first combat casualty in Iraq

[mysecondstar]

a US marine has been confirmed killed in Umm Qasr, Iraq in a battle to take the port city. that is on top of the 4 US flight crew and 8 British commandos in a helicopter crash just across the Iraqi-Kuwaiti border. now, i don't know about you guys, but i hope to God that those killed so far aren't anyone i know. also i feel for those that have just lost their sons or daughters so far in this war.

my prayers to you all.

[JMHX]

What are the confirmed totals now? 12 British and 6 Americans died in that crash? Man, helicopters are very unreliable, especially those Black Hawks that keep crashing for no reason at all.

[mysecondstar]

it was actually a chinook. those have been around since Vietnam. and the official from the Pentagon is 8 British, 4 US.

[D2Kvirus]

At 3/21/03 08:50 AM, mysecondstar wrote: it was actually a chinook. those have been around since Vietnam. and the official from the Pentagon is 8 British, 4 US.

Thge official line from Downing Street is that 200,000 Brits died in that helicopter crash, and that is the most horrific event that will ever happen in this conflict (of interests).

That's how Blair spoke about it, anyway.

[bumcheekcity]

to be honest i couldn't care less if the whole US and UK military got killed tomorrow. anyone who signs up for a job that involves shooting people has got to have his or her head checked, in my opinion.

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 3/21/03 08:50 AM, mysecondstar wrote: it was actually a chinook. those have been around since Vietnam. and the official from the Pentagon is 8 British, 4 US.

I can see it now, a hollywood action/drama where the surviving members of a downed helicopter struggle to survive in an incredibly hostile environment...wait a minute...*scratches head*

[Zapman]

i heard about that and i am sorry. my prayers go out to the families of those men. at least those men were killed in a crash and were not shot by Iraqi. a guy across the street from me flies blackhawks and i thought it was him. it isnt.

[Jimsween]

8 British, 4 Americans killed in the crash, 2 marines were killed later during combat. So far they say the helicopter crashed because of bad weather the 2 marines were the only actual combat deaths.

[Taors]

At 3/21/03 12:57 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: to be honest i couldn't care less if the whole US and UK military got killed tomorrow. anyone who signs up for a job that involves shooting people has got to have his or her head checked, in my opinion.

What are the US and UK supposed to do? Not have a military? You're an idiot.

[TheloniousMONK]

At 3/21/03 12:57 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: to be honest i couldn't care less if the whole US and UK military got killed tomorrow. anyone who signs up for a job that involves shooting people has got to have his or her head checked, in my opinion.

To be honest, I could not care less if you died. Get it through your head, they do not want to kill them, but if they did not, then things could get out of hand. If it were not for men and women in ages past like them, you and I would probably never have been born.

[JudgeDredd]

At 3/21/03 01:03 PM, Ruination wrote:
I can see it now, a hollywood action/drama where the surviving members of a downed helicopter struggle to survive in an incredibly hostile environment...wait a minute...*scratches head*

I can see it now, a million aviation designers *scratching heads* .."hang on these helicopters are a dumb idea, they're trying to fly fast and low thru sand-storms, and if you jump out of the damn things, you get utterly shredded by rotor blades"...

[mysecondstar]

At 3/21/03 12:57 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: to be honest i couldn't care less if the whole US and UK military got killed tomorrow. anyone who signs up for a job that involves shooting people has got to have his or her head checked, in my opinion.

in my opinion, i think you need to have YOUR head checked. these men and women are out there to protect our country. you obviously don't know anyone in the thick of it. you think you are anti-war. but you're just as bad as saddam is. you obviously have no regard for life.

and it's called rules of engagement. do not engage unless engaged upon. simply put it means your can't shoot them unless they shoot at you. God you just don't understand anything.

[Taors]

Most people don't think "Oh, I'm going to join the military so I can shoot and kill lots and lots of people! Woohoo!" before they join the military.

This kid needs to wake up.

[Slizor]

and it's called rules of engagement. do not engage unless engaged upon. simply put it means your can't shoot them unless they shoot at you. God you just don't understand anything.

Clearly these rules are never followed or else there would be no wars. In fact, if it wasn't for George Bush "engaging" Saddam then there wouldn't be a war.

Wow, that's amazing! There have be no Iraqi deaths! None! Well....I haven't heard of any and if they give this much coverage to 14 guys then they would do the same for the Iraqis...wouldn't they!?

[D2Kvirus]

At 3/21/03 09:47 PM, jazz_mazter wrote: Get it through your head, they do not want to kill them, but if they did not, then things could get out of hand. If it were not for men and women in ages past like them, you and I would probably never have been born.

Which brings us nicely to the latest "incident". The US shot down a fighter today, then realised "Oh shit, wasn't that an RAF Tornado?"

A sad state of affairs when the "Allied" armed "forces" have had greater losses than the Iraqis. Does that mean they're technically winning this thing by a couple of Field Goals?

[NEMESiSZ]

A plane isn't worth as many points as...destroying every compound in the capital city to the point where the government ceases to function.

[Imp-beast]

I keep wondering about this death. People do die in a war. I also heard one of ours freaked and turned on his troop. Thwo brit choppers clashed and blew.
some soldiers were knocked from the sky and shot as they parachuted. I agree this was all too necesary or
these cowards would continue attacking civilians. I mean
C'mon even the japanesse who made a surprse attack of pearl harbor attacked the military. It sucked but it had honor. Saddam rules by fear and he must be stopped.
a war with out casualties just in't a war so I pray
in the stead of blaming america who helps other shitty countries and still gets insulted.
in the least lets pray for both leaders to get common sence and stop this garbage... that or nuke Irak oooor
Put the real Saddam and Bush in an arena and let them duke it out to the death. I find the last one way more sensible in it's own childish way.

[D2Kvirus]

At 3/23/03 10:16 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote: A plane isn't worth as many points as...destroying every compound in the capital city to the point where the government ceases to function.

Yeah, but it only took out a part of the Pentagon, not the whole thing. Sorry, were you talking about something else?

[JMHX]

At 3/23/03 10:11 AM, D2KVirus wrote:

At 3/21/03 09:47 PM, jazz_mazter wrote:

A sad state of affairs when the "Allied" armed "forces" have had greater losses than the Iraqis. Does that mean they're technically winning this thing by a couple of Field Goals?

We don't have greater losses than the Iraqis. We were forced to "deal with" 100 or so outside Umm Qasr. We've only lost a few dozen, which is still too much for a senseless war.