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Reading Rainbow 2003-03-19 23:20:46 Reply

Over the last few days, i've encountered some engaging titles of books i shall read within a few months. Those cited include:

1984
Art of War
Communist Manifesto
On War
and the list continues.....

let this topic be a place to share your favorite political works and their impact on today's political society. I'm sure it's already been done before.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-19 23:22:30 Reply

The Prince by Machi... Maciv... Mach..

Mokivelli

ugh damn words


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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-19 23:24:16 Reply

At 3/19/03 11:22 PM, TheShrike wrote: The Prince by Machi... Maciv... Mach..

Mokivelli

ugh damn words

no hard feelings, it's spelled Machiavelli(at least i hope)

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-19 23:24:53 Reply

At 3/19/03 11:22 PM, TheShrike wrote: The Prince by [...]

I suggest that because it is a good read, and short. Pardons to Mr Mach.. Mak.. MAcc... Machi... aww fuggit


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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-19 23:27:25 Reply

it's interesting because i'm familiar with the works and the concepts but i haven't taken the time i should have actually reading them and drawing my own conclusions.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-19 23:51:55 Reply

Hmmm... I also suggest Hyperion Cantos By Dan Simmons.
It is relatively new, as well as sci-fi. It's the first two volumes (and the only good ones) in the Hyperion narrative.

Now, Why suggest sci-fi? Well 1984 is sci-fi it's just a good commentary on life, politics, technology, and religion. As well as greed.
Plus it's entertaining if you can get past the first two chapters.

Here's a little link that has a seriously shortened account of the series. http://www.io.com/~lawrence/hyperion.html

You'll probably never read it, but it's a damn good book.


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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 17:15:44 Reply

What about Brave New World by Aldous Huxley?

Another interesting treatise on the topic of Utopia, and the politics and lifestyle that ensue from it.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 21:04:48 Reply

If anyone is reading The Lord of the Rings trilogy, Tolkien wrote most of the battles based on his experiences in World War 1. Many of his close friends died in combat. Just a little tidbit of information if you didn't know.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 21:09:37 Reply

At 3/20/03 09:04 PM, Taors wrote: If anyone is reading The Lord of the Rings trilogy, Tolkien wrote most of the battles based on his experiences in World War 1. Many of his close friends died in combat. Just a little tidbit of information if you didn't know.

Ive read the trilogy + the Hobbit 3 times. When I first heard that the story was parallel to WWI it clicked. Ahh to be an elve.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 21:12:57 Reply

I currently have a copy of Brave New World and a collection of George Orwell's complete works sitting on my bed, and I intend to read them both before returning to part 10 in Robert Jordan's series, which I heartily reccomend. The Wheel of Time series, beginning with The Eye of the World, continuing with The Great Hunt.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 21:38:43 Reply

yeah, i tend to put Orwell and Huxley's work side by side to create a good analysis of the scientific future of government.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 21:47:06 Reply

Have you ever read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury? I can see our society headed in that direction. I'm not only talking about the repression, but also the vapidity of Mildred and the majority of society.

My professor assigned the book to us. It's my third time reading it. He told us to look for parallels to Stalinism, and they're there, but I see it as more of a commentary on society than anything else.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 21:48:27 Reply

I've heard plenty about that book but i forget if that's about the government that burns books?

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 22:07:12 Reply

All great books as far as I can see, but make sure you read "Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau. Its more of an essay than a book, but its one of my favorite readings.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 22:08:38 Reply

At 3/20/03 10:07 PM, VasIndustries wrote: All great books as far as I can see, but make sure you read "Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau. Its more of an essay than a book, but its one of my favorite readings.

i've read parts of it in class, however, i not the biggest fan of trancendentalism.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 22:38:08 Reply

At 3/20/03 09:48 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: I've heard plenty about that book but i forget if that's about the government that burns books?

It is, and it's set somewhere in the US.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 22:46:05 Reply

At 3/20/03 10:38 PM, Rydia_Lockheart wrote:
It is, and it's set somewhere in the US.

It's not really "set" anywhere, but Thoreau lived and wrote in Massachusetts and it is often the backdrop for his essays. It's an excellent work and you can read it here.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 23:00:49 Reply

You guys are all liberals, so you'd love Das Kapital.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 23:10:29 Reply

At 3/20/03 11:00 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: You guys are all liberals, so you'd love Das Kapital.

Now that is an broad and unwarranted generalization, although it is mostly true. A few, (such as me), are not.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-20 23:26:42 Reply

Seriously, there's maybe three people here including me who aren't willing to die to stop the war in iraq.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 00:03:52 Reply

LORD OF THE FLIES!!!

"Sucks to your ass-mar."

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 00:04:47 Reply

HAHAHA, that book is the 0wn

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 02:18:54 Reply

No one has same a thing about The Art of War! What is with you people!? Sun Tzu's writing are no dobut the best thing things to come out of China! What are your thoughs on the book?

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 06:37:03 Reply

At 3/20/03 11:26 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Seriously, there's maybe three people here including me who aren't willing to die to stop the war in iraq.

i guess i'm number three.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 06:38:27 Reply

At 3/21/03 02:18 AM, MuscleHed wrote: No one has same a thing about The Art of War! What is with you people!? Sun Tzu's writing are no dobut the best thing things to come out of China! What are your thoughs on the book?

The Art of War is an excellent book. although it doesn't have much to do with books regarding government or the future of government.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 07:11:28 Reply

I'm not willing to die to stop the war.
Hell, I'm not willing to even debate about stopping it any more. I won't talk about my opinions on it in this thread, but they're changing.

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 08:31:54 Reply

At 3/20/03 09:38 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: yeah, i tend to put Orwell and Huxley's work side by side to create a good analysis of the scientific future of government.

Well, Orwell seems to be right on the money so far. Communist Manifesto is good, but it tends to ramble. If you want to see REAL ranting and raving, however, pick up Mein Kampf or Chairman Mao's Little Red Book.


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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 09:45:48 Reply

There was a discussion of banned books on the old BBS, and several good books were mentioned that you might like to look into.


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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 14:04:16 Reply

Stupid White Men by Michael Moore

more of a left-wing book, that one

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Response to Reading Rainbow 2003-03-21 14:40:40 Reply

You guys are all liberals, so you'd love Das Kapital.

You do know that a Liberal does not have to be left-wing? They are in fact, around center and can be a little to the left or right. Very very far away from the like who would read Das Kapital.

As for books I recommend No Logo by Naomi Klein which is a pretty light book and "Manufacturing Consent" By Noam Chomsky, which is heavier but very good.