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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-06 00:06:35 Reply

At 6/5/10 08:30 PM, Aigis wrote: Oh, I thought were meant you had been taking classes for 11 years.

Hahahah, I realize it would be easy to misinterpret what I said in that way...

Maybe I'll go to Japan after I finish my degree. See if I can improve my language.

Good luck. You may want to get a copy of this in the meantime.

Well the reason there was a Japanese class at my school was because my school was on good relations with a Japanese school, Toin Gakuen.

Hmmmm, I see.
The closest Japanese-affiliated school I can think of is Tennessee Gakuin University (a direct branch of Meiji Gakuin in Tokyo). I have heard that one local university has a good program, and I am looking into transferring for 2011-2012.

And because Japan is fairly close.

Much closer than it is here. That's all I can say.

I think that market died with the dotcom collapse. Good luck.
Eh, I'm sure I can invent something that will set me for life.

Like a... Shoe... Fork...

Hahaha, I'll just leave you to mull that one over.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-06 04:35:32 Reply

I've been getting into Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles recently

Is anyone else a fan?

I've read a little bit of CLAMP outside of TRC also

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-06 12:31:27 Reply

Not really Anime related, but seeing as you're all (or at least most of you) my bros, thought I'd share this bit of awesomeness Twilight (the user, not the movie) created: That being, a drawing of yours truly.

All done while in Stickcam.
Something I urge my fellow anime fans to consider looking into.
As it's fucking awesome.

Also, so as to stay on topic, still need to finish Cowboy BeBop.
However the adventurous desire watching Lupin the 3rd brought about in my has been quenched, for now.

So much fun can be had at night.
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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-06 13:11:59 Reply

At 6/6/10 12:31 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: Also, so as to stay on topic, still need to finish Cowboy BeBop.

Same here, I'm on the eighth episode right now. It's a great show, but the lack of a continuous story stops me from being hooked to it like other shows. Needing to know what happens next always makes me want to watch more and more of a show.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-06 19:21:48 Reply

At 6/6/10 12:31 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: All done while in Stickcam.
Something I urge my fellow anime fans to consider looking into.
As it's fucking awesome.

I go on Stickam every so often, but the video and audio is hell on my internet connection.

Plus it's mostly a bunch of people having their own private conversations, so I feel like some sort of awkward 19th wheel or something a lot of the time.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-07 18:20:46 Reply

At 6/6/10 08:29 PM, LaForge wrote: I went out and bought the complete boxset of Cowboy at FYE but returned it immediately when I realized it was a dub. That's one series I refuse to read subs for.

Eh, wasn't it this boxset: Anime Legend's Cowboy BeBop?
That's the only one I ever see, has both subs/dubs and various audio quality.

I've been wanting to get season 2 of InuYahsa, but the only places I find that sell it offer the "Dub only, As seen on TV version."
I usually stick with dubs anyway, but I prefer the ability to watch both.
Really wish Anime series wouldn't go out of print. So many classics unable to be bought for a reasonable price.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-07 20:05:45 Reply

Yeah, I have that box set and it has it dubbed.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-08 00:33:43 Reply

I've just took a break from playing Sengoku Rance and, boy, is it amazing. Downloaded it a month ago and it can shred a boring afternoon very fast. Managed to conquer three countries (two of them surrendered while I had to defeat one of them. I'm also kind of guilty of 'save stating' before some battles. Hell, I even save at the beginning of every turn) in two days.

Also, I'm currently reading the Pokémon Adventures/Special manga and it's been great so far (definitely has a better story than the anime and games imo). I'm going to start the Yellow arc later this week.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-08 17:44:19 Reply

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-08 19:35:16 Reply

At 6/8/10 07:21 PM, Mendou wrote: Considering watching Monster, is the manga better?

This better be good, I'd rather not watch some pretentious garbage.

From what I've seen it's a rather good series, though I found certain scenes could have been more impactful had the dialog been presented in a better fashion.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-08 21:04:58 Reply

At 6/8/10 07:21 PM, Mendou wrote: Considering watching Monster, is the manga better?

This better be good, I'd rather not watch some pretentious garbage.

You can't really go wrong with this one, although in the dub, it seems like everyone is able to speak English without a German or even a Czech accent, it just feels weird to me, considering it does take place in Germany and Czechslovakia. Then again, in the original {Japanese} dub, there was no visable accent with any of the characters, so they wanted to be like that in the english dub.

As for the manga, I haven't read it yet, but you should probably read it first before watching the anime.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-08 22:53:04 Reply

At 6/8/10 09:04 PM, orangebomb wrote: You can't really go wrong with this one, although in the dub, it seems like everyone is able to speak English without a German or even a Czech accent, it just feels weird to me, considering it does take place in Germany and Czechslovakia.

Are they supposed to be speaking German and Czech?

If they are, I think they chose the correct path with not giving anybody accents. I hate 'English with an accent' as a tool for showing people are speaking in a foreign language.

It's just really annoying.

If people are speaking their own language, they should be speaking in their own accent. They aren't speaking it with a foreign accent. So if it's translated into English, it should be spoken with an accent native to an English speaker.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-08 23:54:46 Reply

At 6/8/10 10:53 PM, Aigis wrote:
At 6/8/10 09:04 PM, orangebomb wrote: You can't really go wrong with this one, although in the dub, it seems like everyone is able to speak English without a German or even a Czech accent, it just feels weird to me, considering it does take place in Germany and Czechslovakia.
Are they supposed to be speaking German and Czech?

If they are, I think they chose the correct path with not giving anybody accents. I hate 'English with an accent' as a tool for showing people are speaking in a foreign language.

It's just really annoying.

If people are speaking their own language, they should be speaking in their own accent. They aren't speaking it with a foreign accent. So if it's translated into English, it should be spoken with an accent native to an English speaker.

You do have some points, but if you look at some of the other dubs like Hellsing, Black Lagoon or Baccano, many of the VAs do have an accent to their respective characters, {i.e Alexander Anderson has a Scots-Irish accent, or the mobsters in Baccano having a New York accent} which for me makes it a little more believable and a little more accurate to the story and setting. Obviously in Japan, they would be in Japanese with no foriegn accents, now correct me if I am wrong here, but I haven't heard anyone speak Japanese with a British, Irish or any other accent, with the probable exception of a Korean accent.

The main reason for this is, is because English is spoked in a large amount of the world, whereas Japanese is only widely spoken in Japan, and a few other places. Because of this, there are a lot of dialects to the English language, and if the character in an anime is from a country other than Japan or America, It would just seem more natural for them to have an accent than have one with none. {that's not to say a Japanese accent hasn't been done before, but a lot of directors don't really consider it.}

At the end of the day, it is really up to the original directors of the anime to choose the best VAs for the characters, And granted, some of them who try to speak with a foriegn accent isn't exactly the best sounding, but as I have said before, it makes it more natural and believable to a character, than say if a Japanese character having a Boston accent in an English dub.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-09 00:25:25 Reply

At 6/8/10 11:54 PM, orangebomb wrote: You do have some points, but if you look at some of the other dubs like Hellsing, Black Lagoon or Baccano, many of the VAs do have an accent to their respective characters, {i.e Alexander Anderson has a Scots-Irish accent, or the mobsters in Baccano having a New York accent} which for me makes it a little more believable and a little more accurate to the story and setting. Obviously in Japan, they would be in Japanese with no foriegn accents, now correct me if I am wrong here, but I haven't heard anyone speak Japanese with a British, Irish or any other accent, with the probable exception of a Korean accent.

That's not what I'm talking about. If they're supposed to be foreign and talking in English, then sure they should have accents. But if they're supposed to be foreign and speaking in their own language, then they shouldn't have their own accent, because that's just distracting and dumb.

Take for example, Metal Gear Solid 3. Snake's supposed to be speaking Russian for a lot of the game, but he still has an American accent and speaks in English when he does so. That's because it would be horrible having Snake speak in a Russian accent.

Of course the best thing to do is to actually have them speak in their language. If they're supposed to be speaking in Czech, have the voice actors speak in Czech and subtitle it in English. That's authentic.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-09 00:39:25 Reply

Guys...
I have some important news.

You may never be able to read certain manga titles again...

I personally hate those sites anyway, but there are some people on here whom this would affect greatly.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-09 01:03:05 Reply

At 6/9/10 12:39 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
I personally hate those sites anyway, but there are some people on here whom this would affect greatly.

Basically me....

Noooooooo! {:[

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-09 02:02:41 Reply

At 6/9/10 01:03 AM, Gobblemeister wrote:
At 6/9/10 12:39 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
I personally hate those sites anyway, but there are some people on here whom this would affect greatly.
Basically me....

Noooooooo! {:[

Next they'll target music and movie sites!

Yeah, it's not going to work. They'll try, but it's just going to cause more sites to pop up. Though I do like having a collection of anime and manga and anime is actually affected by piracy (because it's a niche market), the companies trying to stop these scan sites aren't going to succeed.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-09 02:35:40 Reply

I mean I certainly don't agree in principle with the fact that i'm basically stealing free manga but to be honest I'm certainly not in a position to pay for manga. Especially in the volumes I would have to buy it to get all my series.

I could maybe subscribe to WSJ since that's 75% of what I read anyway; but even then i'd end up rereading at least 4-7 weeks of chapters and have to pay for it. Not to mention I lose access completely to the more 'mature' series I read like AIKI. Highschool of the Dead, and Ubel Blatt.

I know it won't succeed but they'll likely take down the more popular ones, the highest quality ones. They've already started. Gantz was taken off, and they even had EVERY Seinen series off for a while because of mature content.

My point is that I think it's a little easier to sway some of these websites than things like Limewire.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-09 03:42:30 Reply

At 6/9/10 12:39 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: Guys...
I have some important news.

You may never be able to read certain manga titles again...

I personally hate those sites anyway, but there are some people on here whom this would affect greatly.

I don't like reading comics on the computer.

But honestly, I don't give a shit about stealing comics when I live in New Zealand. The prices are ridiculous.

I'll look on the back of a manga and it will say that it cost $7 in America, but its price is like $35 in New Zealand.

And I'm not paying $35 for something I'll read in an hour and never read again.

However, I use the library where possible.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 00:08:55 Reply

At 6/9/10 03:42 AM, Aigis wrote:
I don't like reading comics on the computer.

Me neither. I hate having to scroll around to be able to read the text.

I'll look on the back of a manga and it will say that it cost $7 in America, but its price is like $35 in New Zealand.

It's actually closer to $20, which is part of why my manga collection is so small.

However, I use the library where possible.

You're lucky if your local libraries even carry the stuff anymore. There have been crusades in several countries (e.g. the US and UK) to get manga out of public libraries and keep it out (and to make matters worse, my MOTHER was a part of this movement).


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 00:12:11 Reply

At 6/10/10 12:08 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
At 6/9/10 03:42 AM, Aigis wrote:
I don't like reading comics on the computer.
Me neither. I hate having to scroll around to be able to read the text.

I've been doing it for years now. I did it at first because I hated waiting through Anime Filler and just wanted to get back to the series. So I looked online and began reading manga online. It took a while to get used to it and even forgot to read it right to left a few times.

However, I've become so accustomed to it know I can't imagine doing it differently.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 01:19:27 Reply

I can never read mangas properly. I always seem to read ones that take liberal use of borders, so I have no idea what order I'm supposed to read anything. ugh


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 01:22:57 Reply

At 6/10/10 12:08 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
I'll look on the back of a manga and it will say that it cost $7 in America, but its price is like $35 in New Zealand.

Perhaps they were old copies I was looking at.

You're lucky if your local libraries even carry the stuff anymore. There have been crusades in several countries (e.g. the US and UK) to get manga out of public libraries and keep it out (and to make matters worse, my MOTHER was a part of this movement).

Okay what?

What's their rationale for this?


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 01:29:45 Reply

At 6/10/10 01:22 AM, Aigis wrote:
At 6/10/10 12:08 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
Okay what?

What's their rationale for this?

I would think it's probably some Reactionary Extremism at work. Hyper conservatives who see manga for nothing but the fanservice and think it's some kind of hypersexualized poison and not suited to be in a place of learning.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 02:23:11 Reply

At 6/10/10 01:29 AM, Gobblemeister wrote:
At 6/10/10 01:22 AM, Aigis wrote:
At 6/10/10 12:08 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
Okay what?

What's their rationale for this?
I would think it's probably some Reactionary Extremism at work. Hyper conservatives who see manga for nothing but the fanservice and think it's some kind of hypersexualized poison and not suited to be in a place of learning.

That's it in a nutshell.
Unfortunately, these "hyperconservatives" are everywhere (at least where I live) and are extremely powerful. Anyone remember the 1999 Toys 'R Us lawsuit? The plaintiff was a stereotypical Dallas conservative. He won the case, and ever since more and more of his kind have popped out of the woodwork and have continued to bash, deride and attempt to destroy the Western manga industry. Even 4Kids CEO Al Kahn is one of them (surprise surprise). They're like cockroaches: they're everywhere, they spread filth wherever they go and it's nearly impossible to get rid of them.


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Okay I originally mentioned in the PS3 Online Lounge, but I thought I'd mention it here for those who are fans of Hokuto no Ken or want to get into it (but don't want their eyes to bleed from the extremely dated animation as the series originally aired ages ago) and have a PS3. I didn't mind HnK's dated animation, although at some points in the series I thought I got stoned off of my ass somehow without the use of any substances because the moment was so freaking trippy looking (I refer MAINLY to Toki's first use of Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken as one of those "trippy moments").

That last sentence was a tidbit off topic, but ANYWAYS, Koei gave Hokuto no Ken the same treatment that Gundam got and gave it a Dynasty Warriors game called Hokuto Musou. BUT WAIT, the game has absolutely astounding graphics and gameplay that are far beyond the bar set by previous Dynasty/Samurai Warriors games. Not only that, but the game also covers the entire Hokuto no Ken story. You get to beat the living shit out of thousands of enemies as HnK characters AND you get the whole story without having to watch the series. Players in Japan LOVED it and there's so much demand for the game internationally that Koei has set a US release date for August (I didn't double check on an EU release date yet).

Now the US and EU localizations of Hokuto Musou will have the same Japanese voice actors (thankfully Koei decided not to hire mediocre VAs to dub the characters this time) or at the most give an option to use English or Japanese voiceovers (like they did with Dynasty Warriors Gundam). So far from what I know it's a PS3 exclusive and there won't be any ports (sorry 360, Wii, and PC folks).

So if you have a PS3 and you want to get into Hokuto no Ken but don't feel like watching the 103 episode series (though I encourage it because it's a heck of a cult classic), Hokuto Musou is your game to check out. It's already out in Japan, but unless you understand Japanese and don't mind reading it, it's better just to wait another 2 months for the US release and buy it if you're in the US and import it if you're in the EU region and you don't feel like waiting any longer.

Speaking of Hokuto no Ken, I think I might rewatch that series again. I wonder if any vendors at Otakon will have a box set or something...


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 20:08:08 Reply

At 6/10/10 06:46 PM, CheppZanoff wrote: That last sentence was a tidbit off topic

I just thought I'd mention that that isn't even close to how you use that word.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 21:07:52 Reply

I don't know if it's relevant to any of you but today the final chapter of FMA was released on Onemanga.

It's 111 pages long

It's a nice end to the series

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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-10 21:42:38 Reply

At 6/10/10 08:08 PM, Aigis wrote: I just thought I'd mention that that isn't even close to how you use that word.

I knew I got "tid" mixed up with "tad." I doubled checked AFTER I posted it. I was like "Ffffuck, I can't edit posts on NG." My bad. xD

At 6/10/10 08:25 PM, Mendou wrote: I'm quite excited that it's being released again, I've only seen the movie, but I'm really looking forward to watching the original series.

The game also looks amazing, you can bet I'll be picking it up.

Definitely. Like I said due to it's age, there are some points where the animation does things that make you think you're tripping balls. For instance Toki's first use of Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken. The screen just flashes like crazy as Toki makes a retarded facial expression like he just let out a fart that was trapped deep within his body for centuries and then the camera pans to the two soldiers staring away at him like "8O" and then Toki holds his hands up with a calm, straight face as the back ground has a 3 color pattern that's constantly changing over and over again. So basically Toki is meditating with his hands held up like he wants to hold hands with you in front of a rainbow-like background which leads people to believe he's an asian Jesus (which is later speculated to be true).

Nevertheless the series was an absolutely great watch. On topic of the game, I'm in same boat as you. I was about to import it but then I found out about the US release date and I was like "Chyeahhh." Ah it's going to be one hell of a game. :D


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Response to Anime Club 2010-06-11 00:06:33 Reply

At 6/10/10 06:46 PM, CheppZanoff wrote: Speaking of Hokuto no Ken, I think I might rewatch that series again. I wonder if any vendors at Otakon will have a box set or something...

Awesome, I haven't watched Hnk in a long time, and I didn't particularly cared for the Streamline dub that I watched last time.

As for the game, It sucks that it's a PS3 exclusive in the US, considering I have a 360. And speaking of the 360, why are their no anime games for the 360, {besides Naruto and Gundam}? I know the 360 is an American game system, but still, we need some anime games for the 360, a general change of pace from a marathon of playing GOW and SSF4.


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