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Level 17 sucks

At 6/29/07 03:13 PM, pixelz wrote: And snox ma boi, This peace is what all us great leaders live for. you were cooler at lvl 16... now I hardly reckognize you : (
I'm stopping at lvl 16, cuz Bruce Lee used nun-chucks.

i know level 17 sucks.. but it'll only be untill the revamp at whcih point i thin i'll be level.. 25..or something.. no idea...

i miss the nunchucks.. if only you could choose the level symbol... like.. have allt he one's you've had before and be able to use that...

so be a level 28 with a lollipop...

..::Pixar::..

Pixar is the best major animation studio out there right now, 3D or no. Their movies have been consistantly good, they have the most original ideas and they have great directors like Brad Bird (the Iron Giant, the Incredibles).

It's a sad, sorry state for traditional animation in the US right now as there haven't been any good feature 2D's in quite awhile. But it has moved to the "underground" where 2d animation is taking over the web.

At 6/29/07 03:21 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::Pixar::..

Pixar is the best major animation studio out there right now,

* I mean in the US. Overseas there are better traditional studios.

At 6/29/07 01:46 PM, Deathcon7 wrote: Celebrities

My cousin is a popular Reggaeton (Spanish Hip-hop) artist: Rakim of Rakim y Ken-Y.

Wow sweet.

That would be an wicked job working at Pixar, my favourite feature from them is not actually a movie, it was a short shown before a movie, i forget what movie but the short is a guy playing chess with himself, that opened my eyes to 3D animation and I wanted to be able to animate ever since. Aleast you can count on The Simpsons for 2D animation.

*Flashback to TreeHouse of Horrors where Homer turns 3D"

yeah, im pretty sure we can, :P

At 6/29/07 03:21 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::Pixar::..

Pixar is the best major animation studio out there right now, 3D or no. Their movies have been consistantly good, they have the most original ideas and they have great directors like Brad Bird (the Iron Giant, the Incredibles).

It's a sad, sorry state for traditional animation in the US right now as there haven't been any good feature 2D's in quite awhile. But it has moved to the "underground" where 2d animation is taking over the web.

Apparently, the word 'movie' is a spelling error.

RE: 2D animation

At 6/29/07 03:29 PM, Kanadian-Keith wrote: Aleast you can count on The Simpsons for 2D animation.

I lost all respect for the Simpsons' animation when I saw one of the trailers for the movie (which looks pretty bad). It was along the lines of "In a time when 3D CGI animation ruled the world blah blah blah well gay blah... we're well awesome", proper going on about how they were sticking to traditional 2D animation, then the very next shot showed Homer driving what was a blatantly CGI bulldozer down a blatantly CGI terrain. Like they're expecting an audience to be fooled by the fact that it had black outlines.

Seriously, if they want to integrate more up to date and computerised animation techniques that's cool, but cut the bullshit at least. Personally, I always found a massive charm in 2D animations which don't feel the need to give their characters 360° rotation. If you're going to go to that much effort to give something the illusion of an extra dimension, why not just film it?

At 6/29/07 03:21 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: Their movies have been consistantly good, they have the most original ideas and they have great directors like Brad Bird (the Iron Giant, the Incredibles).

I found out yesterday that Brad Bird is from where I live. And no, I have never met him.

3d/2d animation movies

obviously it's cheaper and easier to make a crappy 3d model and rotate that over a 2d bg instead of drawing it frame by frame..

and even then alot of companies just use cumputers for 3d stuff..

which is hwy i like anime so much, soo much hand drawn stuff, it's always high detailed and beautioful.. and even when they use 3d, like in steamboy, it looks amazing AND still animeish.. unlike stupid american 3d over 2d where it stands out wayy too much..

mostly, if using 3d in 2d cartoons, cel shading....

lazyness.

3D/2D animation

I agree, when American cartoons try to put 2D with 3D the 3D stands out a lot, but in overseas cartoons, the backgrounds are done so beautifully in 3D and still has a nice contrast with the 2D.

The Simpsons

So they use CGI in the movie, I doubt that they would use it in the cartoon and it would be a dumb move if they did, they went all this time with traditional 2D animation, I'd hate to see them add 3D except for that one Tree House of Horrors episode where Homer becomes 2D, that was cool and a one time thing.

At 6/29/07 03:56 PM, Kanadian-Keith wrote: 3D/2D animation

I agree, when American cartoons try to put 2D with 3D the 3D stands out a lot, but in overseas cartoons, the backgrounds are done so beautifully in 3D and still has a nice contrast with the 2D.

I can't rly agree with you :P. Family guys uses ALOT of 3D throughout alot of the episodes but its not very noticable and blends in well. However, I did see one cartoon on toon disney and there was a helicopter taking off and it lifted into the air and then all of a sudden you see a super shiny low qaulity 3d helicopter do a spin and fly off into the bg. I wanted to rip my eyes out after seeing that :(

The Simpsons

So they use CGI in the movie, I doubt that they would use it in the cartoon and it would be a dumb move if they did, they went all this time with traditional 2D animation, I'd hate to see them add 3D except for that one Tree House of Horrors episode where Homer becomes 2D, that was cool and a one time thing.

I didn't know that used CGI in the movie. I hope it looks cool :D

..::3D vs 2D::..

I think one place where 3D and 2D were effectively used in conjunction was Futurama. That show kicked ass on so many levels.

3D/2D Animation

I'm not talking about one cartoon, I'm talking about them all in general, maybe family guy does it good, but 20 other cartoons, just can't do it well

The Simpsons

I hope the CGI blends in nicely, also I can't wait for the movie :D

At 6/29/07 04:06 PM, atomic-noodle wrote:

At 6/29/07 03:56 PM, Kanadian-Keith wrote: 3D/2D animation

I agree, when American cartoons try to put 2D with 3D the 3D stands out a lot, but in overseas cartoons, the backgrounds are done so beautifully in 3D and still has a nice contrast with the 2D.

I can't rly agree with you :P. Family guys uses ALOT of 3D throughout alot of the episodes but its not very noticable and blends in well. However, I did see one cartoon on toon disney and there was a helicopter taking off and it lifted into the air and then all of a sudden you see a super shiny low qaulity 3d helicopter do a spin and fly off into the bg. I wanted to rip my eyes out after seeing that :(

The Simpsons

So they use CGI in the movie, I doubt that they would use it in the cartoon and it would be a dumb move if they did, they went all this time with traditional 2D animation, I'd hate to see them add 3D except for that one Tree House of Horrors episode where Homer becomes 2D, that was cool and a one time thing.

I didn't know that used CGI in the movie. I hope it looks cool :D

can I join your exclusive club please ?

At 6/29/07 04:12 PM, cafoodle wrote: can I join your exclusive club please ?

Erm, its not really a club, and if you read the first post, you'll find out that anyone can post as long as they are mature and contribute effectively.

Futurama

yeah, that show was awesome, Fry is the everyday man, and we can all connect to him one way or another, also Bender is what every man wants to be, well you could be loud, drunk, and stuff but not as good as Bender :)

At 6/29/07 04:06 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: ..::3D vs 2D::..

I think one place where 3D and 2D were effectively used in conjunction was Futurama. That show kicked ass on so many levels.

3d+2d

At 6/29/07 04:06 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: I think one place where 3D and 2D were effectively used in conjunction was Futurama. That show kicked ass on so many levels.

yeap.. mainly cuz in that the show was futureistic and the whole 3d in 2d world worked nicely... even when it was full 3d it looked perfect..

but int he simpsons it just doens't work since they used 2d for 390 or so shows.. but when they used 3d it just stood out so badly.

Aladin used 33d for the magic carpet and that worded great cuz the whole world they had drawn around it was just as detailed and yummy :P

Age and animation

i guess us arguign abotu this wont matter really..

the older generation dont understnad thuis stuff and dont care. they like the old aniamtion and just go ' wow look what they can do with computers these days' and go off to watch repeats of dads army.

the younger generation are far too stupid to understand and to busy killing each other and playing gta and crap to notice. they just go 'omg the grpahcis lol' and go watch epic movie and enjoy it.

the middelground , of which a few of us are apart of, notice these thigns and acutlly have an IQ aswell as knowing what IQ stands for!

End of the world

I'd give humanity a good few deades untill it destorys itself... 50 years...

3D + 2D

Aladdin did look good with 3D and stuff, and other movies or cartoons do, but when a cartoon thats been going for a while, such as The Simpsons, or any shows they redo over and over such as Scooby Doo or Bugs Bunny, it just doesn't work.

Age and Animation

The older generation probably don't care about today's way of animation because back then, they did it all by hand, thats really impressive and they are stubborned so they like to stick with their old ways, but they could go far if they incorporated their techniques with ours, for example, you draw a cartoon by hand, frame by frame, then you colour it in with computers, yes I know it's already done, a lot of times, but atleast the old generation still get to be apart of animation in a way that they like.

As for younger generation, they wouldn't understand how hard animation can be, they just like watching it, the animation world is huge and so made different aspects to it, they are too young or not smart enough to understand any of it.

As for our generation, we are at a time where, we are leaving the old and bringing new ways and can incorporate both before everyone starts going 3D. I think it's us who have to keep the 2D alive and we can still use 3D. Also it's gonna be hard because some might do animations just for the money which there is nothing wrong with but I enjoy animation for the love of it and the excitement and being able to have something to be proud of and have others go wow.

To me, animation will last forever but with new technology and new generations, it's going to chnage just like it has from the very beginning of it. I just hope we put animation in the right path.

End of Humanity

I give humanity a good 200 years, then they are done, unless some aliens or something clean up the earth or something, or maybe another Noah's arc or something. I'm not sure but I think humans still got a bit to go before we are all finished.

and there there was 4

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=72 6367
new flash mod. yey

A New Mod

Congratz, BlackMarketKraig on becoming a mod, hope you use your powers wisely,

"With great power, comes great responsibility" - Uncle Ben ( and no, not that cook guy)

It's nice to see another mod:), I think we needed another mod, I'm glad it's you, :D

New Flash Mod

Four Flash forum mods? Blasphemy! :O

congrats, BMK.

At 6/29/07 04:25 PM, Lord-Sonx wrote: and there there was 4

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=72 6367
new flash mod. yey

Eep, you blew my cover! Yep, I'm a mod now so if anyones having any problems in the forum, get in touch with me (PM, AIM, MSN) and I'll be happy to deal with it.

stay tuned... o__o

Congrats BMK.

And can people please refure to some of the younger generation :)

New mod
Yeah, i suddenly noticed that Blackmarketkraig was in green, and i was like 'hey! i remember he wasnt a mod', tho he always seemed modish for me. Congrats BMK, you deserved it.

new mod

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=72 6386

keep it in this thread i guess..

Sonx for mod

lol, i guess not then..

ah well.. 4 mods... woo

At 6/29/07 04:35 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: Eep, you blew my cover! Yep, I'm a mod now so if anyones having any problems in the forum, get in touch with me (PM, AIM, MSN) and I'll be happy to deal with it.

I knew there was a reason I was nice to you :P

At 6/29/07 04:35 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote:

At 6/29/07 04:25 PM, Lord-Sonx wrote: and there there was 4

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=72 6367
new flash mod. yey

Eep, you blew my cover! Yep, I'm a mod now so if anyones having any problems in the forum, get in touch with me (PM, AIM, MSN) and I'll be happy to deal with it.

stay tuned... o__o

Congrats!

Animation

I personally like 2D and 3D but the problem is 3D isn't used properly in most cases, 3D movies now-a-days are generic copies of one another. OMG spoof of childrens fairy tales? We must do it! OMG talking fish is a great idea thanks pixar! Lets get Will Smith to voice the fish and then we make millions! Thats how they make their movies now, they copy pixar.

Sonx for mod

lol, i guess not then..

For more reggish you are, i'll never make you mod.. the bbs would collapse.

ah well.. 4 mods... woo

There should be a list where it said which mods belonged ot where.

I always knew blackmarketkraig would be mod, check my post when i said who i'll made mod..

2D and 3D
I feel sorry for the guys that had to animate the Barbie movies or any type of movies like that

Animation

Not only do I prefer 2d, but I really like black and white, grainy/staticy animation (like easytoon stuff). I know it's probably not as appealing to most, but the simpler the animation, the more I like it, that just how I am.

At 6/29/07 05:20 PM, Evan wrote: Animation

Not only do I prefer 2d, but I really like black and white, grainy/staticy animation (like easytoon stuff). I know it's probably not as appealing to most, but the simpler the animation, the more I like it, that just how I am.

same goes for me. the easytoon stuff really gets me. things like explosions and rays look really really good in an easytoon style. the only problem is its very hard to make a full length flash with easytoon because of the way it exports and saves. and to actually develop a style like that of easytoon would take a very long time and probably would not be worth the effort in the end.