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At 3/8/13 03:17 PM, I-smel wrote: Speaking of Newgrounds I've got a post about why Newgrounds is the best flash game site in the chamber, and I MIGHT enter the "make a Newgrounds ad" contest.

Ad contest? Where?

At 3/8/13 09:39 PM, egg82 wrote: Ad contest? Where?

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1328768

At 3/8/13 09:22 PM, Archawn wrote: I modified the ANT build script for our project to call a shell script to generate and publish our javadoc and commit and push our code every time we compiled and downloaded to the robot.

Interesting. I think I will consider looking into something like this in the future. That is something I have always found tedious is remembering to actually push the code to git >_>

At 3/8/13 09:22 PM, Archawn wrote:

At 3/8/13 12:45 PM, Rustygames wrote: Actually now you mention it, does anyone use any automated build processes here?
I've been using a simple ant script to do a few bits and bobs for my current project

I've been using Java quite a bit for robotics stuff and it got to the point where generating and distributing code/documentation between collaborators (even with the help of GitHub) became a pain. I modified the ANT build script for our project to call a shell script to generate and publish our javadoc and commit and push our code every time we compiled and downloaded to the robot. Very useful, I'm getting into scripty-type things and they're a blast to play with. (plus they certainly make life a whole lot easier)

I'm using it for a similar thing really, I've got some server side java stuff, a couple of xml files and a flash. One ANT script compiles and uploads everything I need to test and also pops up a little firefox window with a couple of swf's set to auto login. It used to take me 5 minutes to do all that every time I wanted to run the code, so a 5 second script was a huge productivity boost for me :)

Since we actually are talking about deployment and automation now, I am not the biggest ANT/Maven fan. I think I would prefer to write a build script on my own with Ruby, or Node. In terms of deployment, I've had good luck with capistrano. :)

Lets not talk about deployment. lets talk about projects we are working on, and fun stuff.
http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/4cd9bc6174cb3b5e15102c34 c868a589
Here's my rhythm baseball game that you guys should totally play. just click the random level button, don't worry about the rest.
UP - jump
DOWN - duck under shit
LEFT - swing
RIGHT - break rocks

At 3/9/13 08:05 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Since we actually are talking about deployment and automation now, I am not the biggest ANT/Maven fan. I think I would prefer to write a build script on my own with Ruby, or Node. In terms of deployment, I've had good luck with capistrano. :)

I'm getting sick of wrapping calls to other languages inside of calls to other languages inside of calls to other languages...

At 3/9/13 08:49 PM, GeoKureli wrote: Lets not talk about deployment. lets talk about projects we are working on, and fun stuff.

I think deployment is fun stuff for them

Weirdos

At 3/10/13 12:05 AM, swishcheese wrote: for some reason it does not work right in dumping grounds so you'll have to download it. Why is it not working on dumping grounds?? It works fine locally when i run it in browsers and straight in Flash Player.

Does it connect to something, like ng api or something? That kind of stuff doesn't work in the dump. Try creating a project and uploading it to the preview there. Or maybe it loads files or something

At 3/10/13 12:05 AM, swishcheese wrote: Here is what I have been working on for far to long. This is just a demo and only includes one level that repeats over and over.

HERE IS THE DEMO

for some reason it does not work right in dumping grounds so you'll have to download it. Why is it not working on dumping grounds?? It works fine locally when i run it in browsers and straight in Flash Player.

I. Fucking. Love. Push block puzzles! Can't wait to see the finished game. how do I get passed the 2 portals 3 rows down from the top?

It would be nice if I moved left when I tap left, instead of turning that direction and having to press it again

At 3/10/13 12:43 AM, swishcheese wrote: Thanks Man!! :D the problem with the tap left move left is there is situations in the game where you want to shoot left but not move left and you are not facing left.

gotcha. The thing is 90% of the game is moving, so easy moving controls should really have priority. what if you held space to lock your position and turn with arrows, or you hold attack and press a direction to attack? neither of my ideas are that great, but I would still prefer it to tapping twice to move. given how often I'm zig zagging in the game. just a thought

here is picture trying to explain how to beat it

ah it seems so obvious now.

and MSGhero, Thats the weird thing. I'm not using NG API or loading files. Everything in Embedded. Im not sure what the problem is. Im using FlashDevelop using its default preloader class. Could that be an issue??

maybe you're only checking if its loaded once at the beginning, then it would only work locally even when it is tested locally on a browser.

At 3/9/13 08:05 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Since we actually are talking about deployment and automation now, I am not the biggest ANT/Maven fan. I think I would prefer to write a build script on my own with Ruby, or Node. In terms of deployment, I've had good luck with capistrano. :)

Using something a lot of people use and has a lot of documentation is desirable over a custom solution because it's easier for people to learn (and they might already know it) when you add people to a team or company which uses it. It's why PureMVC is very appealing to me.

And ha ha we tricked you into talking about it! :D

At 3/10/13 09:58 AM, Rustygames wrote: Using something a lot of people use and has a lot of documentation is desirable over a custom solution because it's easier for people to learn (and they might already know it) when you add people to a team or company which uses it. It's why PureMVC is very appealing to me.

And ha ha we tricked you into talking about it! :D

I hear what you're saying there. If you want to talk about skills that will add value to your career then I definitely wouldn't put anything related to flash on that list over the long term. Everything you know about flash will most likely be completely useless in 10 years, unless you find yourself maintaining legacy code or in some really niche situation.

At 3/10/13 01:01 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote:

At 3/10/13 09:58 AM, Rustygames wrote: Using something a lot of people use and has a lot of documentation is desirable over a custom solution because it's easier for people to learn (and they might already know it) when you add people to a team or company which uses it. It's why PureMVC is very appealing to me.

And ha ha we tricked you into talking about it! :D

I hear what you're saying there. If you want to talk about skills that will add value to your career then I definitely wouldn't put anything related to flash on that list over the long term. Everything you know about flash will most likely be completely useless in 10 years, unless you find yourself maintaining legacy code or in some really niche situation.

PureMVC is such a good one because it's simple concepts which can be transferred into most languages regardless of their feature set

It's all about transferable skills. If you know Actionscript then you just have to swallow some bleach then you'll be smart enough to do Javascript. Game development is game development, regardless of platform, syntax is the easy part.

At 3/10/13 02:00 PM, Rustygames wrote: It's all about transferable skills. If you know Actionscript then you just have to swallow some bleach then you'll be smart enough to do Javascript. Game development is game development, regardless of platform, syntax is the easy part.

I agree that a lot of the skills are transferrable, but I would argue against this notion that javascript is just 'dumbed down' Actionscript. There are a lot of different programming paradigms with javascript, and it's more than just syntax. Yes both of them are programming languages, and a certain amount of that knowledge is transferrable. It would take you time to become great at it, just as it would a great Java or C++ developer trying to learn Actionscript. It is going to take you a few years before you are completely comfortable with the language, the frameworks, the design patterns, etc. That's my opinion anyway.

Javascript is dumbed down Actionscript (again, just my opinion) :)

(I'm sure some Javascript fanboys are going to come and kick my arse now...)

At 3/10/13 01:22 AM, swishcheese wrote: Hmmm. I have other files i uploaded with same preloader now thinking of it. And it does get to the sponsor intro after the preloader. I tried taking out the sponsor intro and its still not working. Im sure I'll figure it out later on (hopefully).

Just tried downloading it, and it doesn't work for me locally either (chrome). It says "loaded" then the "sponsor intro" then blank grey screen. Idk why not, my swf that connects to stuff works fine locally...

At 3/11/13 01:21 AM, swishcheese wrote: ohhh and MSGhero, how do you like the look and background of the demo?? (I added a little diagonal pattern)

Yeah, looks really nice. I agree with Geo about going instead of facing when I press a direction.

At 3/11/13 08:45 PM, swishcheese wrote: Thanks man. Cool. Thanks for feedback. I will add that as a default option. That and an ending cut scene and I should be done with this game :D!!! maybe some sound effects too...

I thought you said there was only one level so far?

At 3/11/13 11:28 PM, swishcheese wrote: No, no. I have all of them complete.

Sweet!

I was thinking of trying to go on FGL

What's FGL?

Also, I spent a long time compiling a list of sites that will pay for games. There's no reason to submit your game to one site unless they sponsor you, even still you might make more by submitting it on multiple sites. I'll shorten the list to brief descriptions.

Newgrounds and Kongregate pay you for traffic (link for details and percentages). you can put your own ads using the newgrounds api, or you can use mochimedia on any site. ArmorGames offers sponsorships for finished games. If they sponsor you, you can still submit your games elsewhere, I'm not sure if they offer exclusive sponsorships. Kongregate has weekly and monthly cash prizes for games as well.

At 3/12/13 12:06 AM, swishcheese wrote: Flash Game(or Gaming) License. check it out

Sweet! Thanks for the info, apparently FGL has non-exclusive offers as well, so you can distribute your game elsewhere too.

I can't see the demo :(