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At 11/6/06 10:50 PM, EternalRabbit wrote: is walking up to someone and killing them wrong?

you decide

no, any other questions?

Initial propoganda states that life begins at conception, the life of a pre-determined automated cell construction known as a fetus, not a human. To remove it is the "murder" of tissue.

If it's illegal to "murder tissue" then you can say goodbye to modern medicine practice and hello contradictions.

At 11/7/06 12:59 AM, Jose wrote:

Just because the leadership put in a law that states that homicide of a pregnant woman is a double murder, does not make it true.

I can douse my opinion on everything too.

I actually believe that third term abortion is wrong and should be never used.

Isn't that nice.

But first and second term is A-OK in my books. The fetus has not developed a central nervous system up until this point, and I wouldn't say that killing the fetus would be any worse than disposing of the sperm or the egg.

That's another way of saying "I don't want to hold any responsibility". Which is exactly what you stand for, and I find it entertaining. Our founding fathers must be very proud indeed.

But congrats on ignoring my first statement, which deals with the PLO theory. Just because it has the potential for life, doesn't mean it is alive.

Even tho it IS alive. Stupid ass.

At 11/7/06 07:51 PM, Techware wrote: Even tho it IS alive. Stupid ass.

OMG!! the grass i just walked all over is alive, wo is me.

At 11/7/06 04:43 PM, plasmasnake1 wrote: bottom line it is the womans body she can choose wat she does with it

But she doesn't have to accept the consequences.

At 11/7/06 08:58 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: But she doesn't have to accept the consequences.

and abortion is a happy fun time that everyone looks forward to?

At 11/7/06 09:03 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote: and abortion is a happy fun time that everyone looks forward to?

Yes.

500 women, in my country, THIS YEAR, had their 4th abortion, ON TAX MONEY.

You fuck someone, you rear the kid. It isn't the states fault you fucked up, nor the taxpayer, nor the potential child, but you and your fuckbuddies.

It's like eating cake and not accepting that you'll get fat.

You do something, you pay the penalty.

theres always someone to ruin the party :(

At 11/7/06 09:15 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote: theres always someone to ruin the party :(

You can have all the sex you want.

With the one girl. :P

At 11/7/06 09:18 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote:

At 11/7/06 09:15 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote: theres always someone to ruin the party :(

You can have all the sex you want.

With the one girl. :P

well i meant more the abortion fun as a joke, but yes, those 500 with the 4 and up abortions are ridiculous, but for those who take precautions and end up getting pregnant when they cannot afford to be abortion is sometimes the only way.

At 11/7/06 07:58 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote:

OMG!! the grass i just walked all over is alive, wo is me.

Ironic. You're willing to jump in front of a tractor to save a tree, but when it comes to human life in which you don't want to bare any responsibility, "killing" is A-OK.

*salute*

At 11/7/06 10:44 PM, Techware wrote: Ironic. You're willing to jump in front of a tractor to save a tree, but when it comes to human life in which you don't want to bare any responsibility, "killing" is A-OK.

*salute*

you're a little slow aren't you?

At 11/7/06 10:57 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote:

you're a little slow aren't you?

I'll take that as a sign of "Oh shit, what do I say?".

At 11/7/06 11:16 PM, Techware wrote: I'll take that as a sign of "Oh shit, what do I say?".

no, you should take it as a sign of "oh shit, i can't differentiate between a serious statement and sarcasm"

At 11/8/06 12:29 AM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote:

no, you should take it as a sign of "oh shit, i can't differentiate between a serious statement and sarcasm"

You are a little slow aren't you?

At 11/8/06 12:35 AM, Techware wrote: You are a little slow aren't you?

nevermind, you were 100% right, i hold the life of a blade of grass in higher esteem then a human's life. who was i kidding, you're some sort of genius.

At 11/8/06 12:37 AM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote:

nevermind, you were 100% right, i hold the life of a blade of grass in higher esteem then a human's life. who was i kidding, you're some sort of genius.

Metaphors. Try using realism, it helps wonders.

At 11/7/06 07:51 PM, Techware wrote:

At 11/7/06 12:59 AM, Jose wrote:

Isn't that nice.

It sure is.

That's another way of saying "I don't want to hold any responsibility". Which is exactly what you stand for, and I find it entertaining. Our founding fathers must be very proud indeed.

Its actually another way to say that I believe the early fetus is not alive, but way to attack the straw man.

If they weren't to busy discussing merchantilism and buying slaves, I'm sure my opinion would matter to the founding fathers.

But congrats on ignoring my first statement, which deals with the PLO theory. Just because it has the potential for life, doesn't mean it is alive.

Even tho it IS alive. Stupid ass.

Nice arguement. Make sure you call all acorns oak trees, and all eggs chickens. Potential for life =/= life.

At 11/7/06 07:51 PM, Techware wrote: That's another way of saying "I don't want to hold any responsibility". Which is exactly what you stand for, and I find it entertaining. Our founding fathers must be very proud indeed.

Right our founding fathers who lived in a time where if I child was born into no family or a single mother they were considered outcasts of society, given no respect or even a passing glance and normally left to die. Mabye you might mean the founding fathers you considered slaves 3/4 of a person. Then again you may mean the founding fathers that you got in some storybook colored in crayons with bright colors and birds flying in the sky where everyone is happy.

At 11/7/06 09:07 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: Yes.

500 women, in my country, THIS YEAR, had their 4th abortion, ON TAX MONEY.

You fuck someone, you rear the kid. It isn't the states fault you fucked up, nor the taxpayer, nor the potential child, but you and your fuckbuddies.

It's like eating cake and not accepting that you'll get fat.

You do something, you pay the penalty.

500 out of how many women total who had abortions? You sound like you're pissy at a small minority of women who have multiple abortions on your tax dollar (which, let's face it, is cheaper than your tax dollar going to supporting the resulting child had the woman chosen to have the child), and you also sound like someone who truly doesn't give a shit about children.

At 11/8/06 12:50 AM, Techware wrote: Metaphors. Try using realism, it helps wonders.

It also helps to consider scientific facts and not the pride of some fat old assholes.

"I know for a fact that fetuses aren't humans at these stages in which most abortions are done."
"Yeah well... BUT, George Washington thinks otherwise."

Seriously, what the hell kind of logic is that?

The last thing you're entitled to is realism.

I think abortion is right, but I don't think there should be laws regulating abortion. That gives the government way too much power, and is wrong as well.

At 11/8/06 12:50 AM, Techware wrote: Metaphors. Try using realism, it helps wonders.

unicorns > metaphors + realism.

At 11/7/06 10:44 PM, Techware wrote:

At 11/7/06 07:58 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote:

OMG!! the grass i just walked all over is alive, wo is me.

Ironic. You're willing to jump in front of a tractor to save a tree, but when it comes to human life in which you don't want to bare any responsibility, "killing" is A-OK.

*salute*

Wow.

That was not only a stupid assumption, but a stupid generalisation.

*salute*

Yes.

I don't want to take responsibility for any human because other humans aren't my concern.

If you intended to say, If a tree were in danger, he'd save it. But if a human were in danger, you wouldn't help them.

Contrary to what you'd expect him to respond arbitrarily, he won't neglect facts just to blurt out "WAIT, THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT". Quite the opposite, it depends on how a human is in danger. A human would have no reason to be inside a pregnant woman. A pregnant woman has a fetus. A human can support itself outside the womb.

At 11/8/06 01:17 PM, Fire wrote: I think abortion is right, but I don't think there should be laws regulating abortion. That gives the government way too much power, and is wrong as well.

I think weapon-ownership is fine, but I don't think there should be laws regulation what kind of high-grade explosives you purchase. That also gives the government too much power.