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At 10/20/06 05:25 PM, Kirstyyy wrote: Typical crazy christian American redneck.

You got it sister.

We Scots know how to deal with our kids.

kill ‘em!

At 10/20/06 05:31 PM, mofomojo wrote: Gotta love Americans, dead fucking stupid. I swear to god, can't communicate, think or do anything worth shit. The average one - that is.

Now, I oppose abortion on the grounds that it's abusing nature... (etc)

Wow, i'm impressed. An actual opinion againast that isn't based upon blind faith and "feeling" and actually based on logic. I applaud you.

Anyway, while i agree that abortions can cause major reproductive problems in the future and it is wrong for people to use the availability of abortions as a back-up plan to not taking proper precautions whilst having sex. I'm completely fine with abortion if it's for a valid reason, not that you accidentaly got pregnant because of a refusal to use a condom.. That's just being careless.. If, however, a condom was used and it split there is still an emergeancy contraceptive (previously named morning after pill) which can help. Abortions, while they should be legal, should not be used as a contraceptive.

At 10/20/06 05:29 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

At 10/20/06 05:25 PM, Kirstyyy wrote: Typical crazy christian American redneck.

You got it sister.

We Scots know how to deal with our kids.

kill ‘em!

Always thought the brits were better at doing it to your kids than you are to your own.

At 10/20/06 05:49 PM, BanditByte wrote: Always thought the brits were better at doing it to your kids than you are to your own.

Nay, the english (we are brits too ya know), just banned our native tongue, and sat back as we created the civilized world. See
Scottish Enlightenment.

Now only 25 percent of Americans are retards, not half. You know, I love being an American. I think we get a bad rep from stupid tourists who come to other countries and act retarded. As for Sctland, I here you , My grandfather was from Northern Ireland.

Abortion is basicly killing and sucking out a fetus right, i see its good for two reasons, one its the persons child, if they want to suck it out let them who the hell are you to say "that child deserves to live mother you dont have a right to bla bla bla im on my period", two is because of stem cells, dont know much except it helps people a lot and it needs unborn fetuses, abortions provides unborn fetuses so abortions would be the lifeblood of many people who would die with out them, thus ends my veiws on abortion

At 10/20/06 06:01 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

At 10/20/06 05:49 PM, BanditByte wrote: Always thought the brits were better at doing it to your kids than you are to your own.

Nay, the english (we are brits too ya know), just banned our native tongue, and sat back as we created the civilized world. See
Scottish Enlightenment.

As an Englishman, I say...

England caused a lot of shit, definitely, but a rather pale comparison to what the Americans are at at present. England? "Rule the world. Can't do that? Ok, fine, whatever." America? "Convert the world. Ok, now dominate the economy. Great, make sure you've got a military foot shoved down everyone's throat... Now police it."

Oh yeah, right, abortion. I contend that this argument isn't really going to go anywhere, considering this has already been debated about 800 billion times on other threads.

At 10/20/06 06:53 PM, xineph wrote: England caused a lot of shit, definitely, but a rather pale comparison to what the Americans are at at present. England? "Rule the world. Can't do that? Ok, fine, whatever."

Well, Britain did actually have the worlds largest empire.

Oh yeah, right, abortion. I contend that this argument isn't really going to go anywhere, considering this has already been debated about 800 billion times on other threads.

I'd have to agree. What seems to happen is that people just don't care what other people opinions upon the matter are and thus the debate becomes pointless. How can you have a debate if noone will concede at the end?

Did them topic change or something, i thought we were talking about Abortion not merry old england who i dont give two craps about unless im actually going into a thread about said country.

At 10/20/06 07:01 PM, Boarean wrote: Did them topic change or something, i thought we were talking about Abortion not merry old england who i dont give two craps about unless im actually going into a thread about said country.

yes, because the topic starter is a useless lump of cells. Britain/England and Scotland is more interesting and informative.

At 10/20/06 06:53 PM, xineph wrote:

England caused a lot of shit, definitely, but a rather pale comparison to what the Americans are at at present. England? "Rule the world. Can't do that? Ok, fine, whatever." America? "Convert the world. Ok, now dominate the economy. Great, make sure you've got a military foot shoved down everyone's throat... Now police it."

Oo, oo, let me sum up everything you just said... "I'm a fucking idiot". Yeah, there we go, must more simple and easily readable now.

At 10/20/06 06:53 PM, xineph wrote: As an Englishman, I say...

England caused a lot of shit, definitely...

I’ve got no beef with England…and I don’t tolerate Scots that do…if we can forgive the Germans for what happened 60 years ago we can forgive the English for what happened 600+ years ago. Yeah, I’m a Scottish Nationalist, but that’s a different kettle of fish.

Back on topic. Abortion is good. Integrity’s a moron.

We've managed to start a debate about Americans, Scottish and the English.

Scotland tbh.

Anyway,

Abortion is good for cases such as Rape, cant handle it etc.

However, I don't think it should be abused for example.. used instead of condoms.

At 10/20/06 07:07 PM, Integrity wrote:

At 10/20/06 06:53 PM, xineph wrote:

England caused a lot of shit, definitely, but a rather pale comparison to what the Americans are at at present. England? "Rule the world. Can't do that? Ok, fine, whatever." America? "Convert the world. Ok, now dominate the economy. Great, make sure you've got a military foot shoved down everyone's throat... Now police it."

Oo, oo, let me sum up everything you just said... "I'm a fucking idiot". Yeah, there we go, must more simple and easily readable now.

Good sir, I admire your debating tactics. No need to follow the conventional rules of "supporting opinions" or "backing up ideas with facts". Of course not, we'd be expecting that! You, my friend, are far above such trivialities. It seems you've already discovered your apparently signature plan of "flinging random crap and insults everywhere without backing it up with any reasons or ideas". You can also carry this school of thinking in to your daily life, with such respectable practices as cutting lines, laughing at disabled people, and kicking people in the balls if you disagree with them. You, my friend, may be well on your way to an esteemed career bagging other people's groceries. I salute your originality.

Abortion is mostly a cruch against which the weak-willed lean.

As for me, I'm saving sex 'til marriage so I never have to worry about some immature liberal woman flushing my son/daughter down the toilet because "she just didn't want it..." Or, at least, that's one reason. There are others, but that's for another thread.

Oh, and don't mess with the US. We're here to stay and all the hateful bile all you anti-american types can spew won't change the fact that we're here and we have things pretty well under control over here. I always hate to hear about how much the world hates us, because ultimately we love the world. We give the most foreign aid of any country and we actually let other countries recover after we win a war rather that dominating them - we're not as imperialisitic as some would paint us to be. Perhaps you think me weak-minded to think this, but that is of no concern to me. All I know is that we do a lot of good in the world, enough to outweigh all the bad we do, but some people will always hate us for dumb reasons. But it don't mean a whole hill of beans to us.

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It is murder and should be illegal, also any woman who chooses abortion wile the father wants to raise the child should be put in prison for killing his child equal rights means that the father gets to choose to if he wants the baby, why is it that she gets to decide weather the child is murders or not and weather he has to pay child support or not, equal rights equal decision . just because she can't keep her legs closed does not give her ultimate power..

It's very difficult to reach a compromise when lives are at stake. I'd go a bit on the pro-life for this one. Abortion most-definitely should NOT be used as a form of contraception. If you got knocked up, too damned bad >:/

A woman should only have the last option of abortion if her life is at stake, the child's life is at stake (born a vegetable) or it was an act of rape.

I definatly agree, I am expecting my child soon, and me being so young my gf and I were told to concider abortion. We said hell no!

Listen, if you want to stop abortion, then stop having sex left and right. That way, you don't make alot of people pregnant and wanting an abortion. Or, try to avoid getting raped.

At 10/21/06 04:50 AM, ForcedDj wrote: Listen, if you want to stop abortion, then stop having sex left and right. That way, you don't make alot of people pregnant and wanting an abortion. Or, try to avoid getting raped.

You can't "avoid" getting raped.

At 10/21/06 03:22 AM, troubles1 wrote: It is murder and should be illegal, also any woman who chooses abortion wile the father wants to raise the child should be put in prison for killing his child equal rights means that the father gets to choose to if he wants the baby, why is it that she gets to decide weather the child is murders or not and weather he has to pay child support or not, equal rights equal decision . just because she can't keep her legs closed does not give her ultimate power..

This is reeeeeally simple minded. Try your "can't keep her legs closed argument on a rape victim".

www.dictionary.com says...
mur'der /Èm\rdYr/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mur-der] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. Law. the killing of another human being

There you go. Fetuses are not human, although they may one day have the potential to be. Therefor, abortion is not murder. Glad I could help.

At 10/21/06 10:56 AM, Kirstyyy wrote: You can't "avoid" getting raped.

Sure you can. You can avoid rape by not walking down dark-alleys and wearing slutty clothing.

At 10/21/06 11:19 AM, xineph wrote:

There you go. Fetuses are not human, although they may one day have the potential to be. Therefor, abortion is not murder. Glad I could help.

And yet, if someone were to kill a pregnant woman no matter what stage that fetus be in it counts as a double murder, which is where your pathetic excuse of an arguement falls apart and why I consider people like you to be complete fucking morons.

Glad I could help.

At 10/21/06 11:53 AM, Integrity wrote:

At 10/21/06 11:19 AM, xineph wrote:

There you go. Fetuses are not human, although they may one day have the potential to be. Therefor, abortion is not murder. Glad I could help.

And yet, if someone were to kill a pregnant woman no matter what stage that fetus be in it counts as a double murder

How, precisely, is this relevant? If we were having an argument about Evolution and I were a supporter, this would be the equivalent of you saying "schools teach evolution, so this discussion is over"... We're not talking about what the government considers to be legally acceptable, this is a discussion as to what the people here think is morally right. If you're argument for abortion is "The Government Thinks it's Wrong" then you're either incredibly weak-minded or perhaps just stupid. Work on that defense -_-

At 10/21/06 11:19 AM, xineph wrote:

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1. Law. the killing of another human being

There you go. Fetuses are not human, although they may one day have the potential to be. Therefor, abortion is not murder. Glad I could help.

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Seriously my guy, this topic was over opinions people have on abortion, I am against it, and I want to say, that even in instances of rape the child should be put up for adoption, But it is very touchy... if my wife was raped, I don't know how I would react, So in that case, it is entirely the woman's choice, And how strong she is, because my own Ideals may not be strong enough to keep the child in that instance. But I still feel that life begins at conception and thus it is murder to kill an unborn child.

At 10/21/06 03:22 AM, troubles1 wrote: It is murder and should be illegal, also any woman who chooses abortion wile the father wants to raise the child should be put in prison for killing his child equal rights means that the father gets to choose to if he wants the baby, why is it that she gets to decide weather the child is murders or not and weather he has to pay child support or not, equal rights equal decision .

Hmm, might have something to do with the fact the woman has to carry the foetus is her body for the better part of a year while the man has to do jack shit.

just because she can't keep her legs closed does not give her ultimate power..

Equal rights, equal decision, but not equal responsibility?

You fucking hypocrite.

If a fetus is a human then you must classify an acorn as an oak tree.

At 10/22/06 01:25 AM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

just because she can't keep her legs closed does not give her ultimate power..

Equal rights, equal decision, but not equal responsibility?

You fucking hypocrite.

You continue to amaze me with your ignorance , How is what I say being hypocritical? My opinion is this although I am against Abortion I am for Equal rights, So until the day ROE vs WADE is overturned. Then the Father should have the same power as the woman. If he does not want the child ,she does and keeps it HE should not have to pay child support, Because it is his body and he wanted to destroy his sperm witch is his property and fertilized the egg. like wise if he wants the baby she should give birth and then assume no responsibility financially for his child. Because as it is, the woman gets to hold the power over his life ,