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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-21 16:48:50 Reply

At 10/21/10 01:10 AM, KermitTheMuppet wrote:
At 10/21/10 01:09 AM, Gobblemeister wrote:
I rather enjoyed Escaflowne
It had a really interesting plot twists and situations that weren't orthodox to us.

shame it felt a little rushed.

Wasn't it cancelled prematurely?


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-21 20:45:06 Reply

At 10/21/10 04:48 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
Wasn't it cancelled prematurely?

Oh it concluded alright, it finished off pretty well from what I recall.

However, it may have benefited from some more episodes.

I think they just sprung a lot of cool story elements that would have been interesting to see unfold more thoroughly.

The other thing is, it was planned to be longer, and the original director who was involved dropped it before it was revived and revised by another director who would begin the actual production on the show.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-21 23:08:17 Reply

At 10/21/10 08:45 PM, KermitTheMuppet wrote:
At 10/21/10 04:48 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
Wasn't it cancelled prematurely?
Oh it concluded alright, it finished off pretty well from what I recall.

I mean in North America.
I recently read this article which claims Escaflowne was canceled before all the episodes had the chance to air. That may have been US-only, so you may not know about it as your profile says you're in Canada.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 00:02:08 Reply

I am watching Golgo 13.

He is a cool guy.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 00:10:37 Reply

At 10/21/10 11:48 PM, Mendou wrote: It's U.S. only, due to the Fox Kids edit being complete garbage.

That was the same edit used in the rest of the English-speaking world.
It was only cut short in the US for whatever reason.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 01:02:01 Reply

Have you guys watched Highschool of the Dead??

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 13:44:51 Reply

I didn't care much for Escaflowne. The guymalefs were pretty cool, though, and there was some decent action.

At 10/22/10 12:02 AM, RobotTaco wrote: I am watching Golgo 13.

He is a cool guy.

I have the first ten episodes, but I still haven't watched it. The Professional was awesome, so I hope the show is as good.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 13:49:43 Reply

At 10/22/10 01:44 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I have the first ten episodes, but I still haven't watched it. The Professional was awesome, so I hope the show is as good.

Oh, it's pretty good.

I would definitely classify Golgo 13 as a sociopath, if I were a psychiatrist. This guy just doesn't flinch. He's just so chaotic evil.

Still a badass though.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 14:05:24 Reply

At 10/22/10 01:44 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I didn't care much for Escaflowne. The guymalefs were pretty cool, though, and there was some decent action.

At 10/22/10 12:02 AM, RobotTaco wrote: I am watching Golgo 13.

He is a cool guy.
I have the first ten episodes, but I still haven't watched it. The Professional was awesome, so I hope the show is as good.

You should do yourself a favor and see Golgo, you can't go wrong with a violent sociopath assassin that seems to have a lot of references to Christianity. Don't forget to read the manga too.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 22:45:10 Reply

So I borrowed the Cowboy Bebop Sessions collection from my brother. I finished watching the first season. LOVE this series. The animation's top-notch, the music is awesome, and the plot is very interesting (If a little vague). On that note, I'd like to know: Is the movie any good? I've heard it's very good, but other sources say it ruins the whole show.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-22 23:38:31 Reply

At 10/22/10 10:45 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: So I borrowed the Cowboy Bebop Sessions collection from my brother. I finished watching the first season. LOVE this series. The animation's top-notch, the music is awesome, and the plot is very interesting (If a little vague). On that note, I'd like to know: Is the movie any good? I've heard it's very good, but other sources say it ruins the whole show.

I think the film is pretty lame, but I wasn't a huge fan of the show anyway. I only liked maybe 1/4 of the episodes.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-23 08:22:55 Reply

At 10/22/10 10:45 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: Is the movie any good?

It's just another episode really, a bit silly but no other comments really. It can be considered as episode 23.5 of the series anyway. If you like the series you'll like the movie, if you don't like the series you won't like the movie. I thought it was good fun at least.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-23 20:36:02 Reply

I finished watching the second season of Cowboy Bebop.

SPOILERS

As much as I loved this series from beginning to end (Except for the Cowboy Funk episode...that was just bad) I don't feel it had proper closure. I expected Ed and Ein to have an appearance in the final episode and I also expected an ending that explained what happened after Spike died. But here, Spike kills Vicious, falls down stairs and dies, credits roll. That's ok though, because it leaves the possibility of the series return for a third season. It's unlikely, though.

I've decided to skip the movie too, because apparently only the PAL version has the Japanese audio track (English dub is horrible on this series, except for Spike). Can someone confirm this?

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-23 21:00:56 Reply

At 10/23/10 08:36 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: (English dub is horrible on this series, except for Spike).

Are you kidding me?

Cowboy Bebop has one of the best English dubs of an anime series. I found that every one of the main characters, except for Ed, was better in the dub.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-23 22:45:16 Reply

oooookay Then....

^^ Spoilers.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-23 23:05:37 Reply

At 10/23/10 09:00 PM, Aigis wrote: Cowboy Bebop has one of the best English dubs of an anime series. I found that every one of the main characters, except for Ed, was better in the dub.

Spike has a better voice, but everyone else just sounded flat. They hardly had any emotion whatsoever. Plus, the sound effects are different in the english mix.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to watching anime with the Japanese mix.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-23 23:43:18 Reply

At 10/23/10 09:00 PM, Aigis wrote:
Cowboy Bebop has one of the best English dubs of an anime series. I found that every one of the main characters, except for Ed, was better in the dub.

COWBOY BEBOP COWBOY BEBOP COWBOY BEBOP.

A mere fixation, or possibly a SICK, PERVERTED obsession?

I have here, incriminating evidence that Aigis molested "Ed" when he kidnapped her from a convention.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 00:55:44 Reply

At 10/23/10 11:05 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: Spike has a better voice, but everyone else just sounded flat. They hardly had any emotion whatsoever. Plus, the sound effects are different in the english mix.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to watching anime with the Japanese mix.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 04:25:13 Reply

At 10/24/10 12:55 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: ...You're an idiot of the highest fucking caliber...

This, a thousand times this.

The only reason I watch it in Japanese is so I can pick up words and learn them.

Reading subtitles is fucking dumb.

Dubs that are on par with the originals, if not better:
Cromartie High School
Cowboy Bebop
Rurouni Kenshin

asdf


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 06:01:46 Reply

Watched the 2nd episode of Robertas Blood Trail yesterday, wish they'd get the rest out a bit quicker. It's my fav after Bleach and FMP ^____^


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 11:26:20 Reply

I usually watch subs, but I also watch most of my anime late at night when everyone's asleep so with subs I can turn the volume down and not irritate everyone.

I generally prefer subs anyway but some series I did watch in dub (actually watched bebop in sub but I've seen a couple of eps etc in dub and agree that they're very well done)... I watched Black Lagoon, Trigun, Baccano, Gurren Lagann, maybe a couple of others in dubs... Those have all been pretty decent dubs compared to some stuff i've heard.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 14:44:08 Reply

At 10/24/10 12:55 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: ...You're an idiot of the highest fucking caliber...

I'm an idiot for...what? Being used to watching them with subs? Is that really how we judge people nowadays?

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 15:02:35 Reply

At 10/24/10 12:55 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:
At 10/23/10 11:05 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: Spike has a better voice, but everyone else just sounded flat. They hardly had any emotion whatsoever. Plus, the sound effects are different in the english mix.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to watching anime with the Japanese mix.
...You're an idiot of the highest fucking caliber...

Whoa there, that's a little extreme don't you think?

Even though I prefer dubs, {partly because I want to understand the story and characters} Most of the time, the original Japanese mix are much more polished and professional than the English counterparts, which aren't exactly slouches themselves. And no, I'm being a hypocrite if that's what anyone is thinking, just simply stating an opinion here.

Why in the holy hell are some anime fans continue to bitch and moan about dubs and subs is beyond me, but I think we need to grow up a little bit.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-24 17:54:12 Reply

Cowboy Bebop sucks anyway for neither feature Cowboys nor Bebop music.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-25 00:13:23 Reply

At 10/24/10 05:54 PM, KermitTheMuppet wrote: Cowboy Bebop sucks anyway for neither feature Cowboys nor Bebop music.

Seconded.
It was just guys tearing around with guns paired with T&A on Faye Valentine.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-25 11:22:09 Reply

At 10/24/10 05:54 PM, KermitTheMuppet wrote: Cowboy Bebop sucks anyway for neither feature Cowboys nor Bebop music.

The term "Cowboy" was clearly used as a synonym for "Bounty Hunter." Also, there was a guy on a horse wearing a ten gallon hat, Andy von de Oniyate.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-25 21:55:35 Reply

At 10/25/10 12:13 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
At 10/24/10 05:54 PM, KermitTheMuppet wrote: Cowboy Bebop sucks anyway for neither feature Cowboys nor Bebop music.
Seconded.
It was just guys tearing around with guns paired with T&A on Faye Valentine.

..I honestly hope you're joking.

Hey guys, any of you remember when we were elitist faggots? Good times.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-25 22:19:12 Reply

At 10/23/10 08:36 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: (English dub is horrible on this series, except for Spike). Can someone confirm this?

You're fucking nuts. I often watch anime subbed, but some dubs are better, like Cowboy Bebop, Shin Chan, Lupin, etc.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-25 22:31:41 Reply

At 10/25/10 10:19 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/23/10 08:36 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: (English dub is horrible on this series, except for Spike). Can someone confirm this?
You're fucking nuts. I often watch anime subbed, but some dubs are better, like Cowboy Bebop, Shin Chan, Lupin, etc.

But it sounds like the dub butchers stuff. The word "shit" is removed (And don't even go into that overly literal argument where "kusou" does not mean "shit"), the sound effects are crappy, and as I said everybody sounds flat except for Spike, and Ed is unbearable. Granted, I've heard good dubs, such as Funimation and the Miyazaki films (Done by Disney) but I just didn't like this.

Everybody says it's a pain in the ass to read subtitles, but once I got used to it, I could read the words and watch the entire picture at the same time, and the moonspeak becomes unnoticeable because I'm sort of dubbing over it in my head. It sounds like I'm taking away from the enjoyment factor, but I'm really not.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-10-25 23:40:59 Reply

At 10/25/10 10:31 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote:
At 10/25/10 10:19 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/23/10 08:36 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote: (English dub is horrible on this series, except for Spike). Can someone confirm this?
You're fucking nuts. I often watch anime subbed, but some dubs are better, like Cowboy Bebop, Shin Chan, Lupin, etc.
But it sounds like the dub butchers stuff. The word "shit" is removed (And don't even go into that overly literal argument where "kusou" does not mean "shit"), the sound effects are crappy, and as I said everybody sounds flat except for Spike, and Ed is unbearable.

In all honesty, I heard the orginal Japanese audio of CB, and I thought it wasn't too impressive to me, most of the voices just sound too forced compared to the English dub. Cowboy Bebop was more targeted towards a western audience compared to a lot of other animes, so I would imagined the English dub would be more fitting than the original Japanese audio.

Everybody says it's a pain in the ass to read subtitles, but once I got used to it, I could read the words and watch the entire picture at the same time, and the moonspeak becomes unnoticeable because I'm sort of dubbing over it in my head. It sounds like I'm taking away from the enjoyment factor, but I'm really not.

I don't have too much of a problem with subs, but the main reason why I prefer dubs slightly over subs is so I can understand the story and plot better without having to pause or go back if I happened to miss anything important. Generally, I would watch the English dub first so I get the gist of the story and everything else, then go with the original audio the second go through.

Although, if the dub is generally piss poor, then I would simply avoid the dub altogether and then go the subs.


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