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Hey guys, it's been ages since I've been here but I need some guidance
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On my computer when I look at the hardrive (1) it says I have 69.7 GB free on my Local Disk C:

But when I look at my System Properties (2) it says that I have almost 75GB free
Why is this so and is it possible to regain this missing hardrive space?

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Just found this topic, seems worth a shot.
So I'm running Windows XP Home with SP3 on my custom build PC. For the last few months it went past the bootup screen but goes blank where I should get the logon screen, but generally works fine after an automatic reboot. Over the last month it's occurred very often and requires more and more reboots.
Ran a Checkdisk, no problems. Ran a virus scan with my ESET NOD32 antivirus and Kaspersky online scanner just in case, nothing detected. Registry scans with CCleaner only came up with the usual stuff (as in missing installers that I've removed).
Seemed like a hardware problem so I had a look inside. I'd cleared out the dust several times so nothing significant was there. Removed all connections and reconnected them but they all seemed well connected in the first place. Looked for info on my motherboard (Gigabyte P35-DS3R) and it looked like voltages may be a problem so I upped them by one notch on everything I could control, going up about 3 notches eventually. Still no improvement so I switched back to fail-safe settings. Friend recommended taking out the CMOS battery, so I did, with little improvement. Ran an Orthos blend test for 10 hours for him as well, but no problems. Unfortunately it's gotten worse again, and we're both stumped. Any ideas (and please ask if you need more info on my system)?


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At 6/3/09 03:22 PM, fractureboy wrote: But when I look at my System Properties (2) it says that I have almost 75GB free
Why is this so and is it possible to regain this missing hardrive space?

No it doesn't? Both numbers are exactly the same, and that pie chart shows that you have around 70% of free space....Which you have.....

My picture below states that both numbers are correct and the pie chart shows what is said above. There is no problem here, just your eyes playing tricks on you. Unless I have something COMPLETELY wrong, but I doubt I have though.

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At 6/3/09 04:05 PM, Lizzardis wrote: My picture below states that both numbers are correct and the pie chart shows what is said above. There is no problem here, just your eyes playing tricks on you. Unless I have something COMPLETELY wrong, but I doubt I have though.

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Thanks but I meant the big bytes number, doesn't that equal around 75 GB?

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At 6/3/09 04:00 PM, Sonik-Team wrote: Any ideas (and please ask if you need more info on my system)?

Maybe you could give us your whole system spec, but maybe it is just down to a system reinstall, maybe one of the .dll's or an important system file to start up has been deleted or renamed and its having trouble finding it.

I'd try a system re-install first.

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At 6/3/09 04:08 PM, fractureboy wrote: Thanks but I meant the big bytes number, doesn't that equal around 75 GB?

Oh that. I'm sorry I miss read the screenshot. I think that is supposed to be like that, take a look at my spec below. Its the same.

That maybe hidden files/folders which are not taken into account. Don't worry. its nothing to worry about.

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At 6/3/09 04:11 PM, Lizzardis wrote:
At 6/3/09 04:08 PM, fractureboy wrote: Thanks but I meant the big bytes number, doesn't that equal around 75 GB?
Oh that. I'm sorry I miss read the screenshot. I think that is supposed to be like that, take a look at my spec below. Its the same.

That maybe hidden files/folders which are not taken into account. Don't worry. its nothing to worry about.

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It's good to see a fellow Vista user :)
Oh and thankyou for all the help you've given me, you really deserve some more thankyous for what you help people with

Oh and what theme is that on your computer, looks badass :P

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At 6/3/09 04:22 PM, fractureboy wrote: It's good to see a fellow Vista user :)
Oh and thankyou for all the help you've given me, you really deserve some more thankyous for what you help people with

No problem. I enjoy helping other people. Thank you for your compliment.

Oh and what theme is that on your computer, looks badass :P

Its one called NEXTLevel. Just follow what the description of the download says on that page and you will be able to install it.

Good stuff!

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At 6/3/09 04:00 PM, Sonik-Team wrote: Just found this topic, seems worth a shot.

If you ran Orthos blend with no problems then your RAM and CPU should be fine. Sounds like a old failing hard drive. Format will most likely make it work again for some time. But to completely resolve the problem you should switch out hard drives.

At 6/3/09 04:08 PM, fractureboy wrote: Thanks but I meant the big bytes number, doesn't that equal around 75 GB?

kilobyte=1024 bytes
1 megabyte=1024^2 bytes
1 gigabyte=1024^3 bytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes

74,800,000,000 bytes = 69.7 gigabytes

It is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Co nsumer_confusion


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At 6/3/09 04:32 PM, Wylo wrote: kilobyte=1024 bytes
1 megabyte=1024^2 bytes
1 gigabyte=1024^3 bytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes

74,800,000,000 bytes = 69.7 gigabytes

It is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Co nsumer_confusion

Thanks I thought it was just 1000

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You guys make me laugh. I'd just thought I'd throw my two cents in.

74 862 432 256 bytes = 69.7210732 gigabytes

You have to remember that 1 GB is actually 1024 MB and 1073741824 bytes

The computer isn't lying and there's no secret space you are accidentally missing.


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At 6/3/09 04:32 PM, Wylo wrote: kilobyte=1024 bytes
1 megabyte=1024^2 bytes
1 gigabyte=1024^3 bytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes

74,800,000,000 bytes = 69.7 gigabytes

It is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Co nsumer_confusion

My bad, I posted the same thing before this appeared.

Didn't mean to repeat what Wylo said.


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At 6/3/09 04:35 PM, fractureboy wrote:
At 6/3/09 04:32 PM, Wylo wrote: kilobyte=1024 bytes
1 megabyte=1024^2 bytes
1 gigabyte=1024^3 bytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes

74,800,000,000 bytes = 69.7 gigabytes

It is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Co nsumer_confusion
Thanks I thought it was just 1000

1000 is used by manufacturers, because it's easier to calculate. That's why you have actually "less" capacity on your hard drive. For example if you buy a 80GB hard drive in the store, you'll see that you actually only have a capacity of roughly 70something GB. That's because the manufacturer calculated with 1000 while operating systems/computers caluclate with 1024 (and they do that because of the binary system, etc.).

Also, it's a bit confusing, because "kilo" means "1000" and not "1024".

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At 6/3/09 04:08 PM, Lizzardis wrote: I'd try a system re-install first.

Oh yeah completely forgot about that when my friend told me to check my hardware instead. Lost my OEM Restore CD (PC was originally a Dell I kept on upgrading). I'm still trying to get any XP CD from a friend but no luck so far. If I do try it and it fails I'll get back.

At 6/3/09 04:32 PM, Wylo wrote: If you ran Orthos blend with no problems then your RAM and CPU should be fine. Sounds like a old failing hard drive. Format will most likely make it work again for some time. But to completely resolve the problem you should switch out hard drives.

True - it is the oldest thing in my PC at the moment. If I get some money I'll swap it out then. Wylo, is there nothing you can't do?


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to check if it is the hdd you could download a linux OS on a cd that is bootable so you can test it without having to use the hdd.

It puts linux on a disc and makes it operational so in theory although it would be slow you could use it as an OS. it isnt hard to find one using google.

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RE-BUMP for my USB/CD-ROM problem!

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At 6/7/09 03:06 PM, iMate900 wrote: RE-BUMP for my USB/CD-ROM problem!

If your computer problem hasn't been done by now then I would guess that no-one knows what to do. I'm sorry.

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At 6/7/09 03:06 PM, iMate900 wrote: RE-BUMP for my USB/CD-ROM problem!

just a thought, have you installed nero since the problem started. This could be the cause


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First:
* I don't have Nero.
* I don't use Windows, but Gentoo Linux.
* I am using a Acer Aspire 5315-2153.
* Something screwy went wrong with my config.
As of now, I don't have a CD or USB drive to test.

I am now going to screw with the configuration of my kernel. I'll report back.

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USB storage enabled - good
SCSI CD-ROM spport - will test when I get home

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Hi,

USB works, BUT my CD-ROM STILL doesn't want to work.

Help me, someone!

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At 6/16/09 07:13 PM, iMate900 wrote: Hi,

USB works, BUT my CD-ROM STILL doesn't want to work.

Help me, someone!

Can you post what your problem is, i can't seem to find it. I need more than " my CD-ROM does not work...help" I see no one has answered this and its been going on since before i left so i don't know how much i will be able to help you, but i will give it a try.

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At 6/16/09 08:26 PM, idiot-buster wrote:
At 6/16/09 07:13 PM, iMate900 wrote: Hi,

USB works, BUT my CD-ROM STILL doesn't want to work.

Help me, someone!
Can you post what your problem is, i can't seem to find it. I need more than " my CD-ROM does not work...help" I see no one has answered this and its been going on since before i left so i don't know how much i will be able to help you, but i will give it a try.

Hello,

I am using Gentoo Linux. I open the CD-ROM and insert a CD-ROM (like the disc of "Oregon Trail II"), but a listing of devices reveals that the computer does not recongize the CD.

I hope this clears things up a bit. I'm learning Java right now, but will have time to check this thread.

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Ok,

the computer won't recognize the cd. Take the cd out and try cleaning it off....it would just be dust or something.

Second, try it in another computer, if it doesn't work in that computer it is a bad disk and you need to re-burn it or buy a new cd.

Third if it does work in another computer it could be a problem with the cdrom in your computer. You might also want to try re-starting the computer and then try it.

I'm sorry but my Knowledge with Linux is limited at best and i really could not say what the problem is. If you were using Microsoft Windows or mac i may have been able to help you better. I would sugest going to there tecnical support line.

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At 6/18/09 02:12 PM, idiot-buster wrote: Third if it does work in another computer it could be a problem with the cdrom in your computer. You might also want to try re-starting the computer and then try it.

Or just buy a new CD drive or an external one. If it is your CD drive that is.

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or if like you said you messed with the config files you could try re-installing linux from a bootable usb flash drive


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At 6/3/09 04:22 PM, fractureboy wrote: It's good to see a fellow Vista user :)

I'd just like to follow up and say that Bytes never exactly match up to Gigabytes. The system isn't to the mutliples of 10. So it's NOT:
byte-1
kilobyte-10
megabyte-100
gigabyte-10000
terabyte-100000000
etc

Rather, it's powers of 2
And so is in the form of:
1 Byte = 8 Bit
1 Kilobyte = 1024 Bytes
1 Megabyte = 1048576 Bytes
1 Gigabyte = 1073741824 Bytes
etc

It's kind of hard to explain, but if you look here:
There has been considerable confusion about the meanings of SI (or metric) prefixes used with the word "byte", especially concerning prefixes such as kilo- (k or K) and mega- (M) as shown in the chart Prefixes for bit and byte. Since computer memory is designed with binary logic, multiples are expressed in powers of 2, rather than 10. The software and computer industries often use binary estimates of the SI-prefixed quantities, while producers of computer storage devices prefer the SI values. This is the reason for specifying computer hard drive capacities of, say, "100 GB" when it contains 93 GiB (or 93 GB in traditional units) of addressable storage. Because of the confusion, a contract specifying a quantity of bytes must define the system of unit interpretation used.

Also, if you don't believe THAT, just use a byte converter calculator.

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From idiot-buster:

Ok,

the computer won't recognize the cd. Take the cd out and try cleaning it off....it would just be dust or something.

I've tried many CDs in the past.

Second, try it in another computer, if it doesn't work in that computer it is a bad disk and you need to re-burn it or buy a new cd.

The problem is that my "other" computer is currently down.

Third if it does work in another computer it could be a problem with the cdrom in your computer. You might also want to try re-starting the computer and then try it.

Restarts won't help me.

I'm sorry but my Knowledge with Linux is limited at best and i really could not say what the problem is. If you were using Microsoft Windows or mac i may have been able to help you better. I would sugest going to there tecnical support line.

"Techianical support line?" Hmm...

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Or just buy a new CD drive or an external one. If it is your CD drive that is.

The internal CD-ROM worked in Windows Vista. Problem is, I had adjusted to Linux. Plus, I LOST the admin password!

From steveo1259:

or if like you said you messed with the config files you could try re-installing linux from a bootable usb flash drive

The problem is, I DON'T have a "bootable" USB stick.

This concludes my WRAP-UP OF MY CD-ROM PROBLEM POSTS AND ANSWERS...

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thing is, i dont have a bootable usb stick either, you can make one using FREE software from the web that you can download. Thats what i did when i needed to install XP to a computer without a cd drive


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At 6/20/09 10:42 AM, steveo1259 wrote: thing is, i dont have a bootable usb stick either, you can make one using FREE software from the web that you can download. Thats what i did when i needed to install XP to a computer without a cd drive

I know, I know. SYSLINUX, Gujin, etc. But I installed from CD-ROM (using a Ubuntu Live CD, really handy)

I also DON'T have a USB stick.

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