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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 14:01:35 Reply

At 7/13/10 11:06 PM, orangebomb wrote:
That's always a big problem for me, especially in Shonen Jump anime, where they go on for hundreds of episodes of filler and pointless side-quests. That's one the reasons I stay away from One Piece, Naruto, Yu-gi-oh, etc, they pull away from the manga storyline, and try to fill it with other stuff which has little to do with anything.

I thoght that they did yu-gi-oh pretty well, except for the filtering crap. I mean, no guns?????? fucking pointless

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 14:44:27 Reply

My computer imploded right as Samurai Champloo finished downloading. Damn it.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 14:44:47 Reply

At 7/14/10 02:01 PM, supergamer500 wrote:
At 7/13/10 11:06 PM, orangebomb wrote:
That's always a big problem for me, especially in Shonen Jump anime, where they go on for hundreds of episodes of filler and pointless side-quests. That's one the reasons I stay away from One Piece, Naruto, Yu-gi-oh, etc, they pull away from the manga storyline, and try to fill it with other stuff which has little to do with anything.
I thoght that they did yu-gi-oh pretty well, except for the filtering crap. I mean, no guns?????? fucking pointless

Trust me, Yu-gi-oh is utter crap, and the 4kids dub didn't help matters any.
That's why most of my favorites are generally around 13-50 episodes, long enough to explain the story and characters, and short enough where there is no mindless filler and 1-dimentional characters that I really don't give 2 shits about.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 15:54:55 Reply

At 7/14/10 03:05 PM, Mendou wrote: BUY THE DVD/BLURAY AND SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY.

YOU PRICK, YOU PIRATE PRICK.

Man, that shit is expensive.

Why would you spend as much money as you have to to buy a DVD of a series that you might not even like?

I say rent them. If you really like the series after watching it then buy it, I guess?


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 15:57:31 Reply

At 7/14/10 03:05 PM, Mendou wrote:
At 7/14/10 02:44 PM, SomaGuye wrote: My computer imploded right as Samurai Champloo finished downloading. Damn it.
BUY THE DVD/BLURAY AND SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY.

YOU PRICK, YOU PIRATE PRICK.

The lesson here is: Listen to Mendou's words of wisdom to prevent your computer from getting Space AIDS and exploding because you're too much of a dick to support the industry by buying DVDs or Blurays.

At 7/14/10 02:44 PM, orangebomb wrote: Trust me, Yu-gi-oh is utter crap, and the 4kids dub didn't help matters any.
That's why most of my favorites are generally around 13-50 episodes, long enough to explain the story and characters, and short enough where there is no mindless filler and 1-dimentional characters that I really don't give 2 shits about.

This covers just about every major problem that 5 of the important characters in Yu-Gi-Oh had and I'm pretty sure that most people can agree and laugh a little about this.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 19:24:15 Reply

At 7/14/10 03:05 PM, Mendou wrote:
At 7/14/10 02:44 PM, SomaGuye wrote: My computer imploded right as Samurai Champloo finished downloading. Damn it.
BUY THE DVD/BLURAY AND SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY.

YOU PRICK, YOU PIRATE PRICK.

I only buy things after I have watched/listened to them and decided I liked them. I've always done it with CD's, and I will do it with animes when I get the chance.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-14 22:56:34 Reply

At 7/14/10 09:50 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Who here wants to live in japan where there's all the anime, best food and culture?

I dream of japan as a place I wanna live! I even want to learn to speak japanese and learn to work as a teacher there so I can live there!

I think you'll probably end up finding that Japan is a lot like anywhere else.

Only it will be harder to fit in, because of your foreigner status. People will constantly think you're a tourist.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 00:21:56 Reply

At 7/14/10 11:30 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote:
At 7/14/10 10:56 PM, Aigis wrote:
At 7/14/10 09:50 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Who here wants to live in japan where there's all the anime, best food and culture?

I dream of japan as a place I wanna live! I even want to learn to speak japanese and learn to work as a teacher there so I can live there!
I think you'll probably end up finding that Japan is a lot like anywhere else.

Only it will be harder to fit in, because of your foreigner status. People will constantly think you're a tourist.
not true once I become one of them they will love me like one of them.

Yeah Right, I don't think they would ever believe you for a second. You do know that Japan is more than just anime, right?

If I am a teacher they will call me there sensei and their friend!

The hell you been smoking, seriously? It takes a lot more than just saying you want to be a teacher in Japan. I'm no expert on Japanese schooling, but if I remember correctly, it takes a lot of work to be a teacher, and you're also going to be responsible for them if they screw up.

Before I get sucked in anymore, I'll now take to the high road and mention something related to anime, Haruhi Suzumiya, that is all.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 02:02:34 Reply

Groan... is the Korn guy for real or is he some sort of stealth troll making fun of weeaboos? For the record, I'd want to visit Japan, sure. I even might be interested in working there, but the place has its downsides.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 02:52:44 Reply

been reading Hayate no Gotoku for about 4 days at chp248 its really good and sooo funny and has anyone else read it yet


i'm better than you just move on

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 04:28:23 Reply

At 7/14/10 03:54 PM, Aigis wrote:
At 7/14/10 03:05 PM, Mendou wrote: BUY THE DVD/BLURAY AND SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY.

YOU PRICK, YOU PIRATE PRICK.
Man, that shit is expensive.

Why would you spend as much money as you have to to buy a DVD of a series that you might not even like?

I say rent them. If you really like the series after watching it then buy it, I guess?

Not just that, it's often butchered, with the extent of damage ranging from so subtle that only hardcore fans would be able to tell the difference to so glaringly obvious a 5-year-old could point it out. The dubbing industry has a long history of trying to sneak edits past viewers and only in the past 10 years or so have we been able to catch on as easily as we have. I refuse to support an industry that baits-and-switches customers this way. And to make matters worse, there is a rapidly-encroaching threat of outright import bans, which means we as fans may be prosecuted for supporting the original work rather than the domestic distributors! This grinds my gears to the point where I can no longer stand to live in this country (amid the sea of other problems I'm also awash in). Anyone with me besides the guy who likes Korn?


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 11:51:40 Reply

At 7/14/10 02:01 PM, supergamer500 wrote: I thoght that they did yu-gi-oh pretty well, except for the filtering crap. I mean, no guns?????? fucking pointless

ugh. Yu-Gi-Oh. What a pile of korn. all shows like it, too. "uurgh I have to become strong and defeat my opponent. REMEMBER TO BUY OUR PRODUCT, KIDS! gotta buy 'em all!"


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 19:42:03 Reply

At 7/15/10 07:31 PM, LaForge wrote: I'm making my way through Dragonball Z, and there are a lot of plot points that depend on seeing the original Dragonball, but I can't find it anywhere. Frustration!

I think DBZ was always pretty korn, but I'll still watch an episode now and then for the memories. I did love that show when I was a kid.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 19:50:27 Reply

At 7/15/10 07:43 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: flattering mimicry

Yeah, that's it, but you gotta use more tongue. Don't forget to tickle the balls. They always forget the balls.


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thtop teathing and whip it out. jith crith.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 20:22:52 Reply

I think DBZ was always pretty korn, but I'll still watch an episode now and then for the memories. I did love that show when I was a kid.
I think DBZ stupid, not like real anime.

You have no taste in anime


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-15 23:37:08 Reply

At 7/15/10 04:28 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
At 7/14/10 03:54 PM, Aigis wrote:
At 7/14/10 03:05 PM, Mendou wrote: BUY THE DVD/BLURAY AND SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY.

YOU PRICK, YOU PIRATE PRICK.
Man, that shit is expensive.

Why would you spend as much money as you have to to buy a DVD of a series that you might not even like?

I say rent them. If you really like the series after watching it then buy it, I guess?
Blah blah blah America is evil Japan is superior!

Hibi, we've been through this before, and frankly we're tired of it. Please stop bitching about your inane and often unsupported and ignorant claims regarding the state of anime and anime dubbing companies and the supposed edits they apparently do. This is the 21st century, anime has come a long fucking way and will only make improvements as it goes on, I implore you to please stop making every fucking post that really doesn't involve what you're talking about about anime dubs. We're more than happy having you here but if you can't go without outright bitching about the state of American anime adaptations I request taking this to a livejournal. Frankly you are coming across as a troll every time you stand on this soapbox about dubbed anime. It's not fucking working, and it would help if you stop talking about so we don't get into a retarded debate about this shit again because you're not going to change the opinions of the users here and I'd like to see this place as a nice place to discuss anime without the whole "Subs Vs Dubs" horseshit I get from so many otaku.

Please, for the love of the Flying Spagetti Monster, stop it. I hate fucking white-knighting and arguing with you about this.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 01:28:44 Reply

At 7/15/10 07:40 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Newgrounds is a teens site, anyone has the right to join, but you don't seem to understand that. lol I bet your one of those old child predators with a beard ewwwwwwww!
I came here to meet cool teens but their seems just to be old assheads like you lol.

First of all, the clubs are run by the members, and the members have the right to decide who they accepts and don't accept in a club. This isn't in the actual rules as such, but if everyone in the club lets out a collective grooan when they notice you posted, you should kinda take the hint. Besides, there are clubs for specific shows, like Naruto and Bleach which are shunned from this club.

Also, then you go and post a string of homophobic slurs. That is, in fact, against the rules, and a sure fire way to not make friends with me.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 01:46:14 Reply

...Ahem.

Now, I want to say that I took a good, long read at the article that Johnny posted earlier, and I found it very interesting and thought-provoking. I always knew that the Japanese kept a very strict and orderly society, but I never knew it was to that kind of extent. Especially the whole thing about having to apologize after every slightly wrong thing you do, and about all the mandatory greetings and comments that employees are forced to say everyday at work.

Back on the side of anime-related things, does anyone have any idea of when the Tsukihime remake is supposed to be released? All I know is that Type-Moon said that they would work on it when they finished Witch on the Holy Night (I think that's what it's called), and that's been out for a bit of time...

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 02:17:37 Reply

At 7/15/10 07:40 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha loser!

Well you're a stinky poopy butt! (I figure I should use the same grade of language you are)

DBZ is one of the best animes (IMO) ever. The fight scenes are some of the best, the story is awesome, and the characters are well-developed!

Also, Korn is awful. If you going to listen to a metal band, listen to something good like Dethklok or Graveworm or Winds of Plague!


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ASSPHUCK PENIS SHITTTTTT that is all gentleman.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 05:01:07 Reply

At 7/15/10 11:37 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:
Hibi, we've been through this before, and frankly we're tired of it. Please stop bitching about your inane and often unsupported and ignorant claims regarding the state of anime and anime dubbing companies and the supposed edits they apparently do.

My claims are always substantiated in some way; it's not my fault if you refuse to view the evidence.

This is the 21st century, anime has come a long fucking way and will only make improvements as it goes on,

True, but it still has an even longer way to go. I can accurately predict it's just going to get worse, what with the studios pushing the envelope further and further, so much that FUNimation has attempted to refuse to release uncut versions of certain series (e.g. Strike Witches and Dance in the Vampire Bund) for fear of being targeted by the FBI for obscenity.

I implore you to please stop making every fucking post that really doesn't involve what you're talking about about anime dubs. We're more than happy having you here but if you can't go without outright bitching about the state of American anime adaptations I request taking this to a livejournal.

Look, I can't stand it when people parrot the virtues of supporting the domestic anime industry and gloss over all the problems with such. Someone has to be around to set them straight. And don't give me any "just leave them alone, they have nothing to do with you" crap; this IS my business. Every dollar spent on domestically distributed anime goes toward legislation or other restrictions barring legitimate importation of anime and goods for private use. I have to warn them that whenever they buy something, people like me suffer.

Frankly you are coming across as a troll every time you stand on this soapbox about dubbed anime.

Look who's talking. You always play the Devil's Advocate and attempt to rationalize everything they do and have done over the years and encourage other users to purchase their shit just to spite me. It seems that EVERY POST you have ever made in this thread since I returned has been an attack. Why must you pick on just me?

It's not fucking working, and it would help if you stop talking about so we don't get into a retarded debate about this shit again because you're not going to change the opinions of the users here and I'd like to see this place as a nice place to discuss anime without the whole "Subs Vs Dubs" horseshit I get from so many otaku.

I may not have stated this clearly before, but I don't mind dubs as long as they're accurate and faithful to the original. Same with subs. This is not a matter of "subs vs. dubs", this is a matter of bait-and-switch prevention. If someone sold you a cheeseburger and when you bit into it you realized it was a tuna salad sandwich, you'd be pissed, right? It's the exact same thing; the distributors promise us quality anime fresh from Japan but when we look closely at it they've cut it virtually down to nothing and sold us something completely different! In any other industry, this behavior is against the law!

Please, for the love of the Flying Spagetti Monster, stop it. I hate fucking white-knighting and arguing with you about this.

Rubber, glue, back to you.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 09:50:07 Reply

At 7/16/10 05:01 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
At 7/15/10 11:37 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:

Hibi, it sounds like you can't see the forest from the trees with your argument, you may have a few points, but this needs some cleaning up, so to speak.


This is the 21st century, anime has come a long fucking way and will only make improvements as it goes on,
True, but it still has an even longer way to go. I can accurately predict it's just going to get worse, what with the studios pushing the envelope further and further, so much that FUNimation has attempted to refuse to release uncut versions of certain series (e.g. Strike Witches and Dance in the Vampire Bund) for fear of being targeted by the FBI for obscenity.

How do you directly know it's going to get worse, per se? Of course, anime studios will push the envelope further, just like movies, games, etc., they're going to keep pushing until it becomes something like a borderline ecchi because that is what the fans want, and the studios have to get with the times and stay on par with other facets of entertainment., in terms of suggestiveness. I think the FBI has more pressing concerns than boobies and excessive blood in anime, but that's another discussion for another day.


I implore you to please stop making every fucking post that really doesn't involve what you're talking about about anime dubs. We're more than happy having you here but if you can't go without outright bitching about the state of American anime adaptations I request taking this to a livejournal.
Look, I can't stand it when people parrot the virtues of supporting the domestic anime industry and gloss over all the problems with such. Someone has to be around to set them straight.

You make it sound like the dubbing companies are jerks with nothing better to do than insult anime fans like us with shitty dubs and joke subs. Now, are they perfect?, No, but it's their job to dub the anime into English and release to a market to people who will appeal to, {e.g. a show like Bleach would appeal to a range of 13-16 yr old, whereas a show like Code Geass or Hokuto No Ken, is more suited for a 16+ audience. This isn't the 1980's, where a dubbing company could do whatever they wanted to do with a certain anime, it's 2010.

And don't give me any "just leave them alone, they have nothing to do with you" crap; this IS my business. Every dollar spent on domestically distributed anime goes toward legislation or other restrictions barring legitimate importation of anime and goods for private use. I have to warn them that whenever they buy something, people like me suffer.

Why bother buying the import version for more than $200 plus tax, when chances are you don't know what the holy hell they are talking about unless you have a decent knowledge of the Japanese language. And besides, in most box sets, if not all of them, there are options whether you want the dub version, or the original audio with subtitles. It's called marketing, maybe you should brush up on it.

Frankly you are coming across as a troll every time you stand on this soapbox about dubbed anime.
Look who's talking. You always play the Devil's Advocate and attempt to rationalize everything they do and have done over the years and encourage other users to purchase their shit just to spite me. It seems that EVERY POST you have ever made in this thread since I returned has been an attack. Why must you pick on just me?

I don't know about a troll, but more like a butthurt anime purist who is stuck with a view that all American anime dubs are fail, and the original raw version is the best thing that happened in anime history. It's time to get with the times.


It's not fucking working, and it would help if you stop talking about so we don't get into a retarded debate about this shit again because you're not going to change the opinions of the users here and I'd like to see this place as a nice place to discuss anime without the whole "Subs Vs Dubs" horseshit I get from so many otaku.

Hey, that's what we all want, to discuss anime and manga in an enlightened debate, rather than childish name calling and irrelevant talks about poop jokes and WW3 rants, metaphorically speaking.
But there are times where even fans have an archaic view about anime, and how it should be treated. As some people mentioned before, dubbing companies try their best to keep as much as the original content as much as possible along with putting it in English where everyone can understand, and keep the original version intact for people who want it in Japanese.

I may not have stated this clearly before, but I don't mind dubs as long as they're accurate and faithful to the original. Same with subs. This is not a matter of "subs vs. dubs", this is a matter of bait-and-switch prevention. If someone sold you a cheeseburger and when you bit into it you realized it was a tuna salad sandwich, you'd be pissed, right? It's the exact same thing; the distributors promise us quality anime fresh from Japan but when we look closely at it they've cut it virtually down to nothing and sold us something completely different! In any other industry, this behavior is against the law!

I don't recall that. As I stated before, the FBI has bigger things on its plate than an anime chick with boobs, or a tidal wave of blood in a fictional setting, the FCC maybe, but not the FBI.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 10:50:15 Reply

I'm going to ignore the drama that seems to be going on around here and just say I hope they remake Gantz as an anime when the manga finishes. It could have been really good, but they ruined it with terrible pacing and a horrible original ending.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 19:07:30 Reply

At 7/16/10 05:52 PM, LaForge wrote:
At 7/16/10 10:50 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I'm going to ignore the drama that seems to be going on around here and just say I hope they remake Gantz as an anime when the manga finishes. It could have been really good, but they ruined it with terrible pacing and a horrible original ending.
Hurp de durp.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 20:08:58 Reply

so yeah hey that korn guy, sense-offender, et al

shut up or go away

i really have better things to read than two people flinging vague baseless insults at each other. if you want to discuss the merits of old animes vs newer animes or whatever i don't give two shits that's all good and such, just don't do it with all the name calling and lack of actual arguments

final warning

any posts even REMOTELY dicky from either of you (i say either but everyone's at risk here) will get a ban.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 21:44:24 Reply

Right now? Absolutely nothing. I finished Gurren Lagann earlier this week and I don't know what to watch next. A friend's been trying to persuade me to watch One Piece so I can watch it with him every week and discuss whatever thrilling events don't happen, but I'd rather watch paint dry than spend two hundred hours of my life watching the same fucking thing. I don't know what I actually want to watch, something a bit more serious after gurren lagann would be nice though.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-16 22:44:55 Reply

Mendou mentioned Armored Troop Votoms, nothing too over the top compared to TTGL. Or if your sick of mechs, maybe try Mad Bull 34 and Windaria, those are some pretty serious ones I'm watching.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-17 03:05:10 Reply

At 7/16/10 09:50 AM, orangebomb wrote:
How do you directly know it's going to get worse, per se? Of course, anime studios will push the envelope further, just like movies, games, etc., they're going to keep pushing until it becomes something like a borderline ecchi because that is what the fans want, and the studios have to get with the times and stay on par with other facets of entertainment., in terms of suggestiveness. I think the FBI has more pressing concerns than boobies and excessive blood in anime, but that's another discussion for another day.

You've got a point, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind: the government tends to react more swiftly and with more force to perceived threats coming from foreign sources and when a domestic company does the same. In other words, a Hollywood movie could contain a piece of objectionable content that borders on NC-17 and still pass through to the general public, but if an anime were to be released containing the same content, the FCC, FBI and possibly the FTC would jump on it like a pack of dogs on a three-legged cat. It's all part of an inherent xenophobic mindset that's been around longer than anyone can remember.

You make it sound like the dubbing companies are jerks with nothing better to do than insult anime fans like us with shitty dubs and joke subs.

They sometimes come off as such, yes. Al Kahn has repeatedly admitted to not respecting the anime community and has shown it by releasing two shows (Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King, to be precise) on uncut DVD for a time and then discontinuing them to taunt fans.

Now, are they perfect?, No, but it's their job to dub the anime into English and release to a market to people who will appeal to, {e.g. a show like Bleach would appeal to a range of 13-16 yr old, whereas a show like Code Geass or Hokuto No Ken, is more suited for a 16+ audience. This isn't the 1980's, where a dubbing company could do whatever they wanted to do with a certain anime, it's 2010.

They still try to sneak stuff in, or in this case, out. A good example would be Kaleido Star: the dub has several noticeable cuts that they fortunately restored in the subbed version; but unfortunately they still retained some digital paint in certain episodes in both sub and dub.

Why bother buying the import version for more than $200 plus tax, when chances are you don't know what the holy hell they are talking about unless you have a decent knowledge of the Japanese language.

Which I do, to some extent.

And besides, in most box sets, if not all of them, there are options whether you want the dub version, or the original audio with subtitles. It's called marketing, maybe you should brush up on it.

As I said, they don't always do so. There was a firestorm a while back when Bandai Entertainment refused to release the original Japanese audio track on its DVDs of the show.

I don't know about a troll, but more like a butthurt anime purist who is stuck with a view that all American anime dubs are fail, and the original raw version is the best thing that happened in anime history. It's time to get with the times.

I don't oppose all dubs; I only oppose those which are deliberately inaccurate. Many North American dubs from the past 10 years are close enough to be tolerable, but there is always the prominent exception.

Hey, that's what we all want, to discuss anime and manga in an enlightened debate, rather than childish name calling and irrelevant talks about poop jokes and WW3 rants, metaphorically speaking.

Ditto that.

But there are times where even fans have an archaic view about anime, and how it should be treated. As some people mentioned before, dubbing companies try their best to keep as much as the original content as much as possible along with putting it in English where everyone can understand, and keep the original version intact for people who want it in Japanese.

Or so we think.

I don't recall that. As I stated before, the FBI has bigger things on its plate than an anime chick with boobs, or a tidal wave of blood in a fictional setting, the FCC maybe, but not the FBI.

There's always an exception...


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-17 07:02:11 Reply

At 7/16/10 09:44 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Right now? Absolutely nothing. I finished Gurren Lagann earlier this week and I don't know what to watch next. A friend's been trying to persuade me to watch One Piece so I can watch it with him every week and discuss whatever thrilling events don't happen, but I'd rather watch paint dry than spend two hundred hours of my life watching the same fucking thing. I don't know what I actually want to watch, something a bit more serious after gurren lagann would be nice though.

Rainbow - Nisha rokubo no shichinin. This show hasn't finished it's run yet since it started this year, but there are 15 episodes out. It's very dramatic and touching, often brings me to the verge of tears. Also very addicting.