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Computer Hospital
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Welcome to page 40!

I haven't done a page header in a long time. This might be an appropriate time to bring one back.
Especially since the topic has increased in traffic!

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Rules:

More like guidelines, but please try to follow them when you post a question
1. Post your computer's specs
- The more information you can give us, the better we can help you solve your problem

2. Post your operating system
- With alternative OS's becoming more and more popular, it's important that we know what you are using.

3. If you are getting an error message, please paste it in its entirety
- Simply saying "I get some error with a number... about a bus thingy" isn't good enough. We can't help you unless you give us exactly what appears on your screen

4. If you made any recent changes to your system, installed some software just before your problem appeared, please inform us.
- If your computer is extremely slow and you don't mention that you recently installed a bunch of programs and got a warning about low hard drive space, it's going to take us a lot longer to diagnose your problem.

5. Finally, please be patient.
- Someone will get to your problem eventually. If for some reason your problem is not addressed, please post it again on the next page. Don't simply say "Why hasn't anyone helped me yet?". Post the whole problem again.

That's it. Follow those and things will go much smoother.

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Tools:
There are a number of excellent free tools available if you look at the header on page 1 of the topic.

Here's a few sites/tools that I find useful.

1. http://www.pastebin.com
- If you have some text you want us to see, and it's kind of lengthy (Say the contents of a file), this is a great place to put it. Paste your text in here, upload it, and then post the link in your question or answer.

2. http://housecall.trendmicro.com
- Free online antivirus scan. I used to fix a lot of computers and this was a great site to fix an infection if the local antivirus was compromised.

3. http://www.knoppix.org/
- Free Live Linux distribution. Whether you just want to give Linux a try, or you want to figure out if your problem is Windows related, or Hardware related, Knoppix is a great tool. Just download, burn to a CD or DVD, and reboot your computer with the disc in the tray. You'll get a full working Linux environment to play around with, or troubleshoot with.

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Thank You's:

I want to thank Deckheadtottie for starting this thread. I know he doesn't visit so often anymore (and I don't blame him) but it's a great alternative to "DELETE SYSTEM32!" in the General forum.

Also want to say thanks to everyone who looked after this topic during the summer while I was gone working

And finally, to all the people who have been helping out recently. There's quite a few of you now I think. Good to see.

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Notes:

If you feel like you know a thing or two about computers, please feel free to stop by and help someone who has a problem. All I ask is that the information you give them be accurate, and any tools you link them be clean (spyware/virus free) and free. We're not here to encourage piracy, and I certainly don't encourage people to pay for software if there is an alternative available.

Thanks
- RageOfOrder

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At 11/13/08 07:02 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote:

At 11/13/08 07:00 PM, iMate900 wrote: Do you have a router?

Yeah, but I figured it out, thanks guys.

As a side note... All routers have a reset button on them.
If you ever lose your router password and can't log into it, then you can use the reset button to wipe it out.
Warning: You'll reset EVERYTHING. You'll have to go in and re-configure your connection settings, port forwarding, DHCP reservation, MAC Filters, and/or whatever else you had set previously.

If you just lose your password for your wireless connection, there's no need to reset.
Just plug in to the router with an ethernet cable, log into your router, and change the password to something new.

This thread is dripping down the drain. Most people escape this thread and posting topics for help with their computers. Drat. *goes crazy, them hops on Linux laptop to make programs*

We need more help requests! We are 24/7!

At 11/15/08 07:19 AM, iMate900 wrote: We need more help requests! We are 24/7!

Alright, fine, I got a question about my RAM. I got an XP about 7 years old with 2 chips of 256MB DDR RAM. Is it safe for me to replace one of them with 1GB DDR2 ram?

At 11/16/08 11:43 AM, Laughingbox wrote:

At 11/15/08 07:19 AM, iMate900 wrote: We need more help requests! We are 24/7!

Alright, fine, I got a question about my RAM. I got an XP about 7 years old with 2 chips of 256MB DDR RAM. Is it safe for me to replace one of them with 1GB DDR2 ram?

Trial and error matters. If it doesn't work, you need DDR memory chips, not DDR2. Otherwise they are fine. Chances are that it won't support it, but like I said, trial and error matters. So try the DDR2 chips and post back what you get.

At 11/16/08 03:17 PM, iMate900 wrote:

Trial and error matters. If it doesn't work, you need DDR memory chips, not DDR2. Otherwise they are fine. Chances are that it won't support it, but like I said, trial and error matters. So try the DDR2 chips and post back what you get.

Sweet, I'll try it once I get the RAM, thanks!

Heyy guys,

My HP's laptop keyboard has a key that has become loose and, just today, fallen off

Here's the picture, but I was wondering, how do I put it back on? (Nothing's broken off)

Here:

At 11/17/08 11:58 AM, fractureboy wrote: Heyy guys,

My HP's laptop keyboard has a key that has become loose and, just today, fallen off

Here's the picture, but I was wondering, how do I put it back on? (Nothing's broken off)

Here:

I'll suggest using 2 pieces of tape to tape the key back. Cut one tape piece thin to fit the key and tape it to anywhere. The other piece should end on a key that is far and nearby. Now, BE CAREFUL!

At 11/17/08 04:41 PM, iMate900 wrote:

At 11/17/08 11:58 AM, fractureboy wrote: Heyy guys,

My HP's laptop keyboard has a key that has become loose and, just today, fallen off

Here's the picture, but I was wondering, how do I put it back on? (Nothing's broken off)

Here:

I'll suggest using 2 pieces of tape to tape the key back. Cut one tape piece thin to fit the key and tape it to anywhere. The other piece should end on a key that is far and nearby. Now, BE CAREFUL!

Is there actually anyway to fix it back to where it was orginally without using any tape?

At 11/17/08 05:09 PM, fractureboy wrote: Is there actually anyway to fix it back to where it was orginally without using any tape?

They key is just a cap on a button underneat it. If you want the cap back on the best way to do it is just to use a tiny drop of glue, put the key back in place, and apply a bit of pressure.

Don't use much glue. The last thing you want is for the glue to expand and glue the key to another key, or glue it down permanently.

But that's the best way to do it.

I wonder if anyone can help me.
When I start up my computer, I get the following error message:

A problem has been detected and windows has bas been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Disable or uninstall any anti-virus, disk defragmentation or backup utilities. Check your hard drive configuration and check for any updated drivers. Run Checkdisk /F to check for hard drive corruption and then restart your computer.
Technical information:
*** STOP : 0X00000024 (0X00190203, 0X867608b0, 0Xc0000102, 0X00000000)

Does anyone have any idea of how to fix this problem?

I would have taken the time to make a more courteous and polite message, but I have a parent breathing over my shoulder right now, asking what the hell I'm doing with their laptop. So I should really be going.

Thanking you all in advance,
Ynek.

At 11/18/08 03:00 PM, Ynek wrote:

*** STOP : 0X00000024 (0X00190203, 0X867608b0, 0Xc0000102, 0X00000000)

Is it giving you a driver name that is causing this error *SOMETHING*.sys? Are you able to boot into Safe Mode? Is this happening all the time when you try and boot into Windows? Is this all the information being given?

To me, it sounds like some sort of hardware corruption, probably RAM or your HD. Try a Linux LiveCD Knoppix or Ubuntu are adequate choices (I recommend Knoppix). In the case that blue screen is being caused by imminent hard drive failure, I would suggest you run this Live CD now and back up what you can.

At 11/18/08 03:13 PM, deckheadtottie wrote:

At 11/18/08 03:00 PM, Ynek wrote:

*** STOP : 0X00000024 (0X00190203, 0X867608b0, 0Xc0000102, 0X00000000)

Is it giving you a driver name that is causing this error *SOMETHING*.sys? Are you able to boot into Safe Mode? Is this happening all the time when you try and boot into Windows? Is this all the information being given?

To me, it sounds like some sort of hardware corruption, probably RAM or your HD. Try a Linux LiveCD Knoppix or Ubuntu are adequate choices (I recommend Knoppix). In the case that blue screen is being caused by imminent hard drive failure, I would suggest you run this Live CD now and back up what you can.

Yes, that's all the information that's given, and it doesn't give any specific details regarding what exactly is causing the error.
A friend of mine has suggested trying to rescue files from this hard disk using something called a hard disk caddy. Is this a good idea? Or is he just speaking in farts?

I guess it's time that I started looking at a new computer. This one seems to be on its last legs.

With thanks for your continuing help,
Ynek.

*iMate900 looks at the shape of the Computer Hospital. This is his last message here. Divided we fall. United we stand. But we are divided and then we fall. Farewell!*

hai guise

I'm getting an error with my HDD

I made a thread about it on a different forum and you can see the problem here:

http://www.computerforum.com/136374-hdd-
causing-computer-crash.html

I'm using Windows xp home (also my ubar pc r0x0rz ur b0x0rz)

At 11/25/08 11:07 AM, TacoFreak wrote: hai guise

I'm getting an error with my HDD

I made a thread about it on a different forum and you can see the problem here:

http://www.computerforum.com/136374-hdd-
causing-computer-crash.html

I'm using Windows xp home (also my ubar pc r0x0rz ur b0x0rz)

I am back to solve your mystery. The thing is your HD being corrupt.
Solutions:
1. Replace your HD and reinstall Windows.
2. Go to a nearby computer shop and tell them to fix your computer. (Circuit City etc.)
3. Post back that you want to solve it the hard way. I'll guide you fixing your computer.

New hard drive? Oh ffs.

I also got my windows reinstalled 3 weeks ago when I got my computer upgraded really don't want to go through it again.

Any other way to fix it?

I'll take the hard way btw.

Also I've just gotten another fucking BSOD, I get a different one every fucking week so god damn lame.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314063

How do I fix that?

I forgot to add that it happened after about an hour of playing COD4.

Sorry for triple post, but I googled it and I've got results that if it's happening while playing cod4 (or another game) it's most likely an unstable overclock.

Don't know what's unstable though...

CPU @ 213 FSP, 15.5 multiplier 1.425 V @ 3.3 GHZ 3.1 GHZ stock

Ram not OC, voltage @ 2.1, was 1.8 at start but in specs for my ram it says 2.2 V

GFX card slightly OC, is stable

At 11/25/08 02:04 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Sorry for triple post, but I googled it and I've got results that if it's happening while playing cod4 (or another game) it's most likely an unstable overclock.

Don't know what's unstable though...

CPU @ 213 FSP, 15.5 multiplier 1.425 V @ 3.3 GHZ 3.1 GHZ stock

Ram not OC, voltage @ 2.1, was 1.8 at start but in specs for my ram it says 2.2 V

GFX card slightly OC, is stable

Hard way

---WARNING--- ===NOT DOING THESE DIRECTIONS Carefully WILL RESULT IN DATA LOSS OR WINDOWS PROBLEMS!!!!!! YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE LINUX IF DATA LOSS OCCURS===

1. Clock the CPU at 2.9 GHz.
2. Remove ALL third-party programs.
3. Remove ALL third-party hardware.
4. Replace your RAM with different chips.
==LAST RESORT==
5. Restore Windows.
Cor. of M$:
Method 1: Use the Last Known Good Configuration feature
The Last Known Good Configuration feature is a recovery option that you can use when you cannot start Windows XP after you make a change to your computer, or when you suspect that a change that you previously made may have caused a problem. This feature restores registry information and driver settings that were in effect the last time that the computer started successfully. For more information about using the Last Known Good configuration, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
307852 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/
) How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration feature in Windows XP

* If this method restores windows and resolves the Stop error message, you are finished.
* If this method did not restore Windows or did not resolve the Stop error message, go to method 2.

Method 2: Repair the Windows XP installation
If you were unable to restore Windows by using the Last Known Good Configuration feature, try to restore Windows by repairing the Windows XP installation.
Prerequisites
Make sure that you have the Windows XP installation CD or DVD available.
Suggested materials
Before you start the troubleshooting steps, you may want to have the following available:

* Antivirus or BIOS-level software documentation
* Computer documentation about how to set up your CD or DVD drive as the first priority startup device

To repair the Windows XP installation, follow these steps:

1. Disable any antivirus program and BIOS-level antivirus protection. For help, see the relevant software manual or online Help.
2. Make sure that the CD or DVD drive is the first priority startup device. See your computer documentation for information about how to do this.
3. Insert the Windows XP CD into the CD or DVD drive, and then restart your computer.
4. When the instruction to "Press any key to boot from CD" appears, press a key. Your computer starts from the Windows XP CD.
5. When the computer starts from the CD, the system verifies your hardware, and then prompts you to select one of the following options:
* To set up Windows XP now, press ENTER.
* To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.
* To exit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.
6. Press ENTER.
7. Press F8 to accept the Licensing Agreement.
8. A box lists your current Windows XP installation, and then the computer prompts you to select one of the following options:
* To repair the selected Windows XP installation, press R.
* To continue installing a fresh copy of Windows XP without repairing, press ESC.
9. Press R. After you repair Windows XP, you may have to reactivate Windows XP if you changed some hardware.
* If this method restores Windows and resolves the Stop error message, you are finished.
* If this method did not restore Windows or did not resolve the Stop error message, go to method 3.

Method 3: Use the Rollback Driver feature
If you can start your computer in safe mode, use this method to restore Windows when method 2 does not work.

The Rollback Driver feature enables you to replace a device driver by using a previously installed version. You can use this feature if you have installed a new device driver that causes your computer to be unstable. When you use the Rollback Driver feature, you can restore (or roll back) the previous device driver, and continue to use the computer. For more information about how to use the Roll Back Driver feature, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
283657 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283657/
) How to use the Roll Back Driver feature in Windows XP

* If this method restores Windows and resolves the Stop error message, you are finished.
* If this method did not restore Windows or did not resolve the Stop error message, go to method 4.

Method 4: Use the Windows XP System Restore feature
If you can start your computer in safe mode, use this method to restore Windows when method 3 does not work. Windows XP System Restore takes a "snapshot" of critical system files and some program files and stores this information as restore points. You can use these restore points to return Windows XP to a previous state. For more information about how to use the System Restore feature, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
306084 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306084/
) How to restore the operating system to a previous state in Windows XP

* If this method restores Windows and resolves the Stop error message, you are finished.
* If this method did not restore Windows or did not resolve the Stop error message, go to method 5.

Method 5: Use Recovery Console
We recommend that you use the Recovery Console to restore Windows only after safe mode and other startup options do not work. If you cannot start your computer, you can run the Recovery Console from the Windows XP startup disks or CD-ROM.

You can use Recovery Console to enable and disable services, format drives, read and write data on a local drive (including drives that are formatted to use the NTFS file system), and perform many other administrative tasks. The Recovery Console is especially useful if you have to repair your computer by copying a file from a disk or CD-ROM to your hard disk, or if you have to reconfigure a service that is preventing your computer from starting correctly.
Prerequisites
Make sure that you have the Windows XP installation CD or DVD available. For additional information about how to use Recovery Console, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
307654 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654/
) How to install and use the Recovery Console in Windows XP

* If this method restores Windows and resolves the Stop error message, you are finished.
* If this method did not restore Windows or did not resolve the Stop error message, go to method 6.

Method 6: Rename the problem software or driver
If you can start your computer in DOS or safe mode, use this method as a last resort when all other methods to try to restore Windows do not work.

* If Windows is located on a FAT partition, start the computer by using MS-DOS, and then rename the problem software or driver.
* Otherwise, use safe mode with a Command prompt to start the computer, and then rename the problem software or driver.

For more information about safe mode boot options, visit the Microsoft Help and Support Web site and see "A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP."
o If this method restores Windows and resolves the Stop error message, you are finished.
o If this method did not restore Windows or did not resolve the Stop error message, visit the following Microsoft Web site for information about how to contact Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/
That's many methods to restore WinXP.
6. Install Linux. Get Debian.

No much else to say :)

Isn't there anyway to fix it besides underclocking and removing programs? ughhhhhhhh god damn it

I'll post if I get the error again, I've been playing about an hour of cod4 now and no error.

At 11/25/08 04:34 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Isn't there anyway to fix it besides underclocking and removing programs? ughhhhhhhh god damn it

What are your core temps and what cooling are you using? It might just be simple overheating.

Still, I don't like seeing a BSOD with an NTFS error, I would personally consider that a rather serious problem. Are your HDs still spinning nicely? No clicks or clunks or anything?

If you feel your HD is okay, may I still suggest you make a back up now, just to be safe.

Idle is like 30 -35 'C

Cod4 usually 50 'C highest I've seen was 55'C after a long game session. Max temp for my cpu without crashing is 62 'C.

Ughh when I was downloading some wow patch 2 days ago I heard some noises coming from my HDD.

My cpu cooler is Arctic freezer pro 64. Ehm, HDD temps are about 45-50'C, never seen higher than 51'C.

My First hdd which is samsung and 2 years old is the one with the problems me thinks. When I start up windows right before the log in screen it does a CHKDSK ON D: which is my Samsung HDD. I also have a new hdd which is about 8 months old, and I don't know what brand it is.

triple post again lulz

just need to say that the patch that I was downloading was for WoW, and that was located on E: which is my new HDD

Hmmmm

At 11/25/08 04:47 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Idle is like 30 -35 'C

Cod4 usually 50 'C highest I've seen was 55'C after a long game session. Max temp for my cpu without crashing is 62 'C.

That's all good.

Ughh when I was downloading some wow patch 2 days ago I heard some noises coming from my HDD.

It might not be all doom and gloom, download CrystalDiskInfo from here extract, and run the exe. It queries your drives built in SMART data. You're wanting a "GOOD" health status and blue "ticks" everywhere else (see image below for what I mean).

If you have ANYTHING which isn't blue, post here.

Ok I'm doing that right now, also look if everything here is good, might be related to my 0xA error:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/
Bartmasta/cpu.jpg

TACOFREAKS LULZY ALT

All's good on D: and E:

I'm not getting the HDD BSOD, like I said in that thread. The only problem that I'm getting besides the 0xA thing is my computer completely freezing while running Firefox. It could be with other programs but I've had it crash 10 times and only with Firefox.

++COMPUTER HOSPITAL++

RAGEOFORDER IS ONE HELL OF A SEXY BITCH.

Rules:

More like guidelines, but please try to follow them when you post a question
1. Post your computer's specs
- The more information you can give us, the better we can help you solve your problem

2. Post your operating system
- With alternative OS's becoming more and more popular, it's important that we know what you are using.

3. If you are getting an error message, please paste it in its entirety
- Simply saying "I get some error with a number... about a bus thingy" isn't good enough. We can't help you unless you give us exactly what appears on your screen

4. If you made any recent changes to your system, installed some software just before your problem appeared, please inform us.
- If your computer is extremely slow and you don't mention that you recently installed a bunch of programs and got a warning about low hard drive space, it's going to take us a lot longer to diagnose your problem.

5. Finally, please be patient.
- Someone will get to your problem eventually. If for some reason your problem is not addressed, please post it again on the next page. Don't simply say "Why hasn't anyone helped me yet?". Post the whole problem again.

That's it. Follow those and things will go much smoother.

======================

Tools:
There are a number of excellent free tools available if you look at the header on page 1 of the topic.

Here's a few sites/tools that I find useful.

1. http://www.pastebin.com
- If you have some text you want us to see, and it's kind of lengthy (Say the contents of a file), this is a great place to put it. Paste your text in here, upload it, and then post the link in your question or answer.

2. http://housecall.trendmicro.com
- Free online antivirus scan. I used to fix a lot of computers and this was a great site to fix an infection if the local antivirus was compromised.

3. http://www.knoppix.org/
- Free Live Linux distribution. Whether you just want to give Linux a try, or you want to figure out if your problem is Windows related, or Hardware related, Knoppix is a great tool. Just download, burn to a CD or DVD, and reboot your computer with the disc in the tray. You'll get a full working Linux environment to play around with, or troubleshoot with.

======================

Thank You's:

I want to thank Deckheadtottie for starting this thread. I know he doesn't visit so often anymore (and I don't blame him [LOL - DHT]) but it's a great alternative to "DELETE SYSTEM32!" in the General forum.

Also want to say thanks to everyone who looked after this topic during the summer while I was gone working

And finally, to all the people who have been helping out recently. There's quite a few of you now I think. Good to see.

======================

Notes:

If you feel like you know a thing or two about computers, please feel free to stop by and help someone who has a problem. All I ask is that the information you give them be accurate, and any tools you link them be clean (spyware/virus free) and free. We're not here to encourage piracy, and I certainly don't encourage people to pay for software if there is an alternative available.

Thanks
- <strike>RageOfOrder</strike> DHT