Protesting healthy food

[stafffighter]

I read in todays new york times that ever since chef Jamie Oliver managed to get England to improve their school lunch programs that parents have been in an uproar.
Apparently they dislike Longoners telling them what to do, because health is a status issue now.
The protests center around the fact that children find the healtheir foods less desireable and thus aren't eating them. In a reaction to this a group known as the "meat pie mums" has begun selling junk food to children during lunch times. The name is ironic in that this is not behavior I accosiation with anything resembeling a mother.
I can understand that people are busy but someone with this kind of time on their hands could be encouraging their children to eat healthy. No child wants to eat healthy, it's a symptom of childhood. But responsible parents enforce healthy eating upon us untill we get the point. I personally cannot count the time I spent stareing down green bean hoping to make them dissapear. But they didn't and I ate them because my parents did not yeild to convience. They took responsibility. It's what parents do

[stafffighter]

I read this in an actual newspaper, remember those? so you'll excuse the lateness of linkage

[Fim]

Yeah, on a very personal level, my school don't serve chips anymore.

I suppose it's a good thing, especially with obeseity being the problem that it is, I mean, surley it's irresponsible if people in authority don't do anything to tackle the problem. but on the other hand, we loose our freedom.

I don't like being told what I can and cannot buy, if anything, when something is forbidden that tends to drive me on to try and get it more.

Even now, some kids are selling cans in lessons (pepsi, cola dr pepper and other such banned drinks) and on the feild for hiked prices. People pay because they want them, even though they would get cheaper prices in the shops. It's not good.

I suppose the food we do get isn't too bad, but I dunno.

I don't think banning certian types of food is the answer, I certianly don't like the fact that over 10 years of better food campaigning got nowhere, then when a A list celebrity comes on TV with his views things suddenly dramaticly change. It seems a little unfair.

Phe, we can't change what they've already, I do think obesity is a big issue in today's society, but I don't agree with the methods they have used in trying to tackle the problem. I certianly don't agree with bans, maybe something should be done about the levels of physical education and fitness, in schools instead of the food stuffs.

[stafffighter]

At 10/18/06 01:13 PM, Fim wrote:



I don't think banning certian types of food is the answer, I certianly don't like the fact that over 10 years of better food campaigning got nowhere, then when a A list celebrity comes on TV with his views things suddenly dramaticly change. It seems a little unfair.

Is it a good thing? Then fuck who got it done.

[Kirstyyy]

When children are young parents should encourage them to eat healthy but as they get older its harder to encourage them. Banning foods won't tackle the problem, at the end of the day people either want to eat healthy or they dont. I don't think that obeseity is a Nations problem. Its the individuals.

[Dash-Underscore-Dash]

Rest in peace, Andy Cap's Hot Fries. Rest in peace. :'(

Damn you Baked Lays and Reduced Fat Cheez-Its

[stafffighter]

it's exactly this kind of additude that makes obseity and it's side products an epidemic. If these parents had encouraged healthy eating at home then perhaps what they're fed at school wouldn't be so important. But rather than act like a parent and teach a child to do what's right for themselves these people are activly encouraging working around the system. If you're too busy to play much of an active role it's tragic but people have to eat, in this system what they eat has been elevated. It's fucking health these people are fighting against. And why? Because they can't explain to their children the importance of health over instant gradification? Because they're so proud they can't recognize basic good from outside? Because they that resent the person who made an indisputably good thing happen was a t.v star?
If you can go out in the middle of the day to feed children this crap than your shcedual is free enough to do some fucking parenting.

[Elfer]

At 10/18/06 01:13 PM, Fim wrote: I don't like being told what I can and cannot buy, if anything, when something is forbidden that tends to drive me on to try and get it more.

If you were running a restaurant, would you want other people telling you that you MUST serve something?

It's still available to you for purchase, just not at that location.

[UndeadTemplar88]

Aren't these "moms" part of some capitalistic plot that wants to regain their money from the sales of junk food to little children....money-globbering bastards

[stafffighter]

At 10/18/06 09:48 PM, Elfer wrote:
If you were running a restaurant, would you want other people telling you that you MUST serve something?

A restaurant is a private business, public institutions like schools have to be regulated.

[EnragedSephiroth]

Tell em' Staff. Since when do parents encourage kids to eat junk food? Of course the kids are not going to want to eat healthy. Maybe 1/1000 children cares about the food's nutritional content, all the rest care about is the taste and junk food just so happens to be made on that principle: taste not nutritional content!

Why are the mothers surprised their kids don't want to eat healthy? Are these those kinds of mothers who appear on talk shows with fat-ass kids who are at risk of heart-disease yet they can't feed them healthy because the kid doesn't want to eat healthy and the parents actually conform? WTF is that? Since when do the children order the parents around? I'm seriously going to go get a paddle and give all them little whiny bastards and their irresponsible mothers what fer!

[Elfer]

At 10/18/06 10:04 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 10/18/06 09:48 PM, Elfer wrote:
If you were running a restaurant, would you want other people telling you that you MUST serve something?

A restaurant is a private business, public institutions like schools have to be regulated.

Public institutions like schools often use private contracted companies to run the food services within the school.

For example, here, the most prolific food service company for schools in the region is "Brown's Fine Foods"

They serve a wide variety of cardboard, grease, and combinations of the two in order to make sure kids get a well-balanced meal. Technically the school is in charge of the conditions of the contract, but you can rig up zany legal loopholes this way saying that the company is responsible for any restrictions that you want to impose, but you just signed with that company because they were the most viable option available.

[EnragedSephiroth]

At 10/18/06 10:08 PM, Elfer wrote: For example, here, the most prolific food service company for schools in the region is "Brown's Fine Foods"

Brown? Sounds like a combination of poo and grease if you ask me :/

[Elfer]

At 10/18/06 10:15 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote:

At 10/18/06 10:08 PM, Elfer wrote: For example, here, the most prolific food service company for schools in the region is "Brown's Fine Foods"

Brown? Sounds like a combination of poo and grease if you ask me :/

Tastes like a combination of poo and grease if you ask me.

[hongkongexpress]

yea unhealthy food should be a choice. I don't want some food facist hippy to scream at me that I'm eating meat or unheathy food that an animal had to die yadda yadda yaddda. Like who is that person to tell me what I can and can't put into my own body?

[Bmage2290]

At 10/18/06 11:27 PM, hongkongexpress wrote: yea unhealthy food should be a choice. I don't want some food facist hippy to scream at me that I'm eating meat or unheathy food that an animal had to die yadda yadda yaddda. Like who is that person to tell me what I can and can't put into my own body?

Sounts like you're getting vegetarianism/unhealthy choices combined.

Anyways.. as most of you know already.. most "good food" is high fat... some scientific study awhile back has shown that our tastebuds have changed and enjoy the taste of fat. This reason alone is why many people don't like "low fat or low calorie" items.. Fat adds flavor, moistness, and tenderness to the product.

As for the school.. I personally believe it is a good thing.. after hearing about the butter & french fry sandwich >.< Heart attack here we come... I believe they could still offer burgers and french fries.. maybe a meat/soy combo for the burgers and bake the fries, but baking wouldn't taste as good.. but is significantly healthier .. (once again.. tastes gross.. but it's because it isn't fried in high calorie/fat oils). Obesity is becoming a national issue because so many people don't know what some foods can do to you and the harmful sideproducts (Preservatives, flavor enhancers, ect) that come in many daily items. Over time these can cause bodily damage, either to your arteries, or digestive tract.. there are some out there that cause damage to the liver and kidneys too.. but most of those products were removed a while back. I think :-\

Eating healthy should be strongly encouraged in children and teens.. expecially about how unhealthy the average big-mac combo or double wopper combo is. High sodium, high fat (mostly saturated last observed), low dietary fiber... these things that are normally ignored should be enforced so that they may make healthier decisions when they are younger and not wait till it's too late.

I know my school banned all pop and candy machines and replaced them with juice machines.. and not the 10% juice kind.. real juice! Some people had a awkward time adjusting.. but it is definatly better than all the sugars from pops. As for the meal.. our school had to provide a certain lvl of callories/fat per meal.. since some of teh students were on a reduced/free income meal, and sometimes that was teh only meal they had for the day.

Everyone needs to be encouraged to eat healthy.. if they don't want to eat it.. then they don't have to... they can sit through lunch and wait till schools out to get some food. But public schools should try and create a healthier lifestyle for kids/teens, and while it may not be popular with the individual, it will definatly be better for them in teh longrun.

[fli]

At 10/19/06 03:09 AM, Bmage2290 wrote: most "good food" is high fat... some scientific study awhile back has shown that our tastebuds have changed and enjoy the taste of fat. This reason alone is why many people don't like "low fat or low calorie" items.. Fat adds flavor, moistness, and tenderness to the product.

We could provide healthy fatty alternatives...
Avocados are particularily yummy.

So are nuts.

[Steel-Reserve]

You know what's good? Mushrooms, in a grilled cheese sandwich. I must eat about eighty mushrooms a week. They're disgusting otherwise, but, in a grilled cheese sandwich, or an omlette, they're pretty sweet.

[Bmage2290]

At 10/19/06 04:18 AM, fli wrote: We could provide healthy fatty alternatives...
Avocados are particularily yummy.

So are nuts.

Yep.. most vegetables contain Unsaturated fats.. thats what is considered "the good kind" of fat. They've been shown to reduce chlorestoral lvls. It's saturated fats you need to look out for.. they're not beneficial to your body the same way as unsaturated are.

And Yes.. Avocados are great, expecially in guacamole :D
Viva la unsaturated fats!

[stafffighter]

At 10/20/06 02:18 AM, Bmage2290 wrote:

Viva la unsaturated fats!

Slap that on a t shirt and these dumbass schoolkids will finally get with the program.

[Jesus-made-me-do-it]

I think if people want to be a fat bastard let them. But they must suffer the consequences

[psycho-squirrel]

At 10/18/06 12:42 PM, stafffighter wrote: They took responsibility. It's what parents do

not in america they dont. here many parents want the government to solve all their problems when they can solve them themselves.

[EternalRabbit]

i know that alot of schools in canada and the uk do not have any vending machines for chips and other junk food. rather they replaced them with fruit drink vendors and healthy stuff. it is good, due to the obesity and all that is going on, but this is the first time i've heard of reactionaries to the idea...

[Timfro]

A solution could be just to jack up the price of all the unhealthy foods. That way they still sell them but at twice the prive of the healthier alternaties. Whatever is cheaper is always pretty attractive.

[Sensationalism]

At 10/19/06 03:09 AM, Bmage2290 wrote:

At 10/18/06 11:27 PM, hongkongexpress wrote: words...

Anyways.. as most of you know already.. most "good food" is high fat... some scientific study awhile back has shown that our tastebuds have changed and enjoy the taste of fat. This reason alone is why many people don't like "low fat or low calorie" items.. Fat adds flavor, moistness, and tenderness to the product.

Wow....so does that make me a freak then? Oh well.

I think it's great that these schools have healthier options. Though I'm pretty sure vendos filled with sweets probably are healthier than the goo schools usually serve. It is really hard to get the healthy food into schools in the first place. And then once it's there, hardly anyone eats it. Maybe if healthy food was always served at school and parents controlled their children, we wouldn't have such a problem. Now, I could have made some good points in my post. I also could have made myself sound like the complete idiot I am because I need sleep. Either way, my post ends here.

[Me-Patch]

We should have nothing but health food in schools. Most kids don't eat healthy at home and the ones that do probably don't mind, if you want crap that badly bring your own. Schools are supposed to protect kids not kill them.

[Sensationalism]

At 11/7/06 07:17 AM, Me-Patch wrote: We should have nothing but health food in schools. Most kids don't eat healthy at home and the ones that do probably don't mind, if you want crap that badly bring your own. Schools are supposed to protect kids not kill them.

Agree 100%

[VigilanteNighthawk]

At 11/7/06 07:17 AM, Me-Patch wrote: We should have nothing but health food in schools. Most kids don't eat healthy at home and the ones that do probably don't mind, if you want crap that badly bring your own. Schools are supposed to protect kids not kill them.

I agree with you completely. It's not like they are banning the food outright. You want it, bring it in and shut up. With all the shit going on in the world, this is what brings people out? Jesus freaking christ.

[LightMemories]

So now u don't want healthy food?