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Posted at: 10/21/07 03:38 AM

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Thanks :)
I'll try it later... it's 3 AM right now, just woke up and checked this, time to go back to sleep.
But, before I do, I have another question...

After I uninstall my current video card, it'll still be POSSIBLE to boot up, right?


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Okay, I tried this... Uninstalled my driver, shut down, put in the other driver, and tried to boot.
I still get the black screen :(


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Well, I'm going out to dinner now...
Think you could please try and help me before I get back?
It'd be appreciated.


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At 10/21/07 03:14 PM, condawg wrote: Well, I'm going out to dinner now...
Think you could please try and help me before I get back?
It'd be appreciated.

I know I'm not active in this topic anymore (largely due to posts like this), but if you could bare with people who are trying to help you, it would be appreciated. Rage, I'm sure, is a busy man and he offers the technical support here free of charge and in his own, personal time.

If it wasn't for my job consuming 99% of my time, I would love to dig deep, get my hands dirty and help you out. But sadly, at this time, it's just Rage by himself. So just, you know, be a little more patient.


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So the other solution is to look in your manual for your motherboard. I hope you still have this. Sometimes you need to disable the onboard video via either a BIOS setting or a jumper on the motherboard.
If this is the case, You'll probably just want to take it in and have it installed for you.
So consult your manual.

I read a little guide here that suggests a couple things.

They suggest you put your new video card in, and boot up with the monitor attached to your onboard display port. If it boots up like that, install the new drivers, uninstall the old ones, and reboot.

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At 10/21/07 05:14 PM, RageOfOrder wrote: If this is the case, You'll probably just want to take it in and have it installed for you.

I should clarify a little here.
If you have a BIOS option, then you can do it yourself. A jumper on the motherboard is not something I feel comfortable walking you through without being there in person.

So if you look through your BIOS (press F2 or Del on startup) you should be able to find an option to load either the onboard video first, or PCI/VGA first. You want to make sure that VGA is enabled and loaded first. This should resolve any conflict between the two.

Once you switch that option, press F10 to save and reboot.

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At 10/21/07 05:12 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: Too Long to Quote

I know, and I am appreciative with the help I'm getting... Extremely appreciative. I don't know what I'd do without it. I was just checking to see if I could get help pretty soon... Primarily because I have school tomorrow, and I know that if I don't get this done tonight I'll be anticipating it while in school the whole day tomorrow, and I'll focus on it more then my schoolwork. Wouldn't be the first time.
Sorry if I'm being annoying though. I don't mean to.

At 10/21/07 05:51 PM, RageOfOrder wrote: A bunch of stuff

I'm not sure if I have the manual... I'll have to check. And about putting the card in and plugging my monitor into my onboard and booting up and installing the drivers for my new card, that doesn't work... My screen just stays black.

I'll check the BIOS soon. Thanks much :)


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I tried just about everything in the BIOS and nothing worked... =S
Checked the manual, and it just says to make sure that the drivers are installed... But the driver's won't install unless the card is in! Gah.


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That's odd. What kind of card is it?
My drivers installed fine (BFG nVidia 7600GS, 512MB) without the card being in.. I still had my old Radeon 9600SE plugged in (no drivers) at the time!

So I'll give it another go, since it's tough to figure out exactly what the problem is without standing beside you.

Anyways, remember the device manager I mentioned earlier?
( Right click my computer -> Properties -> Devices tab -> Device Manager -> Display adapters )
Well get back in there, and instead of disabling the onboard video, right click it and choose Uninstall/Remove, whichever appears. This should uninstall the driver for your onboard display, and force windows to use the default vga driver.

Now you should be able to shut down and put your new video card in, and boot up. You might want to try plugging the monitor into both the onboard and the new video card (one, then the other) in case one of them is working.

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At 10/22/07 05:14 AM, RageOfOrder wrote: lotsa stuff

It's an Nvidia Geforce4 MX420.
Not much of a step up from what I have, but I had it lying around in an unused computer.

And about uninstalling the driver...
I tried that already and had the same problems.

I'll try installing the drivers agaiin...

I downloaded them from a definitely genuine source that time (download.com), except this time it was a batch of drivers... Had like, 10/15 Nvidia drivers, all in one installation, so I figured that for this one the drivers didn't need to be in.
I'll try and put the card in in a bit, or after school... gotta go get ready.


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Well you should always be using the official drivers, from nvidia.com
And seeing as they don't support that model of card anymore, I'd wonder if this is worth it.

Anyway, you should have a specific driver for your card, and nothing else. And it *should* install without the card being present.

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The only reason it's worth it is because I know for a fact that this video card works with Ubuntu, but with my current card the screen gets all fucked up after like, 10 minutes of usage, and someone told me it was probably because of a graphics card overheat.


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Does it boot far enough to get to your boot loader? (Grub)

If not, then it's not a driver issue with either OS, since they won't be loaded yet. It's a hardware issue, related to either a BIOS option, or the possibility that your video card is flaky.

Are you sure the card is in working order?

If it is, there has to be something in your BIOS relating to VGA and when it loads. If you can't find it, I'm going to suggest you just bring it in to a shop and have them install it for you.

If you CAN get to your boot loader and choose either Ubuntu or Windows, then it is a driver issue with windows, and you'll have to find a working driver to install.

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No, I do not get to the bootloader.
So it must just either be a BIOS issue, because I'm positive that the card is in working order.
I'll fuck around with the BIOS again in a bit. Thanks!


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2 questions

1. Whenever I open up a new window it minimizes to the top left corner. It is unclickable and I cannot maximize it. Is there any way to make it so I can see my windows again?

2. I have an iso image of microsoft office. I mounted onto daemon tools and it did not start. I tried alcohol 120 as well. I even copied it onto a dvd but when I put it in nothing happens. Help please...


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At 10/24/07 12:26 PM, sam144boy wrote: 2 questions

1. Whenever I open up a new window it minimizes to the top left corner. It is unclickable and I cannot maximize it. Is there any way to make it so I can see my windows again?

Does this happen for all windows or just some?
Windows XP, Vista, 98?
When did the problem start? Did you install anything new around that time?
Have you run a virus scan? (See my post at the top of this page for a free online scan)
Have you run a spyware scan? (See my post at the top of this page for a free virus scanner)

2. I have an iso image of microsoft office. I mounted onto daemon tools and it did not start. I tried alcohol 120 as well. I even copied it onto a dvd but when I put it in nothing happens. Help please...

Did you pay for it? Is it a legal copy?

I post a header for a reason. It makes everyone's lives easier if you read it and follow the simple guidelines before asking a question.
Thanks.

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hmm well i keep getting error 1303 when i try to install things
tried this advice:

Solution 3: Use the CACLS command to assign full administrator access to the All Users folder. (Windows XP Professional and Home Edition, and 2000)

2. Choose Start > Run, and then type cmd in the Open box. Click OK.

3. Type the following commands; include quotation marks and press Return at the end of each line (also make sure to enter spaces between /T, /E, /C and /G in the third line):

c:

cacls "c:\Documents and Settings\All Users" /T /E /C /G administrators:F

exit

Important: Enter spaces between /T , /E , /C , and /G in the third line)

-well my documents and settings is in the d drive. just a case of replacing c with d right?
but yea i seem to be doing it wrong.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3704/
cmdxf2.jpg

^Daryl R is the administrator account (the only account on this pc).

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5214/
cmdcalcslh0.jpg

^thats not how you type it out is it? =p

so erm can someone show/tell me how i'm supposed to do it? i've tried other ways but =\
(this is probably really simple but i'm just shit at these things =p)

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right well.... i have a virus... uhhhhh my dad refuses to buy something to fix it and uhhh anyways hed rather not download cause our comp is shit... it goes wayyy slow but anyways back to the virus... its ummm a zlob trojan if i rememer correctly (my mom downloaded something to see what viruses we had - than deleted the software without doing shit about the virus *sigh*) right well yeaaaaa.... thats the extent of my knowledge oh and another question, im on my laptop... err dads laptop atm... anyways its got aol/ internet explorer only cause linksys thing connects the comp with the virus to uhh here anyways could the virus follow that path and get on here too? uhh yea well thats all the info ur gettin outta me cause idk shit about the boring aspects of comp life, i stick to runescape and newgrounds (runescape is better btw...) anyways yeaaa also is that a type of virus that can be sent thru e mails? cause i wanna e mail my bf and online friends but i dont want them to get a virus <.<

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yeaa umm i just got a pop up thing saying well stuff about.... ull see... basically since im not allowed to download stuff without my dads say so i cant do anything about this or the above problem atm but im hoping i can convince him to.... so yeaaaa...... i keep getting this pop up every few minutes or so... might be longer but it feels like minutes

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At 10/27/07 01:16 PM, karlu20 wrote: right well.... i have a virus... uhhhhh my dad refuses to buy something to fix it and uhhh anyways hed rather not download cause our comp is shit... it goes wayyy slow but anyways back to the virus... its ummm a zlob trojan if i rememer correctly (my mom downloaded something to see what viruses we had - than deleted the software without doing shit about the virus *sigh*) right well yeaaaaa.... thats the extent of my knowledge

Just get AVG and remove it. You haven't stated what it's actually doing wrong, though the most obvious symptom is generic slowdown.

oh and another question, im on my laptop... err dads laptop atm... anyways its got aol/ internet explorer only cause linksys thing connects the comp with the virus to uhh here anyways could the virus follow that path and get on here too? uhh yea well thats all the info ur gettin outta me cause idk shit about the boring aspects of comp life, i stick to runescape and newgrounds anyways

You don't need to put onomatopoeia in your post. Try explaining things more clearly.

From what I can gather, you're suspecting that the virus could move down a proxy/basestation ("linksys thing"; I don't know much about specific models) and into a laptop? Possibly, but if you download AVG or another anti-virus program you could get rid of it anyway.

yeaaa also is that a type of virus that can be sent thru e mails? cause i wanna e mail my bf and online friends but i dont want them to get a virus <.<

Possibly, again, remove the virus before doing anything else. As a Trojan I seriously doubt it could.

This thread has links all over it about useful software. You could try reading some of the first page posts before asking a question, and you might find it was already answered.

(runescape is better btw...)

lol wut?

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Right, I'm stopping this here.

This isn't a chat topic, this is one post at a time topic explaining your computer troubles. You did not need to post 6 (SIX!!) times.

DO NOT, under any circumstances, turn this topic in to shit. I am thoroughly pissed off with the both of you.

Right, your solution. Even though I don't even know what it is even more since you've decided to get all chatty.

Want a solution to malware problems? Back up, and format.

Honestly, don't even waste your time with anti-anything these days. The fact is, when you're using software to detect (malicious) software, obviously there can be (and invariably are) issues with that.

The fact is, you don't know what damage this malware is doing to your system, especially with new and more powerful kits on the Internet which can easily turn off any Anti-virus and firewall, and can go by, quite easily in fact, undetected. Just think, if your software firewall can hook on to the kernel to detect traffic flowing from your system, so can any piece of software with malicious intent.

This is the reason I do not use AV or a software firewall, because it's now getting to the stage where it's just pointless.

Get yourself a router, which is an excellent hardware firewall. And because it's hardware independent of your actual PC, it can't be infected as easily, if at all.

Once you've been infected with something like this, you have to ask yourself "Can I trust this system again?" The answer should always be 'no'.


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Ok, this is only slightly related because it's electronics, but I was hoping someone reading this would have the know-how or the links to how to do this:

Problem: How to connect 4 xbox 360's to one screen and have it split into 4 playing all 4 movies, possibly without sound, but I'd rather merge it if possible. Essentially, I'm trying to wire them into a movie projector so that I can have 16 people playing on one screen. I don't know if this is possible or if any of you know how to do it, but this is the where is/how to forum.

Suggestions please.

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wow hes cranky... right so does any1 wanna explain - in laymens terms - wtf im sposed to do bout the virus thing??? remember in laymens terms cause viruses? virus'? ...w\e u know what i mean... arent exactly my strong suit anyways yeaaaaaaa sowwie cranky guy *puppy dog eyes* there now u cant be cranky :p

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At 10/28/07 06:15 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Problem: How to connect 4 xbox 360's to one screen and have it split into 4 playing all 4 movies, possibly without sound, but I'd rather merge it if possible.

I'm not an electronics expert, but just the purely on the logistics side of things, that sounds damn near impossible to me. I'm sure there is the technology out there, consider you can have TVs with picture in picture (PIP). However, where do you even start to look for that kind of stuff? Even when you do find it, I imagine the cost of it will be running in to the thousands of dollars.

I've tried some Google bombing, I've tried finding some software, I have no answer sadly. I will look in to more tomorrow, though.

At 10/28/07 06:54 PM, karlu20 wrote: wow hes cranky...

I'm cranky because of impatient people who feel the need to come in here and talk about Runescape, for literally no apparent reason. I'm also cranky because you obviously didn't read my post, which clearly explained what you had to do. In fact, here's the first sentence:

"Want a solution to malware problems? Back up, and format..."

Followed by a detailed and reasoned explanation.

Basically, delete everything on your harddrive, and reinstall Windows and start again.

If you can't do that, I have written a guide on Malware removal. Which if you just looked at the top of the page, you would have found.


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At 10/28/07 07:06 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: I'm not an electronics expert, but just the purely on the logistics side of things, that sounds damn near impossible to me. I'm sure there is the technology out there, consider you can have TVs with picture in picture (PIP). However, where do you even start to look for that kind of stuff? Even when you do find it, I imagine the cost of it will be running in to the thousands of dollars.

I've tried some Google bombing, I've tried finding some software, I have no answer sadly. I will look in to more tomorrow, though.

I'm pretty sure I know what I'd have to do, and it's unfortunate that it's soo expensive. I'd pretty much need to write some software, or get a good player, upgrand an old desktop of mine to have a better graphics card, give it ports for the 360, a chip to interact with the tv and then get it more ram. It's completely doable, but way to expensive, especially since the theater is going to be 400 for 3 hours. So this probably won't happen.

We were going to play 16 player halo at the movies. Oh well.

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omfg ffs its not malware its something else... wow ur all dense... *sigh* i was on aol a while ago it was being stupid so i tryed internet explorer and it said malware.. blah blah blah... i forget how but we got rid of it but in doing so we did a virus scan and it said we have a "zlob trojan" and *that* not malware is what im talking about. *sigh* understand??? because idk how much more detailed i can get considering i know very little about it

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At 10/30/07 07:05 PM, karlu20 wrote: omfg ffs its not malware its something else...

This.

wow ur all dense... *sigh* i was on aol a while ago it was being stupid so i tryed internet explorer and it said malware

Contradicts this.

.. blah blah blah... i forget how but we got rid of it but in doing so we did a virus scan and it said we have a "zlob trojan" and *that* not malware is what im talking about.

Any piece of software that has malicious intent is considered malware. I don't know if you noticed this, but the first three letters of "MALicious" are also the same three letters of MALware. Coincidence? Let's get Morse on the case.

because idk how much more detailed i can get considering i know very little about it.

And it's this.... very.... uhhh. OMFG.... reasun.,,,, that we...ohhhh.... uhh...... cant... errm.... help..... u.....


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Hey DHT, thanks for comin back, it's nice to know I'm not the only one watching this place, even if it does get the occasional (or common) idiot. I've also been getting behind on my Windows usage. It's been over a month now since I last used windows, and I've only used Vista ever for a week, so I lack the knowledge of its unique ins and outs vs XP or older.

Anyways, I've got a question. Mostly an opinion question about my next hardware upgrade.

I built my machine in February of 2005 and the only thing I've changed (besides adding two more hard drives) is the video card. So in the next couple months I need to make a major upgrade or two, and I'm wondering what you think would be the best move.

I have currently:
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (1.8GHz 64bit) processor
MSI K8T Neo2 motherboard (I think it's a socket 939) with capacity for 4GB of RAM
BFG nVidia 7600GS 512MB video card
Three hard drives: 80GB seagate sata, 200GB western digital sata, 320GB seagate IDE
550Watt Okia power supply
2x512MB OCZ DDR1 RAM

I don't really do games very often, but I do run a 3d accelerated window manager under linux, and I'd like to be able to boot linux and emulate Windows (integrated with my KDE desktop) without any major performance losses.

So I'm considering upgrading to a quad-core AMD processor when they are released, and if I don't have to replace the motherboard, adding a gig of RAM.

Or, selling my current ram and upgrading to 2GB of some faster DDR2 ram.

Since emulation splits my resources in half essentially, I'd like to have at least an extra core for work on both operating systems simultaneously. 2 per OS would be excellent. But at the same time, I can't run much in terms of graphical environments with only 512MB per OS.

Your thoughts?

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if ur lazy and dont wanna read this all just scroll down and read the last uhh few lines...

.......zlob trojan... thats as detailed as i can fing get... *sigh* understand? ffs idfk what a trojan does all i know is its bad and that anti virus demo said we should get rid of it but nooo that would involve buying the anti virus stuff... but just fing tell me how to get rid of it for free so i can start playing runescape again (im on strike from the good comp downstairs till its gone... and i kinda wanna play runescape - an mmorpg - b4 the halloween event goes bye bye) yeaa in any case... zlob trojan... cant u figure out something from that? pwease? *puppy dog eyes* anyways since u ppl r cranky and dont seem to fall for puppy dog eyes welll yeaaa.... pretty please with uhhhh *insert something - id say human kindness but as of late, past 5 months, ive noticed most humans are a little short on that - thatll get u to help me* on top?

btw that thing about human kindness isnt meant to be saying u, its just uhh im in a depression and well not goin into details but lets just say i dun have the best life =/ yea well best synopsis is my best friends and bf are all rs based and i really miss them (been w/o em since june)

right well its a zlob trojan as ive said b4 thats all i know about it. there i kept it short. uhh sorta...

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