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Response to Anime Club Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 07:10 PM Reply

At 1/14/14 06:33 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Matt's absolutely right. There are a great many animes these days that have very good dubs. Definitely more than one out of ten. And things are indeed lost in translation even if you're watching it subbed. I find people who refuse to watch dubs to be annoying. Worse, though, is people who can't watch anything subtitled. I remember going to see Pan's Labyrinth and a bunch of people walked out of the theater when they realized they had to read. God forbid, right? If you're like that, I don't like you.

I'm with you on this one, especially on the last part.

Guess people are just illiterate (I know I'm throwing that term liberally but still, kinda had this problem with these kind of people ever since I read that YT comment years ago where one guy said he's glad Harry Potter movies were made so he won't have to read it).


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 08:19 PM Reply

At 1/14/14 07:10 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 1/14/14 06:33 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
Guess people are just illiterate (I know I'm throwing that term liberally but still, kinda had this problem with these kind of people ever since I read that YT comment years ago where one guy said he's glad Harry Potter movies were made so he won't have to read it).

well books take a lot longer to go through than films so i think that's reasonable, i always go for the film version.

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 09:26 PM Reply

At 1/14/14 07:10 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 1/14/14 06:33 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Matt's absolutely right. There are a great many animes these days that have very good dubs. Definitely more than one out of ten. And things are indeed lost in translation even if you're watching it subbed. I find people who refuse to watch dubs to be annoying. Worse, though, is people who can't watch anything subtitled. I remember going to see Pan's Labyrinth and a bunch of people walked out of the theater when they realized they had to read. God forbid, right? If you're like that, I don't like you.

That's honestly shocking to see, but not surprising. As much as I try to remain neutral on all this sub vs dub debates, I just can't imagine anyone watching the Japanese audio without subtitles unless they have a decent mastery of the Japanese language and all of the inflections and cultural stuff that most people don't know about.

It is also worth noting that dubs today were far better in terms of quality and VAs than it was in the 90s, (which is partly why anime like Akira got a re-dub) and in turn, the 90s dub were better than anything before it, though not by much. There is a good reason why Funimation are well liked and respected within the anime community both here and in Japan, they are able to listen to their fans and generally hire excellent VAs for most of their anime.

I might be paraphrasing the quote, but Johnny Yong Bosch stated that "we are voice actors, not voice intimidators." That's pretty much the whole point of dubbed anime in the first place.

Guess people are just illiterate (I know I'm throwing that term liberally but still, kinda had this problem with these kind of people ever since I read that YT comment years ago where one guy said he's glad Harry Potter movies were made so he won't have to read it).

Part of them may be truly illiterate, but I would say that most of them are just that fucking lazy if they can't bother to read subtitles. Not every foreign movie or show will have a shot-for-shot remake with an English dub, so if you like foreign movies that aren't in English, better learn to watch with subtitles or you're SOL.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 10:26 PM Reply

At 1/14/14 08:19 PM, DeIirium wrote:

well books take a lot longer to go through than films so i think that's reasonable, i always go for the film version.

Thus missing out what the movie would change or left out.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 16th, 2014 @ 09:30 PM Reply

Just started Kill la Kill. Holy shit its like FLCL all over again and thats a good thing


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 17th, 2014 @ 01:52 AM Reply

Will Watamote get a second season? Is Sword Art Online getting a second season, too? These questions keep me awake.

Will Outlaw Star get a sec....

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 17th, 2014 @ 02:31 AM Reply

At 1/17/14 01:52 AM, Ronald-McDonald-LoL wrote: Is Sword Art Online getting a second season, too?

The only one of the anime you listed that has been confirmed for S2 so far, but Watamote could get one eventually. The real issue is whether Binbougami Ga and PSG will ever get second seasons.

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 17th, 2014 @ 10:56 AM Reply

At 1/17/14 01:52 AM, Ronald-McDonald-LoL wrote: Will Watamote get a second season? Is Sword Art Online getting a second season, too? These questions keep me awake.
Will Outlaw Star get a sec....

Watamote manga is ongoing so there's a shot that it will at least get an OVA release later on.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 19th, 2014 @ 11:43 AM Reply

Hey everybody. Been a long time (I think) since I dropped by here. How are things?

Also just wanted to see if anyone remembers me at all.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 23rd, 2014 @ 08:14 PM Reply

The other night, I logged into netflix and gave Attack on Titan a chance. I'd heard it was great, but other than that, I knew absolutely nothing about it, not even what the general plot was about. I'm glad I gave it a chance. I marathoned the first season, it was pretty good. I really liked the characters.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 12:21 AM Reply

I would watch attack on titan, but there's no English dub. I don't watch anime that isn't dubbed, i've only made an acception for Tokyo godfathers.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 01:41 AM Reply

At 1/25/14 12:21 AM, sweet21 wrote: I don't watch anime that isn't dubbed

...why?


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 03:49 AM Reply

At 1/25/14 12:21 AM, sweet21 wrote: I would watch attack on titan, but there's no English dub. I don't watch anime that isn't dubbed, i've only made an acception for Tokyo godfathers.

Why are you torturing yourself? Most dubs are terrible and overracted, generally anime movies are fine because of the larger budgets but there are only a handful of series with equal or better English than Japanese voice acting. The only ones that come to mind that are better are Bebop, Baccano and PSG (unless you have a thing for copious amounts of funny engrish).

Haruhi, Monster and Steins;Gate are hit or miss

Also please tell me I'm not the only one in this thread that thinks SnK is average as fuck? I was actually digging the world building and the surprisingly intimidating representation of the titans but it has serious pacing issues, it's too often melodramatic and I occasionally wanted to switch it off because I was cringing so hard at how edgy it was trying to be. I don't have the same complaints as some people about the CG, I thought the animation overall was pretty good but that's mostly what it has going for it. I guess I shouldn't have gone in expecting good writing and characterisation from a shounen but hey FMA and TTGL surprised me so I thought the hype might have been indicative of another exception.

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 08:23 AM Reply

the word "edgy" is thrown around way too much these days and i have a hard time taking people seriously when they use it. i haven't seen the shingeki no kyojin anime but i have read the manga and enjoyed it, it has good tension and interesting twists, and the action scenes are great of course.

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 08:26 AM Reply

There are many good dubs. I just find it weird that you'd so firmly restrict yourself to them and refuse to watch subs. People who insist that you should only watch subs are annoying, though.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 12:21 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 01:41 AM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 1/25/14 12:21 AM, sweet21 wrote: I don't watch anime that isn't dubbed
...why?

He probably didn't want to read the subs.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 12:52 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 03:49 AM, Innermike wrote: Why are you torturing yourself? Most dubs are terrible and overracted

People always say this and I always tell them they're wrong. We've come far from Yu Yu Hakashio. I speak English, I watch my shit in English. I come to watch, not to read.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 01:21 PM Reply

I just don't get people who can't read subtitles. Unless you're drunk, I really don't see the issue.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 01:29 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 01:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I just don't get people who can't read subtitles. Unless you're drunk, I really don't see the issue.

I dont see why you cant handle English voice acting. Man, all we need it Liam O brien and Troy Baker.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 01:47 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 01:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I just don't get people who can't read subtitles. Unless you're drunk, I really don't see the issue.

You know kids these days, hate reading books and all.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 01:52 PM Reply

Limiting yourself to dub or sub is super lame either way.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 02:01 PM Reply

i'm good enough at japanese to watch stuff without subs so i really have no reason to bother with dubs, since there's always something lost in translation.

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 02:05 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 01:29 PM, sweet21 wrote:
At 1/25/14 01:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I just don't get people who can't read subtitles. Unless you're drunk, I really don't see the issue.
I dont see why you cant handle English voice acting.

Look at the post I made before that one.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 02:58 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 02:05 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 1/25/14 01:29 PM, sweet21 wrote:
At 1/25/14 01:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I just don't get people who can't read subtitles. Unless you're drunk, I really don't see the issue.
I dont see why you cant handle English voice acting.
Look at the post I made before that one.

I doubt he'll read it considering that he's likely one of those who prefer dubs so he won't have to read the subtitles. Not to mention how there are people who probably didn't realize that sometimes the dubs also changes the dialogues as well, hate it when that happens.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 03:07 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 02:05 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Look at the post I made before that one.

I did, and look at my response, I said English voice acting isn't bad. Theres only a handful of poorly acted anime and its not even just subjective to anime, everything has a worst case scenario, I dont know why you think the worst case is the only case.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 25th, 2014 @ 03:14 PM Reply

At 1/25/14 03:07 PM, sweet21 wrote:
At 1/25/14 02:05 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Look at the post I made before that one.
I did

If you did, then "I don't understand why you can't handle English voice acting" makes no sense as you would have seen that I said "there are many good dubs" and "People who insist you should only watch subs are annoying".


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 26th, 2014 @ 04:13 AM Reply

At 1/25/14 03:07 PM, sweet21 wrote:
At 1/25/14 02:05 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Look at the post I made before that one.
I did, and look at my response, I said English voice acting isn't bad.

You're being pretty close minded as the retards that only watch subs. There's so much out there that you're missing just because you don't want to read or can't keep up with the text.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 29th, 2014 @ 07:49 PM Reply

I only watch anime in English sub. I'm sorry, but I can't stand dub. It ruins the whole feel of it and plus, some of the English voices sound weird with the characters.


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Response to Anime Club Jan. 30th, 2014 @ 09:32 AM Reply

I only watch anime subbed. I don't have anything aginst dubs, it's just a matter of convenience - for me, finding subs is much, much easier.

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Response to Anime Club Jan. 30th, 2014 @ 11:01 AM Reply

At 1/30/14 09:32 AM, PWJP wrote: I only watch anime subbed. I don't have anything aginst dubs, it's just a matter of convenience - for me, finding subs is much, much easier.

That's understandable, especially if you're looking for something that hasn't been officialy released where you live.


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