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At 10/20/06 02:29 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

to pull out now we’d be fucking up the country even more than we already have done.

As if their country wasn't fucked up before we got there. But, whatever you say.

But basically from what I recieve from this topic is... "We can't handle it". You know, the good ol' hippy stance.

At 10/20/06 05:05 PM, Integrity wrote: As if their country wasn't fucked up before we got there. But, whatever you say.

It had a functioning economy. It’s people for the most part were safe. Al Qaeda didn’t have a foothold there…yeah, it was pretty damn stable.

Sure, it had a evil dictator. But so do many other countries, some of them we call allies.

At 10/19/06 04:01 PM, BanditByte wrote: Anyone who says people started hating us because of the Iraqi War is delusional or trying to push an agenda.

Wrong. In my country, we used to like USA when Clinton was in charge.. Then Bush came and started these wars.. Everybody fucking hates USA now..

Damn Americans.. >:(

It had a functioning economy.

Pfff. It had a piss poor economy.

It’s people for the most part were safe.

Provided you pledged undying loyalty to Saddam and did not voice your opinions or beliefs in any ways contradictory to him. Or provided you weren't a Kurd.

At 10/20/06 05:48 PM, Slat wrote: Wrong. In my country, we used to like USA when Clinton was in charge.. Then Bush came and started these wars.. Everybody fucking hates USA now..

Damn Americans.. >:(

Piss off. No one cares about Turkey anways. Just stay where you are next to Australia and go on with your miserable little life.

;)

I love placating to typical stereotypes of Americans....so much fun!

At 10/20/06 06:01 PM, Imperator wrote: Pfff. It had a piss poor economy.

Piss poor or not. It had a functioning economy.

Provided you pledged undying loyalty to Saddam and did not voice your opinions or beliefs in any ways contradictory to him. Or provided you weren't a Kurd.

As i said, Saddam was an evil bastard. But there's worse than he that our nations refuse to lift a finger to tackle.

And Iraq was stable, it didn't pose a threat to international security, and was an opponent of Osama.

At 10/19/06 07:52 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Besides, there is alot of proof that the elections in palestine were rigged.

Retard. You make shit up entirely to much.

At 10/19/06 01:44 PM, JMHX wrote: Republicans in Washington have deluded themselves for so long into thinking that the battle plan was successful that we now have no good plans, no right choice, no solution.

Yeah right, Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld all know they fucked up royally, it doesnt take a genius to figure that out. Chalabi lied out his ass and no one greeted the soldiers with roses or whatever the image was that we thought we would recieve. They know Iraq is a mess, again, you dont need to be a genius.

The reason nothing is done is politics. Just like the same reason you are making this a partisan issue is politics. Bush cant admit he fucked up the planning in Iraq and we need to totally re-evaluate our position in Iraq because that would sink his administration and the Republican party. Just like Democrats have to do nothing but bitch about Iraq because its not their problem and frankly the longer the war drags on, the better it is for them to pitch to Americans.

This shouldnt be a political issue. And it is very sad you are making it one. Our people are dying in Iraq and the big story is the blame game.

It still pisses me off to no end because this shouldnt be a political game. But fine, you wanna check mate the Republicans by placing all the blame on them, be my guest. I refuse to use human lives as pawns in pathetic political games though. Just go ahead and send the scream machine Pelosi to bitch about some shit some more, maybe slip in a few Fuhrer remarks, you are set. Game over.

At 10/19/06 04:01 PM, BanditByte wrote: Anyone who says people started hating us because of the Iraqi War is delusional or trying to push an agenda.

Or not fully retarted. It doesnt take a genius to figure out terrorists now have a bitchload more power, manpower, recruiting tools, and money now than they did in 2002. We created the perfect enviroment for them, anarchy, complete anarchy. That is not an agenda, it is fact.

At 10/19/06 06:54 PM, JMHX wrote: When you take on the mantle of leadership, the buck stops with you when the plans screw up.

Sorry, your party voted for the war pretty heavily, dont push that partisan shit when the Democrats have just as much at fault as the Republicans. They had knowledge we didnt have and sat on it. They had the intelligence Republicans had on going into Iraq and sat on it.

I blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. They did shit about the war and voted it through. Dont point fingers, you got 4 pointing back at you.

At 10/20/06 06:34 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

Or not fully retarted. It doesnt take a genius to figure out terrorists now have a bitchload more power, manpower, recruiting tools, and money now than they did in 2002. We created the perfect enviroment for them, anarchy, complete anarchy. That is not an agenda, it is fact.

You like to use "retarted" too much. Says a lot about your character.

At 10/20/06 03:01 PM, JMHX wrote:

Nobody has taken any steps to liberate Sudan, Venezuela, Syria, Iran, China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia or any of the sub-Saharan African nations.

Why exactly did you say Iran should be liberated? Liberated from what? A democratically elected parliament?

At 10/20/06 06:11 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote: As i said, Saddam was an evil bastard. But there's worse than he that our nations refuse to lift a finger to tackle.

The reason your government refuses to lift a finger against many dictators is due to those dictators doing things in the best interest of America. What your country is infamous for (post WW2) is circumventing democratic processes in some countries because they feel a leader will be in power who doesn't like America and so you're government will decide to try and put a puppet government in power.

At 10/20/06 06:53 PM, neoptolemus wrote:

because they feel a leader will be in power who doesn't like America and so you're government will decide to try and put a puppet government in power.

Yeah! Why didn't we just take over and loot the place?

At 10/20/06 06:49 PM, Integrity wrote: You like to use "retarted" too much. Says a lot about your character.

Whatever retard.

At 10/20/06 06:53 PM, neoptolemus wrote: The reason your government refuses to lift a finger against many dictators is due to those dictators doing things in the best interest of America. What your country is infamous for (post WW2) is circumventing democratic processes in some countries because they feel a leader will be in power who doesn't like America and so you're government will decide to try and put a puppet government in power.

Actually, when I said “our nations” I meant the US and UK. I’m from bonnie Scotland dude.

At 10/20/06 07:04 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

Whatever retard.

Now now, don't pop a blood vessle. What did we talk about concerning your anger? Here's your doll.

At 10/20/06 07:09 PM, Integrity wrote: Now now, don't pop a blood vessle. What did we talk about concerning your anger? Here's your doll.

Do you really want me to post the PM's you angrily sent me about me making fun of you? 1 sec, I am gonna go get them to read them. Heres a new one.

Integrity sent me on 10/16

Keep the hate trolling coming, I love em'. =D

And please, stop calling for phone sex. I don't swing that way.

My favorite part of that message is how you call me a troll. Ironic?!? Heres my favorite exchange, however.

Integrity sent on 9/25

Next time, just fuck off and mind your own damn business jackass. I don't take kindly to idiots and people who insult me and my friends.

FAB0L0US response

Mmmm, fuck off. You brought it on yourself.

Integrity sent on 9/26

haha, I expected as much from a self delluted fucktard like yourself. I see the Education system is failing.

There was another response and reply but they arent nearly as funny.

Integrity, its cute that you are now my internet stalker. It makes me feel happy in pants.

Ahh, that makes me feel sad.

He only ever sent me two….mind you, I did block him….who knows what I’m missing?

At 10/20/06 06:34 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
This shouldnt be a political issue.

I've heard conservatives say this about Foley, Abramoff, DeLay, Iraq, Immigration, etc. etc..

It seems whenever Republicans miscalculate, it is not a political issue.

satop sprading your liberal propaganda jmhx. That 43% only means the terrorist are cared and are finally in the last "throes." It should not be long now before the Iraqis stand up so we can stand down and then they will throw roses at our feet while singing our praise.

At 10/20/06 08:14 PM, JMHX wrote: It seems whenever Republicans miscalculate, it is not a political issue.

Politicize Foley and Abramoff all you want, I will even jump on the bandwagon (and have). Dont politicize an issue where people are getting there asses blown off. Its disgusting and serves no purpose other than to garner votes.

And I really dont see how Republicans have miscalculated on immigration, no one on either side has done jack.

At 10/20/06 07:32 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote: He only ever sent me two….mind you, I did block him….who knows what I’m missing?

Probably lots to make you feel happy in pants.

At 10/20/06 10:29 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 10/20/06 08:14 PM, JMHX wrote:

Dont politicize an issue where people are getting there asses blown off. Its disgusting and serves no purpose other than to garner votes.

Don't politicize the War on Terror or Iraq, well done. 'Republican Party to Air Campaign Ad Warning of Future Terror Attacks if Democrats are Elected'

Yes, I know the Republicans do the same thing which is why I said Bush does nothing to solve the problem. Look at my posts, I am pointing my finger at everyone.

We, as citizens, should not politicize this issue. We need to be smart enough to not point fingers and scream at eachothers faces because that is what our moronic leaders want, polarization that leads to unthinking, angry votes. We need to reject this bullshit our leaders are trying to pull and not sink into the same kinda games they do.

I am against all politicization of Iraq. It is simply to important to point fingers. To many lives are at stake, both American and Iraqi.

Then it may be time to change our strategy .

Of course it is, if it was my choice we would send thousands of more troops to Iraq.

I am unsure if there are actually that many troops available to send to Iraq or if it would solve anything but it seems to me the only thing that would help. I still find it amusing we sent 500,000 troops to Kuwait in 1991 but we only sent 120k something to try and occupy a country. To funny.

At 10/20/06 07:27 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

Integrity, its cute that you are now my internet stalker. It makes me feel happy in pants.

Nah, I just like to read all the topics, and each one you post your stupidity all over it. It's not my fault.

Now now, don't pop a blood vessle.

The delusional adherence to a failed strategy is the first sign that it may be time to change leadership.

At 10/20/06 11:11 PM, Integrity wrote: Now now, don't pop a blood vessle.

Im not sure whats more amusing, the fact you called me a troll not 4 days ago or the fact you think I am angry. Whatever retard.

Wasn't a group put together to pull troops out of Iraq by 2008. I clearly remember FAB0L0US talking about it... I believe ti was him. Such a group to perform such a task would suggest the administration is aware this war will not be won and their best bet would be to do what was done in Bosnia.

Here's the topic http://www.newground../topic.php?id=585041

At 10/21/06 04:34 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:

Im not sure whats more amusing, the fact you called me a troll not 4 days ago or the fact you think I am angry. Whatever retard.

All I do is respond to you in a topic (God forbid *gasp!*). And the best you've given me so far is "retard".

*still wishes that parents had to have breeding liscenses*

At 10/20/06 11:26 PM, JMHX wrote: The delusional adherence to a failed strategy is the first sign that it may be time to change leadership.

Well then do it.

Americans said the same exact thing in 2004, and we elected Bush once again.

Maybe if the Democratic party will get thier shit together, something will happen.

You must also remember, the Democratic party is in now way completely blameless for this thing.