U.S terriost acusations

[Hardhat]

Is the US taking this too far, we hear everyday that we/they are. However this is mostly from the liberal media this is a case that recently happened, and yes it is from a liberal source

I ask you to be as unbiased as posible

terriost aligations

Yes, certain organizations are taking stuff like that a bit too far, however, he could have very well of been up to something. Although what happened to him was extreme, it is good to see that the government isn't simply letting stuff fly.

One thing that should be noted is if he wasn't against the US at first, he probably is now.

[EnragedSephiroth]

Well that sucked for him. How come the U.S. did feel like they did not have to notify Canada if they sent one of their citizens to be tortured? Irresponsibility is a good word. No one accompanying him ever thought "hmm maybe it would be proper or not raise questions if we notified his government..." Again... how do these people have a job?

[Hardhat]

i think the reason is because, the lesser the amount of publicty the bush administration recevies on this kind of thing the better

[cellardoor6]

At 10/20/06 06:27 AM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Well that sucked for him. How come the U.S. did feel like they did not have to notify Canada if they sent one of their citizens to be tortured?

Well it seems that Canadian officials are the reason that this man was captured. According to the article:

The Canadian inquiry found the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 2002 wrongly described Arar to American law enforcement officials as "an Islamic extremist suspected of being linked to the al-Qaida terrorist network."

But what I think is weird is that Syria cooperates with the US and has the responsibility in some cases of interogating suspects of terrorism against the US. This is all while Syria politically is very opposed to the War on Terror and even critical of US imprisoning Muslims in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

It doesn't make sense to me that Syria would assist the US, let alone torture a fellow Muslim in order to extract information that would assist the US, who Syria is very critical of.

[EnragedSephiroth]

At 10/20/06 06:42 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Well it seems that Canadian officials are the reason that this man was captured. According to the article

Ah, right you are.

But what I think is weird is that Syria cooperates with the US

... that's just weird. Why is the U.S. letting Syria do its dirty work? That's like China sending a S. Korean to N. Korea... wtf... *is boggled again* damn I'm sleepy -.- later.

[Elfer]

At 10/20/06 07:38 AM, EnragedSephiroth wrote:

But what I think is weird is that Syria cooperates with the US

... that's just weird. Why is the U.S. letting Syria do its dirty work? That's like China sending a S. Korean to N. Korea... wtf... *is boggled again* damn I'm sleepy -.- later.

Because the US signed a bunch of international treaties saying that they wouldn't torture people, so they just outsource it.

[JakeHero]

Canada didn't cooperate with us after 9/11, so why should we notify them for anything?

[Altarus]

At 10/20/06 06:42 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: It doesn't make sense to me that Syria would assist the US, let alone torture a fellow Muslim in order to extract information that would assist the US, who Syria is very critical of.

First off, Syria tortures fellow Muslims all the time. Syria basically did no special favor to the US by torturing Arar.

The reason Syria accepted him is because Arar was a wanted man in Syria. He did not server the military there, and he was under suspicion there of being part of a banned organization. During his torture, they asked him mostly about the crimes that they thought he committed there and very little about his crimes against America.

Toward the very end of his time in Syria, they basically tortured an admission out of him that he had visited a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan. The interrogators did not care whether his admission was true or not; all they wanted was a signed admission from him. In that sense, Syria did NOT help the US. If the US wanted Syria to torture useful information from him in return for letting Syria ask him about the crimes he committed there, then Syria failed to live up to their agreements. All Syria cared about was punishing him and interrogating him in regard to crimes he committed against Syria, and they gave a half-hearted attempt to fulfill their bargain with the US.

Also, the fact that Syria is critical of Guantanamo Bay is the height of hypocrisy considering their brutality to their own prisoners.