In Defense of Flamed Ganguro Fans

[NoNameProphet]

"WTF! THIS IS SUCH SH*T! YOU PEOPLE ARE TOTAL LOSER-NERDS WITH NO LIVES AND NO GIRLFRIENDS! HAHAHA YOU SUCK! I HAVE A LIFE!"

A sentence like the one seen above is the kind of thing you might see in the reviews of Ganguro Girl. Or at least it's what I found when I first checked it out. It's luck I found it, but I am glad I did as it bothered me enough to start this topic. This topic basically is setting out to prove that
*These type of games can be appreciated for gameplay and 'perversion', and even when the latter is the reason, it should be treated with a bit more compassion*

Let me start off by saying that while I really didn't enjoy that game too much, I am able to recognize that there are more reasons for the game's popularity than the opening sentence would lead you to believe.

- *Girls* and Guys have shown appreciation for its coding and gameplay. They usually do not cherish the 'ending scenes', but you don't need to agree with everything in a movie. It can be taken in many different ways, just like religion, music lyrics... ect.

- While there wasn't really any good story (events or twists) to this game in my opinion, other games of this type, even Hentai-Games, have proven that such a thing is possible. There are many which are just pointless sexfests yes, but there are different styles of games in this genre, just like any other. In that sense too, how would sexfests be any different from the practically worshipped (by the macho guy community =P) hardcore porno. Some people brag about what they do and have seen.

Sure it's a "cartoon" but you need to realize that the Japanese economy grew up in a different situation from others. Movies and videos weren't as easy to create there as it is elsewhere. That's why manga (Japanese comics) and Anime have been so strong in their culture. Just don't bash it before you learn to understand it's history and why it happened.

- YES there are some that fit your bill, but even those people do not deserve such harsh judgement. Not everyone has life easy, some people DO have problems getting girlfriends, or feel really lonely, and you need to show compassion for those people... not strike them down even further. That's the kind of thing you do if you want to kill them. Just because they aren't reacting to problems in ways you think is proper, it doesn't make it a total abomination.

Why do people say these things? Well for some it makes them feel better, stronger, or even cooler to trash those with problems or doing things the majority would not agree with. I don't think it's very cool to bash people like that though.

I am just asking humanity for something called respect and kindness towards others. We don't get alot of that in the world, so every little bit helps. Just because the world 'isn't a kind place' and that cruelty will always be present, doesn't mean that we should give in and just embrace aggression.

If you don't like those kinds of people, then just don't say anything. It's not like what they're doing hurts people. Unlike kiddy porn, this is only cartoons, there are much 'greater evils'.
Please, just a little empathy is all I ask for.

( Try to read all I said before you disagree with me, 'nother little request ^_^; )

[Denis-Leary]

At 3/19/03 09:36 PM, NoNameProphet wrote: If you don't like those kinds of people, then just don't say anything. It's not like what they're doing hurts people. Unlike kiddy porn, this is only cartoons, there are much 'greater evils'.
Please, just a little empathy is all I ask for.

( Try to read all I said before you disagree with me, 'nother little request ^_^; )

Well I will reply if no one else will. Intelligence is ignored most of the time here on the bbs, because the people that make the statements(like your example) will never see this. What is the main reason? Well the reason is they do not like too read long txt. If they did they would defend themselves better then "yous is gay bitch boy".

I agree with your statements. This goes along with my statement about the people who say dbz=gay porn. Why do they post that all the time if they hate it soo much? I mean any topic that starts with dbz ends up a flame war. You hate it thats fine, saying dbz=gay porn, will make people who do not know what dbz is look at it more because it is being talked about alot even if the talk is bad. a persons thought "I do not know what dbz is but is these guys hate it soo much maybe it is something I should check out before I say i hate it too." good job you just made someone watch dbz and now they may like it(they may not like it also, but your goal is to whipe dbz away. why would you take the chance that someone may like it? Because you did not think that is why.).

[NoNameProphet]

At 3/19/03 10:33 PM, RedSpellCaster wrote:

:Intelligence is ignored most of the time here on the bbs, because the people that make the statements(like your example) will never see this.

Heh, I try to read back on my posts to see what people think (I wouldn't spend all that time trying writing it to just ignore it), and I try to hunt for posts where topic names suggest a well-defended opinion. Usually you'll find it in new/rare ideas...

You can make an assumption off a topic called "dbz sux teh ballz" and "DBZ-Good concept stretched too far". =P

:(they may not like it also, but your goal is to whipe dbz away. why would you take the chance that someone may like it? Because you did not think that is why.).

To sum up everything you said quickly for everyone, if you want something to be forgotten, don't bring attention to it.
_____
If at least one person learns from this then it's worth it. They might spread it by defending others at other times too. =P

[NoNameProphet]

Oh, and for the reason you stated above, I am kinda waiting for someone to come in here and dispute me. That way a convo-fire can be started and I get some attention at least, lol.

We can only hope. =P

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you can rate reviews now, so just click abusive and move on.

you can also email wade for a more direct approach.

posting here isnt going to stop them.

[HardcoreChristmas]

I don't like it because it breaks NG's rule of "excessive pornography" but I guess if you put a bunch of worthless shit and passwords it's OK, and I also don't like it becuase it's an exact copy of Sim Girl. Just better graphics and "ending scenes".

[NoNameProphet]

At 3/19/03 11:35 PM, MyNamesShadow wrote: you can rate reviews now, so just click abusive and move on.

you can also email wade for a more direct approach.

posting here isnt going to stop them.

Oh the purpose isn't to get rid of those abusive reviews already there, most of them have already been taken down anyway! (Woot for the system)

I don't need to contact Wade to delete anything, just the people. But if Wade would do something to spread a message faster than this, then maybe I could try it. Heh. But I am sure he's got better things to do.... That's why I try to handle it alone =P

[NemoX]

bravo!
it's nice to see smart and nice people still exist here in the BBS.

you just earned my respect.

remember to

Spread the love!
:-)

[format]

well posting about it on the forums wont stop shit. it's like, yeah they are all online, right now.

[NoNameProphet]

At 3/19/03 11:41 PM, ShadowCenterWall wrote: well posting about it on the forums wont stop shit. it's like, yeah they are all online, right now.

Yeah yeah, well, I gained someone's respect so that's cool. and...

OMG, that cat is almost CRIMINALLY cute! Lol. *tries to pet it* Nuts.

[AvocadoClock]

I remember arguing about hentai's ability to be more than just porn material on the clock crew BBS... and I got flamed to Hell and back, lol.

[MAYORMCHEESE]

I could never figure out Ganguro. Either I sucked at dating sims or it was cheating on me.

Me; 'Hi'
Girl: 'Get lost'
Me: 'Look! A DVD!!'
Girl: 'Get lost'
Me: 'Bitch'
Girl: 'Get lost'

It's Harvest Moon for me.....

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I have never played ganguro girl. I find that it will most likely be a wast of my time.

[Denis-Leary]

well I have not seen one "dumb" person post here yet. you have given reasons for your statements, and in my book that makes you smart and respectable.

Thanks NoNameProphet for summing up what I said. I tend to get wordy when I post about....Well I guess I will call them "those people". Yeah I discriminate against dumbness and always accept kindness. I have yet to not accept a person who says they are sorry so those people should not think I am out to only get them.(does not want to be a hipocrit so stops giving them attention, because they may do it again, or someone else may start. :P )

[redruM]

At 3/19/03 11:41 PM, ShadowCenterWall wrote: well posting about it on the forums wont stop shit. it's like, yeah they are all online, right now.

Perhaps not everyone he'd like will see it, but a good number will nonetheless. I'm a perfect example of why his topic is a success, I managed to read it by luck, but was pleased to find he shares almost an exact opinion on the matter as I do.

I'm happy just to find one person who shares an opinion with me and can see where I'm coming from, because that generally means there has to be more. I hope he views it the same way when he sees my reply to this post agreeing with him.

Yes btw, it is very nice to see people around the bbs once in a while who display more than just a SHRED of intelligence.

[NemoX]

At 3/19/03 11:47 PM, digimonsucksass wrote: I could never figure out Ganguro. Either I sucked at dating sims or it was cheating on me.

Me; 'Hi'
Girl: 'Get lost'
Me: 'Look! A DVD!!'
Girl: 'Get lost'
Me: 'Bitch'
Girl: 'Get lost'

It's Harvest Moon for me.....

you DO know you had to build your stats first right?
i.e., raise your CHARM helps, strenghth never hurst having some, and studying...well, some girls like smart people in real life, why not try it in the game?

[MAYORMCHEESE]

At 3/19/03 11:53 PM, NemoX wrote:

you DO know you had to build your stats first right?
i.e., raise your CHARM helps, strenghth never hurst having some, and studying...well, some girls like smart people in real life, why not try it in the game?

Yeah I tried that too. Maybe I didn't raise all of my stats right, oh well I suck at the 'stat' games i.e. dating sims and The Sims.

[ZombieLennon]

At 3/19/03 11:37 PM, Lpmofo wrote: I don't like it because it breaks NG's rule of "excessive pornography" but I guess if you put a bunch of worthless shit and passwords it's OK, and I also don't like it becuase it's an exact copy of Sim Girl. Just better graphics and "ending scenes".

You're joking right? It breaks NG's rule of excessive pornography? This is newgrounds. The original bad boy site where you kill celeberties. That kind of shit is light compared to stuff that's been on here before

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At 3/19/03 11:37 PM, Lpmofo wrote: I don't like it because it breaks NG's rule of "excessive pornography"

excessive pornography is like a porno movie imported into flash, not self drawn stuff in a game.

[Ozcar]

I like the Ganguro Girl... was the firts Sim Date that I played... Was Funny, and that's all, I don't use this kind of games like a live way...

I make another dressup, wasn't better than Ganguro Girl, but I'm doing my best :)

[MetaphorcE]

At 3/19/03 11:59 PM, wafflemeister wrote: You're joking right? It breaks NG's rule of excessive pornography? This is newgrounds. The original bad boy site where you kill celeberties. That kind of shit is light compared to stuff that's been on here before

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=5292

[NoNameProphet]

At 3/20/03 12:10 AM, evilSan wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=5292

Ewwwwww....... but I wouldn't say "take it off it's evil". Only see it if you want to, or if you're curious as to how sick newgrounds can get, Lol.

Even though you'd have to go pretty low for me to say it's totally untolerable. I probably would have given that a 1 or a 2 because it was sick uninteractive bashing, but I just wouldn't vote on that kinda genre because I'd be biased. I don't really enjoy it as much as parodies, satires, or random-yet lighter humor.

Hey I gave Link's Quest for Ass 2 a good rating, and it was sick, yet really funny if you can stomach it.

[Denis-Leary]

At 3/20/03 12:10 AM, evilSan wrote:

At 3/19/03 11:59 PM, wafflemeister wrote: You're joking right? It breaks NG's rule of excessive pornography? This is newgrounds. The original bad boy site where you kill celeberties. That kind of shit is light compared to stuff that's been on here before

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=5292

This is a prime example why there is a rateing system. It should not be taken off, but if the rateing said everyone and the artist refused to change it then yes it should be taken off. What they mean by "excessive" is no point porn that the artist imported from a movie file.

[NoNameProphet]

At 3/19/03 11:37 PM, Lpmofo wrote: I don't like it because it breaks NG's rule of "excessive pornography" but I guess if you put a bunch of worthless shit and passwords it's OK, and I also don't like it becuase it's an exact copy of Sim Girl. Just better graphics and "ending scenes".

Well, it was kinda intended to be a copy of SimGirl. They've said that there were elements they liked in it, and they were sad that simgirl wasn't completed. Which is why you find similarities.

Oh and from what I've heard the full version adds no new features, just 2 more girls that look almost the same anyway =P Not worth a penny.

Not even a Canadian penny. Ouch. That's harsh. =P

[the-unknown-soldier]

you said about japanese aconomy. give it ten years and everyone will be talking about the japanese aconomy. it will crash so hard. lol recession for 10 years how pathetic