Reason vs. FL

[slowz]

Im new to the audio section, so im sorry if this has been posted before. But what program does everyone like more, Reason or FL? Ive looked into Reason and getting some leasons with it, it seems really really easy. Then I tryed FL whithout leasons, because everyone said it was easy, although it wasnt for me.

So, I just wanted to know what everyone likes more, and why. Like the layout, the choices, everything. Becuase I need to buy a copy of either one...

[Sto0g3]

Everyone has different preferences and idiosyncracies, I advise you to have a look at the software and see what works best for you.

In my experience (i got a cert 3 in audio engineering), FL is more for home use and Reason for professional application (cause its good for linking with other applications like protools).
I used to think FL was sorta like a toy and you could only make cheesy techno with it- though my friend Stryder5000 does incredible stuff with it- and he prefers it to Reason because of the interface and whatnot.

This question has been asked quite a bit, though not directly like this one it has been asked.

FL can basically do everything Reason can do but both have their positives and negatives. So I would recommend looking into both of them and finding out what you prefer to use because that is basically what it boils down to.

If you want a more elaborate explanation of the 2 just wait for Chronamut, I'm pretty sure he will drop by later =)

[Rucklo]

At 10/18/06 03:49 AM, Sto0g3 wrote: Everyone has different preferences and idiosyncracies, I advise you to have a look at the software and see what works best for you.

true

In my experience (i got a cert 3 in audio engineering), FL is more for home use and Reason for professional application (cause its good for linking with other applications like protools).
I used to think FL was sorta like a toy and you could only make cheesy techno with it- though my friend Stryder5000 does incredible stuff with it- and he prefers it to Reason because of the interface and whatnot.

You can do whatever you want to with FL, because it can handle VST and samples, wich really makes it up to you as an artist if the stuff is good or not.

Major difference is that reason iss a "closed" program, it does not have VST support. This also makes it less CPU consuming. Whatever is in reason however, are reasonably (lol, reason-joke) good, and for a newbie this is more then enough to keep mr. newbie busy for a while!

This also depend on what production you are considering, I never actaully used FL myself, but I do belive you can record straight into the program. In reason, you cannot.

Why is reason preffered by some then?

CPU frineldy, like stated, its easy to use, it have a "rack" that shows all virtual gears you are using, and you can flip this rack so you can connect things how the hell you want to (in most other DAW´s you can do this too, but in reason its very visual and easy to understand).

You can re-wire reason to many other DAW´s (Digital Audio Workstation), and use reason as a slave, meaning you wont have to sample out that synth if you dont want to.

Since reason is CPU frienldy, you can pop it into a laptop and without difficulties carry your "studioo" with you and whenever inspioration is there, you have reason ready to roll. FL would e getting slower, depending on what VST´s you ar e using, of course.

Personally I use reason and Cubase, since im fairly new to cubase, reason is the choise fpor me when i want to do something fast. But hten ive worked in reason for a while.

Also, use the searchbar at the bottom and search for other threads like this. There have been plenty, and this isn´t the last one...

[Khuskan]

It's a bit of a misconception that FL is automatically able to do more simply because it supports VSTs. The problem with that is that you need to get decent VST sets... and on a tight budget, thats near impossible; not to mention the huge ammounts of disk space they take. If you compare the Reason package with the FL default VST sets, Reason wins hands down.

I also prefer Reason because it's a much nicer interface for me. As a music technology student, the wiring and seqencer are perfect for me - thounh I have heard from some that FL is very easy to pick up, as it isnt as much based on classicle music theory.

Still, if you want to get into VST development, I'd suggest Cubase - it has a nuch better interface than FL and a much more friendly VST system.

[Kirizzle]

N0o0o0o0o! Not another one of these threads... okay, here's the run down:

- FL has VSTi support but Reason does not.
- The FL sequencer is better composition-wise but Reason's is more tidy.
- It's easier to automate in Reason than in FL because of the tidy sequencer.
- Reason is better for DNB and FL is better for Techno and Trance.
- FL is CPU heavy but Reason is not.
- Reason is more pretty and colorful ^_^
- People say Reason has superior mastering tools but it really doesn't seem like it, I'd say they are on equal ground with FL's mastering tools.
- Reason has a hardware interface so it's usually pretty easy to figure out stuff works and where to put wires and whatnot. FL does not have a hardware interface, and because of that you'll find yourself reading lots of tutorials just to find some random shit.
- Penis.

And so... I think that's about it. Best thing for you to do is to try out the FL6 and R3 demos and see which one you like more.

[SpamWarrior]

I'm just posting cos i want some attention :P

Both are good, and to say that FL is more of a home based app is silly. I've yet to hear of a signed artist that uses reason exclusively, yet dizzee rascal and gorillaz have used FL before.

Khuskans right on the value for money and the ease of use, when it comes to being similar to a real hardware setup.

BUT reason isnt FAST to use unless you already know what you're doing when it comes to composing, using basic waves, virtual analogue and warped digital samples.

BUT you basically build your own vst and can get a much more organic feeling sound out of reason, easier.

In conclusion.

a true musician can play any instrument to its top standard and a good standard, if given an appropriate time to experiment with it.

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BOLLOCKS TO THIS THREAD AND OTHERS LIKE IT, WHY CANT PEOPLE LEARN THE SEARCH FUNCTION.

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next time people ask the reason/FL question i'm going to bookmark their audio page and 0 the lazy/inept sods until they cry. And then some.

[seel]

I have never used reason, and you're not the only one who won't understand FL.. -.-' I could only make standard 8 "frame" loops and the midi things didn't work.. So i bought notation software and a midi to mp3 converter.

[PERVOK]

At 10/18/06 10:44 AM, Kirizzle wrote: - Penis.

You make me proud :')

[Crumble-Onuts]

I've always used Reason, although I'd like to try out FL sometime. I just wouldn't want to have to learn a whole other program, though. Therefore I am scared.

And I think the main reason (haha) Reason doesn't support VST is for security reasons; I'm pretty sure I've read that somewhere. It's kind of a let-down, but Reason can use other programs that can. That almost makes up for it.

My only real complaint with Reason is that you can't record anything with a mic directly into the program. But these things are a small price to pay for the quality the rest of the program offers. :)

[Glib]

I object. Reason is more superior in many ways. I don't agree with what Kirizzle stated.

Reason is better for DNB and FL is better for Trance and Techno.

NOT.

Reason is great with producing any genre of music. To film music, classical music etc. (it has a enormous orchestral soundbank). A program can't be better for producing a certain genre. A producer on NG called RemedyX, his new trance productions are better than any Techno/Trance song on NG I've ever heard (produced with FL). Take Tome89 for example. He's a Reason user. His trance has amazing sound quality. My opinion is that you can get the more "proffesional" sounding synths, fx and percussion with Reason. Myself, I am a dedicated Propellerhead. I don't produce trance or techno. I produce IDM/Jungle, but I was around in the 90's. :D

Anyways, the answer for this whole topic is "THERE IS NO BETTER PROGRAM". It just comes down to what program you feel better with.

Btw, if you search Reason vs. Fl. I'm sure you'll get 10 pages of topics like this. There is no need to reply anymore, unless you disagree with me.

[cornandbeans]

eh.

I prefer FL. I use VSTs mainly for synths, but I also use a lot of soundfonts. Soundfonts are great for emulating acoustic instruments. I have no idea whether or not reason has sf support... eh. Also, I think that reason has a terrible piano roll. No offense to propellerhead, but I've had better control of my notes on freeware midi sequencers.

plus FL studio takes out most of the boring tedious stuff. Which is nice, because when I get a melody down in my head, it doesn't stay there for long.

[Para-Noid]

Reason is much better but FL is simple and for the beginners. But I still use Fruity Loops.

[extractor]

At 10/18/06 05:50 PM, Para-Noid wrote: Reason is much better but FL is simple and for the beginners. But I still use Fruity Loops.

i never used reason i work on f l about 4-5 years with "huge" breaks ,
and after that period of time i can say that ...
U CAN MAKE ANY MUSIC GENRE with f l all depends on ur imagination & ofc ur sample directory ;)
anyway i learned workin on fruity about year or so , also with breaks
now i can make almost everythin with it !
i never try'd to use real vocal on tracks im workin on it now ;)
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Back to ur quote it maked me rotfl really ... fl is for beginners ?
u are 110 % WRONG on this one ... lal ;D

[Para-Noid]

At 10/18/06 07:42 PM, extractor wrote:

At 10/18/06 05:50 PM, Para-Noid wrote:

Back to ur quote it maked me rotfl really ... fl is for beginners ?
u are 110 % WRONG on this one ... lal ;D

Have you ever seen I popular or lets say signed artist use Fruity Loops 100% of the time. Let me tell you I haven't. I mostly see stuff like Reason 3.0...ect more pricey things then fruity loops because its for experts and fruity loops it for the starters.

[DavidOrr]

Back to ur quote it maked me rotfl really ... fl is for beginners ?
u are 110 % WRONG on this one ... lal ;D

To help reitterate what Para-noid just said, FL is geared towards beginners or semi-professional musicians. The fact is, using a combination such as Reason and Cubase, or Reason and Sonar, or Project 5 and Sonar is going to yield much higher quality results than anything FL can do. FL can do a lot of things for the price, but it can't compete with the higher-end sequencers and DAW.

It seems that these topics pop up many times, and the same thing is said. Perhaps you can use the search feature to get even more opinions.

[Sto0g3]

Yeah, if there is ONE thing this forum has, it's loads of opinions.

>:(

[Kirizzle]

At 10/18/06 10:37 PM, Sto0g3 wrote: Yeah, if there is ONE thing this forum has, it's loads of opinions.

...and cock jokes.