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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-02 22:19:51 Reply

At 8/2/13 01:09 PM, Luis wrote: P.S : Tell target for life! fuck all of you!

Luis! Watch your fucking mouth, Tom's around. Do you want to be put back under the stair case again?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 01:40:21 Reply

At 8/2/13 10:19 PM, pirateplatypus wrote: Luis! Watch your fucking mouth, Tom's around. Do you want to be put back under the stair case again?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 08:12:27 Reply

Merging forums into a games forum is a good idea. I wouldn't add programming because those guys don't necessarily just do games.

Also I think we need to advertise the forums more somehow, Flash forum used to be epic and I know a lot of us started out here. That seems to have faded over the years as it's become less active.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 11:23:55 Reply

At 8/3/13 08:12 AM, Rustygames wrote: Merging forums into a games forum is a good idea. I wouldn't add programming because those guys don't necessarily just do games.

But then doesn't it become kind of fragmented? Will the new Game Design & Development forum just be for Unity, HTML5 and Flash game development? Is haXe included in this? Will the programming forum end up holding slow moving threads about game development in other languages that go unanswered due to lack of "specialist" posters?

all these questions!

I feel like if we call it a "games dev" forum, then all topics relating to games development should be contained there regardless of language or platform. It would hopefully start some cool discussions as well, such as reprogramming Flash games into full fledged games as Omar and Xelu are doing with Concerned Joe.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 11:25:30 Reply

At 8/3/13 08:12 AM, Rustygames wrote: Merging forums into a games forum is a good idea. I wouldn't add programming because those guys don't necessarily just do games.

I would definitely add the programming forum into the mix. The programming forum is so slow, plus it feels like every other thread is a lost soul asking an ActionScript question.

My "dream" is having the Flash, Programming, Mobile & Game Factory forum all as one.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 12:03:22 Reply

At 8/3/13 11:25 AM, deckheadtottie wrote:
At 8/3/13 08:12 AM, Rustygames wrote: Merging forums into a games forum is a good idea. I wouldn't add programming because those guys don't necessarily just do games.
I would definitely add the programming forum into the mix. The programming forum is so slow, plus it feels like every other thread is a lost soul asking an ActionScript question.

My "dream" is having the Flash, Programming, Mobile & Game Factory forum all as one.

But in my experience the programming forum has an awful lot of web programmers talking about building websites or other server side solutions. If you're gonna merge it into the flash forum then you need to have some sort of separation.

To be honest the more I think about it the more i think it should just stay as it is. It's not like there is anything stopping you from jumping between forums. If the forums became busier then we wouldn't need to merge them together in order to give the illusion that it's a buzzing community.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 12:07:58 Reply

At 8/3/13 11:25 AM, deckheadtottie wrote:
At 8/3/13 08:12 AM, Rustygames wrote: Merging forums into a games forum is a good idea. I wouldn't add programming because those guys don't necessarily just do games.
I would definitely add the programming forum into the mix. The programming forum is so slow, plus it feels like every other thread is a lost soul asking an ActionScript question.

I think that's exactly why it should be merged. It also seems that there are regs in the programming forum that don't come to the flash forum and vice versa. I think shoving us all into one forum could lead to some cool discussions.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 12:24:34 Reply

At 8/3/13 12:03 PM, Rustygames wrote: illusion that it's a buzzing community.

While there'll certainly be an element of illusion, I can't count the number of times I've seen a new forum users post an ActionScript question in the programming forum, a mod correctly locks it and directs them here, only for that user to never to be heard from again.

Take a quick peek in the programming forum now, there are only 16 "active" threads from the past fortnight. I'd say 7 of those threads are in relation to game creation (either HTML5, Unity or whatever). Two locked threads (one for a year old job offer that was bumped, the other a troll thread). A couple of generic, what I call, apples vs oranges threads and a couple of threads that are actually out of the scope of gaming.

I could understand your point if the programming forum was a hive of activity, but it just isn't. In fact, it saddens me to say this, it's pretty much dead. I do regular the programming forum, I don't post a great deal but it's my first port of call on the BBS, and I wouldn't be at all upset if it merged with the other forums. OK, I know nothing about Flash/AS3, but I'm not scared of learning, and I'm sure the Flash guys won't mind the rare "programming" question, either.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 12:44:59 Reply

At 8/3/13 12:24 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: I know nothing about Flash/AS3, but I'm not scared of learning, and I'm sure the Flash guys won't mind the rare "programming" question, either.

Also bear in mind a lot of Flash regs are well versed in other languages, too.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 12:47:56 Reply

At 8/3/13 12:44 PM, Sam wrote:
At 8/3/13 12:24 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: I know nothing about Flash/AS3, but I'm not scared of learning, and I'm sure the Flash guys won't mind the rare "programming" question, either.
Also bear in mind a lot of Flash regs are well versed in other languages, too.

Exactly. I didn't want to be so blunt, but if you're a confident programmer no language is really out of your grasp.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 12:55:22 Reply

At 8/3/13 12:47 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: Exactly. I didn't want to be so blunt, but if you're a confident programmer no language is really out of your grasp.

I wanna go back to AS2, when life was all simple-like Q.Q

I'm really on the fence about whether or not we should merge the programming forum. On one hand, the activity isn't great and it's usually pretty close to game design, but on the other i'm going to assume that after we merge all these topics together it's going to get a lot more busy and people will want to separate again (plus the title would be a little confusing, and new people may think this forum only does game-related stuff)


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 13:45:11 Reply

At 8/3/13 12:03 PM, Rustygames wrote: But in my experience the programming forum has an awful lot of web programmers talking about building websites or other server side solutions. If you're gonna merge it into the flash forum then you need to have some sort of separation.
At 8/3/13 12:55 PM, egg82 wrote: the title would be a little confusing, and new people may think this forum only does game-related stuff

RIght, the only title that would make sense at that point would be 'Developer Forum'. The activity thing is also kinda surprising, in a year and a half the new forums have reached over half the number of posts in the whole programming forum so yeah there's potential for stimulation of some kind. Still, I'm skeptical.

If the forums became busier then we wouldn't need to merge them together in order to give the illusion that it's a buzzing Community.

Then the question is how to accomplish that? Links on the Games page of NG? Popular topics on the homepage? Make the community button twice as wide? Tom dressing up as a Tank and handing out flyers?

At 8/3/13 12:03 PM, Rustygames wrote: To be honest the more I think about it the more i think it should just stay as it is.

I really don't think it makes a difference to any regs, I guess it's more important to think about how it affects new users.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 13:55:51 Reply

Mr. Fulp dressing up as a tank and handing out fliers gets my vote


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 14:03:49 Reply

At 8/3/13 01:55 PM, Rustygames wrote: Mr. Fulp dressing up as a tank and handing out fliers gets my vote

I third this motion.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 14:17:47 Reply

At 8/3/13 02:03 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: I third this motion.

Wait, who's second? o.o


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 14:41:31 Reply

At 8/3/13 02:17 PM, egg82 wrote:
At 8/3/13 02:03 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: I third this motion.
Wait, who's second? o.o

Innermike put the motion forward and Rustygames seconded it.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-03 17:10:35 Reply

Why not, I doubt anyone would actually notice.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 17:06:55 Reply

OK Tom your fate has been decided by the council.

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Confessions:

I hate the term 'method'. Just say function jesus.
Never used a getter or setter in any actual project ever. I know what they are, I know how to use them, and I know I probably never will.
I still make around 5% of my variables two letters long, it's an improvement over the 95% from a few years ago but still...


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 18:02:33 Reply

At 8/4/13 05:06 PM, Innermike wrote: I hate the term 'method'. Just say function jesus

They are actually not the same thing.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 18:29:39 Reply

At 8/4/13 06:02 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote:
At 8/4/13 05:06 PM, Innermike wrote: I hate the term 'method'. Just say function jesus
They are actually not the same thing.

I've never learnt the actual difference. I had one of my tutors say: "A method is a function that's part of a class".

Hmm.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 19:06:48 Reply

At 8/4/13 05:06 PM, Innermike wrote: I hate the term 'method'. Just say function jesus.

A method refers to either a function or a variable, from what I understand.
Could also be a function or a getter/setter, i'm not quite sure.

Never used a getter or setter in any actual project ever. I know what they are, I know how to use them, and I know I probably never will.

I use getters quite a lot, but rarely setters. If I find myself needing both a getter and setter for a variable, I just make the damn thing public and check the value in a later function that actually uses it.
I'm curious to know how you've gone through all of your programming life without using a single getter. Read-only variables that can be changed privately within the class are sooooo useful. I use them quite a lot to help idiot-proof my code.

I still make around 5% of my variables two letters long, it's an improvement over the 95% from a few years ago but still...

I sometimes make absurdly-long variables, but honestly i'd prefer a long, descriptive name over a short, vague one.

Wait, I think i've heard this line from someone before... >.>

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 19:42:03 Reply

At 8/4/13 06:02 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote:
At 8/4/13 05:06 PM, Innermike wrote: I hate the term 'method'. Just say function jesus
They are actually not the same thing.

I'm aware of that, though I don't think I'm aware of all the nuances. To elaborate, my problem with the word is that people use it when they think they are synonymous but use it anyway, it's irritating because it's not like I can always say they're wrong, but it's a distinction that gets inevitably misused in certain instances (pun not intended) as a result.

I dunno, maybe I'm just subconsciously averse to the word on a phonetic level

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 20:57:20 Reply

Holy fuck. How is it so many people in here don't even know what a method is :|


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 21:12:16 Reply

Confession:
I cannot for the life of me figure out these movieclips. When I try to use FrameLabel events, two identical mcs (same class different instances) don't dispatch the same events at the same time. I've been spending a lot of time on this, haven't really done anything productive ._.

Functions are used in AS, methods are used in java.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 21:14:53 Reply

At 8/4/13 08:57 PM, Rustygames wrote: Holy fuck. How is it so many people in here don't even know what a method is :|

I think the confusion comes from when you ask "can you strictly define the word 'method'?"


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 21:59:20 Reply

Another confession:
I forgot to add the rest of the conditional, so I was basically just null checking instead of value comparing.

fuck

Also I'm terrified of the C languages. Whenever I take the next CS course, it'll be C, so I guess I face my fears then. But I'm probably not taking it this coming semester anyway

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-04 22:14:33 Reply

At 8/4/13 09:59 PM, MSGhero wrote: Also I'm terrified of the C languages.

C is awesome. You should embrace it. :)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-05 09:16:18 Reply

At 8/4/13 07:06 PM, egg82 wrote: I sometimes make absurdly-long variables, but honestly i'd prefer a long, descriptive name over a short, vague one.

Same, though I will sometimes make my variables a short, easy to type name that means nothing. Then I'll use sed/vim to change it to something that doesn't suck.

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I think C is awesome.
In my mind, C++ is C with stuff added for those who thought C was too hard.
Also in my mind, Java was made for those who still felt C++ wasn't easy enough.
C# was made for those who were still intimidated by Java.
(I haven't ever spend much time mucking about with C++/Java/C#)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-05 09:51:49 Reply

Confessions

I can't strictly define a method D:

And a bunch of other OOP terminology goes over my head.

I'm also getting really used to coding in Lua, with variables not having types and only a makeshift OOP model D:

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-08-05 10:13:38 Reply

At 8/5/13 09:51 AM, 4urentertainment wrote: I'm also getting really used to coding in Lua, with variables not having types and only a makeshift OOP model D:

Haha I know that feel.

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