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At 3/5/08 03:26 AM, Paranoia wrote: Why even go to all that trouble? Just slap a random number at the start of your file name:

Since we're just dealing with kids who probably won't want to go through 10000 possible file names to nosey on peoples' stuff, that should be ample.

If you want real protection, your best bet is to avoid free upload sites entirely.

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PAss-my-Flash 2 is out!

Congratulations Luis and the rest of you, this one seems to be as much, if not more of a hit as the last one!

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At 3/5/08 05:05 AM, GuyWithHisComp wrote:
At 3/5/08 03:26 AM, Paranoia wrote: Why even go to all that trouble? Just slap a random number at the start of your file name:
What if thousands of people upload a file with the same file-name (like untitled.swf)?
It'd bound to get the same name once. You should use time instead. Then you'll always get a unique id that noone can guess.

OK, you win :P Although time plus a few random digits would probably give you the best of both worlds - like 080503853 for something uploaded today, with the last three digits just random.

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At 3/5/08 10:29 AM, Paranoia wrote: OK, you win :P Although time plus a few random digits would probably give you the best of both worlds - like 080503853 for something uploaded today, with the last three digits just random.

But then you have the same problem, because then if a thousand files are uploaded, two will share the same name. This is why I suggested Date + MD5

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At 3/5/08 10:53 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:
At 3/5/08 10:29 AM, Paranoia wrote: OK, you win :P Although time plus a few random digits would probably give you the best of both worlds - like 080503853 for something uploaded today, with the last three digits just random.
But then you have the same problem, because then if a thousand files are uploaded, two will share the same name. This is why I suggested Date + MD5

Only if a thousand files are uploaded, all with exactly the same name (the file name would be added after the id number - 325235252_blah.swf), on the same day, and you can always add extra characters for time so they'd have to be uploaded in the same minute.

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At 3/5/08 10:53 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: But then you have the same problem, because then if a thousand files are uploaded, two will share the same name. This is why I suggested Date + MD5

time() in php gets the date in seconds so unless 1000 people upload with the exact same filename at the exact same second there'll be no problem. :)

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At 3/5/08 10:53 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: But then you have the same problem, because then if a thousand files are uploaded, two will share the same name. This is why I suggested Date + MD5

Like my uploader :D! Who can tell i didn't code it? :P
Talking of uploaders, me and UnknownFury are working on something... very very useful ;).
Coming soon.

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At 3/5/08 10:05 AM, Senti wrote: PAss-my-Flash 2 is out!

Congratulations Luis and the rest of you, this one seems to be as much, if not more of a hit as the last one!

It was noice. Only needed more grim reaper.. Nah j/k good job all. A step up from part 1.

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OR YOU COULD JUST USE MY FUNCTION WHICH WORKS PURRFECT B)


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At 3/5/08 01:29 PM, liaaaam wrote: OR YOU COULD JUST USE MY FUNCTION WHICH WORKS PURRFECT B)

But that'd just kill the discussion and we're so temptingly close to 1K pages :P

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Preloader Games Break US Copyright

http://kotaku.com/364141/should-video-ga me-patents-be-legal

Apparently way back when, Namco laid down the patent for "minigames that play while the game is loading" and got it passed. So if you plan on using one, you better contact Namco to get permission to do so... it is in their patent rights.

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At 3/5/08 02:05 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Preloader Games Break US Copyright

That's probably one of the most ridiculous arguments out there. What makes it wrong creating a minigame as the game itself loads. I honestly think that's kinda exclusive to only Namco. Why in the world will it be illegal? Okay it may be similar to RidgeRacer or whatever, but still -- I don't quite believe they created the whole idea. That's like saying the person that invented the computer can sue all the other computer manufactures since he created the first one, and so forth.

It's an edgy situation, but probably one of the most ridiculous ones as well.

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At 3/5/08 02:05 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Apparently way back when, Namco laid down the patent for "minigames that play while the game is loading" and got it passed. So if you plan on using one, you better contact Namco to get permission to do so... it is in their patent rights.

That's the stupidest thing I ever heard :s I doubt it can ever stand up in court.

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Actually if they have a legal document, then they are in their full right to sue other companies who use loader games.

I doubt they care about the amateur flash makers though

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At 3/5/08 02:42 PM, AloneInTheDark wrote: Actually if they have a legal document, then they are in their full right to sue other companies who use loader games.

Even so, the prospect of response from the media (assuming the media cares enough about blatant and unjust abuse of patents) and consumers should be enough to prevent them from actually enforcing it. I mean, I've never used a preloader game, but I could well have done, and I've never even heard of this patent before, so I'd have been going against the patent without even knowing it :s

I mean, who the fuck would expect to have to check if there was a patent for loader games? I mean seriously! That's like having a patent on bar or percentage loaders, or platformers! It's such an obvious concept - there's no way anyone in their right mind would think there might be a patent on something like that.

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Luis disappeared...

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Official patents expire in 7 years, so unless Namco remembered that enough to renew it then you shouldn't worry.


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At 3/5/08 03:06 PM, GuyWithHisComp wrote: Luis disappeared...

I was annoyed at how blury my pic came out.. i couldnt be bothered to to fix it.

You snooze you lose.

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Are we getting a pass my flash 3 luis? :3

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At 3/5/08 02:20 PM, Rudy wrote:
At 3/5/08 02:05 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Preloader Games Break US Copyright
That's probably one of the most ridiculous arguments out there.

No way man, Namco is smart for getting a patent for something like this. If you've learned anything about this history of animation you'll know that the people who got patents were the ones who's companies grew the biggest snd became most successful. When the patent for the peg bar came out and the patent for the clear layers of animating technique thing all other companies were sued to hell and forced to stop what they were doing. Namco knows whats up, and if this becomes a problem, then they are going to make a whole lot of money.

Of course, I DO agree with you that it is unfortunate and sucks for all of us who were planning on implementing something like this in the future.

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Im sure Im not the first to mention, but wooo for the ngup.net thing fixed. I just noticed.


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I heard about the preloader games patent a while ago.. if you want to put a game in your preloader then do it, if Namco happen to contact you about it then remove it simple as that. Won't happen though.


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Hello, long time no see guys =]


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At 3/5/08 07:06 PM, TrueDarkness wrote: Hello, long time no see guys =]

I'm waiting for Lord-Sonx to say that one... Gah... He's been gone for ages. I remember he said he'll come back..did he like..die or something? :(

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At 3/5/08 10:47 PM, Rudy wrote:
At 3/5/08 07:06 PM, TrueDarkness wrote: Hello, long time no see guys =]
I'm waiting for Lord-Sonx to say that one... Gah... He's been gone for ages. I remember he said he'll come back..did he like..die or something? :(

Its hard to come back after being gone for such a long time. Eventually you simply dont feel at home anymore. But, life moves on. : P

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At 3/5/08 10:56 PM, 23450 wrote: Its hard to come back after being gone for such a long time. Eventually you simply dont feel at home anymore. But, life moves on. : P

Three weeks later, you're gone too. :(

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Hmm, I'm still waiting on schorhr...


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