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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-05 15:42:29 Reply

At 7/5/13 03:11 PM, Innermike wrote:
Also Rosetta Stone is fucking inexcusably terrible.

really? I thought it was pretty damn amazing. Used it for more clases de Espanol (I own a gaming keyboard, damnit) - my friend used it to learn... Oh, god, I can't remember. Anyway, he knows English and Spanish as his two main languages (you'd never be able to tell he knew the other if you talked to him in either), French as a side, and now this other language that I can't remember.

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At 7/5/13 03:42 PM, egg82 wrote:
At 7/5/13 03:11 PM, Innermike wrote:
Also Rosetta Stone is fucking inexcusably terrible.
really? I thought it was pretty damn amazing.

Well ok I guess I can only vouch for Japanese, I have always heard good things about it from people learning latin-based languages so even when I was warned against it for Japanese I tried it anyway. The highest level you reach in the RS classes isn't even enough to pass the lowest Japanese Language Proficiency Test, which any old textbook will do (I'm almost there myself, though most people don't bother taking the N5 test cause it's so easy). My Dad travels a lot so he has a bunch of RS shit piled up so thankfully I didn't waste money on it.

Quick side-note: My god C# is easy to learn. Never in my life has it taken me hours to learn a new programming language.

Yeah I think that's everyones reaction, I haven't used it in forever but I remember having fun with it.


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At 7/5/13 03:11 PM, Innermike wrote: Anyone here ever try learning a language with a different alphabet/writing system? I've been listening to Japanese audio/video lessons for a couple months now and I decided to start learning how to read/write as well, aside from being super different obviously it seems better in a lot of ways and worse in some others, but I guess it balances out so it's all good.

After about three weeks I've got both 48 kana syllabaries down and I'm about 50 kanji and 50 vocab deep, but apparently as you get used to it your absorption rate increases dramatically especially since kanji you've learned already often show up as parts of other kanji and then the amount of combinations for vocabulary increases as well.

One of the interesting things I discovered was that in Japanese complex words more (often than in english) are easier to write and simple words are harder.

I know this is hardly flash related or whatever but I think this thread can always use the stimulation.

Also Rosetta Stone is fucking inexcusably terrible.

I've actually started learning Japanese too, I'm currently 20 characters into Hiragana and it's been about a week. My progress should be better, but I've been away the past 4 days so that's my excuse. The recommended places for learning online seem to be Tae Kim's guide as it's well constructed and proper, also Namasensei on YouTube. He's a bit more about the motivation, but his stroke order and handwriting are generally pretty bad.

I actually prefer the idea of the syllables having a consistent pronunciation unlike English letters which seem to very dependent on the words. I reckon English would be quite a hard language to learn for those who have a different first language.


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At 7/5/13 07:49 PM, VoidForce wrote: I've actually started learning Japanese too, I'm currently 20 characters into Hiragana and it's been about a week. My progress should be better, but I've been away the past 4 days so that's my excuse. The recommended places for learning online seem to be Tae Kim's guide as it's well constructed and proper, also Namasensei on YouTube. He's a bit more about the motivation, but his stroke order and handwriting are generally pretty bad.

I actually prefer the idea of the syllables having a consistent pronunciation unlike English letters which seem to very dependent on the words. I reckon English would be quite a hard language to learn for those who have a different first language.

Oh for sure (see pic).

There's an app that's £7 on the Mac App Store (and after just checking now apparently it's on basically everything) called Human Japanese and it's absolutely incredible, I mean just wowzers. Not only does it go through hirigana and katakana with stroke order animations you can click nearly anything to hear it being pronounced and it goes through the building blocks of the language, structure and grammar stuff. Not to mention in between language chapters there are just general bits of info on the history, geography and culture of Japan. Oh and the app is just very well designed too which helps.

Once you start learning Kanji of all the resources I've tried WaniKani is hands down king, you'll actually become addicted to learning, and though it starts slow it's very effective and uses a spaced repetition system for maximum retention. You start with a set of radicals and once you're familiar with them you unlock Kanji that are comprised of them, once you can recall those consistently you'll unlock vocab that includes them and when you're answer rate is high enough you level up and get a new set of radicals which can combine with the older ones and it keeps going, the more often you get something wrong the more often it brings it back so it adjusts to your pace and it's always making you eager for the next review session, first two levels are free and the subscription is pretty affordable, but it'll take a while to get through those two so you can get a feel for it, I can't recommend it highly enough though.

Not to mention there's a chrome extension that will replace words on any webpage with their Kanji vocab equivalents, which, while it wont make things suddenly follow proper grammar it really enhances immersion.

Also, I've been using Pimsleurs audio lessons for a while now, the pace of speech in it is more accurate to real life, though of course it's pretty formal, I suppose it's better to learn to speak politely first haha. I recommend that too, and it relies less on 'set phrases' than a lot of other courses.

I'm sure you've heard of Anki by now, I'm not a fan but hey, different strokes for different folks.

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At 7/5/13 08:21 PM, Innermike wrote:
Not to mention there's a chrome extension that will replace words on any webpage with their Kanji vocab equivalents, which, while it wont make things suddenly follow proper grammar it really enhances immersion.

Also, I've been using Pimsleurs audio lessons for a while now, the pace of speech in it is more accurate to real life, though of course it's pretty formal, I suppose it's better to learn to speak politely first haha. I recommend that too, and it relies less on 'set phrases' than a lot of other courses.

I'm sure you've heard of Anki by now, I'm not a fan but hey, different strokes for different folks.

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Sounds like a pretty solid app, I'll google it and see what I can find. A lot of people have told me that you'll only need to read the character, but knowing how to write it with correct stroke order and such will probably help keep it in your mind longer.

The way I've been trying to make sure I get things memorised correctly is every half hour or so I'll pick up a notepad and try to write down all of the syllables (i.e. a, ka, sa, ta, etc.) and then the hiragana character beside it. Every time I don't remember it, I write it down 30 times in a row. Works pretty well, I've found. I'm dreading Kanji though, I aim to take it at 5-10 a week.

I downloaded some program recently (the name slips my mind) that allows me to type in Japanese using the standard keyboard, it's fun to mess around with, but not a lot of use to me yet until I know all of the characters. I'll take a look into Pimsleur too, any resource I can find is generally worth checking out. I'm planning on going to Japan for two weeks next summer so I'd like to pick up as much as I can in a year.

What's your motivation for learning? Just for fun? The culture?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-05 22:39:22 Reply

At 7/5/13 09:51 PM, VoidForce wrote: Sounds like a pretty solid app, I'll google it and see what I can find. A lot of people have told me that you'll only need to read the character, but knowing how to write it with correct stroke order and such will probably help keep it in your mind longer.

The way I've been trying to make sure I get things memorised correctly is every half hour or so I'll pick a notepad and try to write all of the syllables (i.e. a, ka, sa, ta, etc.) and then the hiragana character beside it. Every time I don't remember it, I write it 30 times in a row. Works pretty well, I've found. I'm dreading Kanji though, I aim to take it at 5-10 a week.

Most people end up doing at least 4 or 5 new ones a day, and as long as you review the ones you know at suitable intervals you could do the main 2000 in a year with a pretty high retention rate, if you know more kanji then you know more combinations -> vocabulary knowing more words that use the kanji actually helps you become more comfortable with it if you get me?

Kanji only seems daunting when you approach each one as it's own thing, what I mean by that is if you do it the WaniKani way (I think the RTK book uses a similar method), whereby you build from radicals up then instead of remembering 22 strokes or whatever you just know 4 radicals, you come up with a mnemonic (each one has it's own on WaniKani and they're ~95% effective) then it becomes way easier, and if you know the stroke order for the radicals then that's also easier all of a sudden, although, stroke order shouldn't be a priority, it's more of a distraction really, the most I think you can say is it's helpful for kids in Japan but not so much for english speakers learning Japanese. Btw WaniKani aren't paying me for this, I just genuinely think the site is great, and the mascot is a wanikani (crabigator) so that's just added awesome.

I downloaded some program recently (the name slips my mind) that allows me to type in Japanese using the standard keyboard, it's fun to mess around with, but not a lot of use to me yet until I know all of the characters. I'll take a look into Pimsleur too, any resource I can find is generally worth checking out. I'm planning on going to Japan for weeks next summer so I'd like to pick as much as I can in a year.

That's awesome! Do you know exactly where you're going? I think it's raining season in a lot of places right now.

What's your motivation for learning? Just for fun? The culture?

I really like Monster Hunter? Haha but seriously, I've been interested in Japanese culture since I was 8-9 and everyone had to do a like a report thing on a country, I did Japan and I was instantly (rice)bowled over. Sure who doesn't love anime n shit but it's beyond that really at this point, there are a lot of fundamental things about Japanese culture I love and I would definitely like to live there one day, even if it's only brief. I've only been there twice but damn did I love every second of it, I liked it more than Disneyworld for sure!

And I do love Monster Hunter a lot, I have the Japanese import of MH3P (HD remaster) on PS3, after >1000 hours on the PSP titles it's actually possible for me to play it. Did you know 1 in 3 people in Tokyo have it? That's freaking bonkers

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At 7/5/13 03:11 PM, Innermike wrote: Anyone here ever try learning a language with a different alphabet/writing system? I've been listening to Japanese audio/video lessons for a couple months now and I decided to start learning how to read/write as well, aside from being super different obviously it seems better in a lot of ways and worse in some others, but I guess it balances out so it's all good.

After about three weeks I've got both 48 kana syllabaries down and I'm about 50 kanji and 50 vocab deep, but apparently as you get used to it your absorption rate increases dramatically especially since kanji you've learned already often show up as parts of other kanji and then the amount of combinations for vocabulary increases as well.

One of the interesting things I discovered was that in Japanese complex words more (often than in english) are easier to write and simple words are harder.

I know this is hardly flash related or whatever but I think this thread can always use the stimulation.

Also Rosetta Stone is fucking inexcusably terrible.

I learned Korean, and I also speak hebrew which has its own alphabet (though technically the roman alphabet is actually the "new language alphabet" i learned, since hebrew is my native language). Korean writing system used to be based on chinese characters, like old forms of japanese. Then in the 15th century came along king Sejong who is probably the only worthy intellectual in the history of Korea; he came up with a new korean alphabet called hangul. Every syllable is formed by one letter block made out of up to one starting consonant, one vowel, and one ending consonant. Vowels are combinations of a small set of vowel constructors. All the foundational vowel constructors were presumably conceived in reference to the shape your mouth/tongue makes when you pronounce said sound.

As far as Rosetta Stone - I know nothing about the software itself, but I know there is immense progress to be made in language teaching practice when it comes to eastern asian languages. Japanese probably doesn't suffer as badly as Korean (and possibly chinese) because Japan has always been a strong world power, and people have always been interested in the culture (and consequently the language), so a considerable effort has been spent on the teaching of japanese language for foreigners. That being said, while I suspect that there must be many strong japanese learning programs, there are also undoubtedly many terrible ones, just as there are for Korean language, since those languages have a very different strategy of expressing fact from the one we are used to in western culture. Again, I don't know Rosetta Stone, and I suspect that the issue I pointed out may not be the issue that's causing you discontent with rosetta, but it is a real issue nonetheless.

Also, I agree that there is a disconcerting inconsistency between english writing and pronunciation. I've become aware of it ever since I started learning Korean and noticing how Koreans have just as hard a time (if not harder) with english as I do with korean. I would have become very frustrated with english by now if I were learning it as an adult. Naturally, as a human and also a programmer, I enjoy languages which have strong sets of rules that build up a lot of knowledge, and I would be frustrated with languages that are filled with exceptions and inconsistencies. Having to spend so much effort remembering all the arbitrary nuances of english words would be very frustrating.


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A white screen appears for like ten minutes before the preloader appears, fully loaded. Knowing the patience of newgrounders, this will probably blam our entry. How to fix this? Thanks.

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At 7/5/13 11:54 PM, FlyingColours wrote: Please, urgent help needed.
http://www.newgrounds.com/projects/view/688111
A white screen appears for like ten minutes before the preloader appears, fully loaded. Knowing the patience of newgrounders, this will probably blam our entry. How to fix this? Thanks.

You're loading classes before the preloader starts, and it won't display anything till it's done. If you're using FD, use the template preloader they give you. You have to use getDefinitionByName to avoid loading everything at the start.

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At 7/6/13 12:13 AM, MSGhero wrote: You're loading classes before the preloader starts, and it won't display anything till it's done. If you're using FD, use the template preloader they give you. You have to use getDefinitionByName to avoid loading everything at the start.

Ooooh thanks! I'll have to try that now.

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At 7/5/13 07:20 PM, Innermike wrote:

Hey Mike!

I was about to be all pissed off that you said the Rosetta Stone sucks, then I realized you were NOT referring to the actual Egyptian artifact.

I just saw the pictures you posted on Twitter for your game. You should totally finish that and sell it and drown in money. It doesn't even need an artist. Your art style is really stylistic.

I've just finished 2 games for the jam. Also we're having a revolution.

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Now that our GJ9 entry is up and running, I can read those long posts!...

At 7/5/13 03:11 PM, Innermike wrote: Anyone here ever try learning a language with a different alphabet/writing system?

I have! It's called English. :P In all seriousness, though, I've been learning English since I was a baby anyway, so I guess it doesn't count. I don't think it would be too difficult to learn a lanugage that uses the Cyrillic or Arabic alphabets, though. It's just a writing system, a way of representing ideas, like XML and HTML. The writing system is the easy part; polishing your writing (analogy: CSS) and forming sentences grammatically (analogy: JS) are the hard parts! I've been learning French for a few years, and orthography really is the least of my worries...

After about three weeks I've got both 48 kana syllabaries down and I'm about 50 kanji and 50 vocab deep, but apparently as you get used to it your absorption rate increases dramatically especially since kanji you've learned already often show up as parts of other kanji and then the amount of combinations for vocabulary increases as well.

I don't speak Japanese, but they borrowed a lot from Chinese, so I think I can give you a little tip: Research on how the characters are formed! Many online sites do that, e.g. chineseetymology.org. Searching kanji should work there (unless it's a native one without a hanzi equivalent.) Take the Chinese character cai3. At first, it may not seem like anything you know, but if you look it up, you'll find that it's a hand picking up a flower! :)

As an aside, I think there are two huge obstacles to language-learning: one is internalising the grammar (knowing is the easy part) and the other is remembering vocab. I think I'm doing fairly well in the former after the basic rules (conjugation and pluralisation, etc.) kind of 'clicked in' during my fourth year of learning French. I'm still struggling with the latter, however, and that's something I want to solve during the summer. :)

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At 7/6/13 11:13 AM, FlyingColours wrote: As an aside, I think there are two huge obstacles to language-learning: one is internalising the grammar (knowing is the easy part) and the other is remembering vocab. I think I'm doing fairly well in the former after the basic rules (conjugation and pluralisation, etc.)

Yeah I totally agree, the Japanese language is notoriously vague so internalising the grammar will probably take a billion years for me, thankfully pluralization isn't a problem, every noun basically works like "sheep" or "deer".

At 7/6/13 09:28 AM, 4urentertainment wrote: I was about to be all pissed off that you said the Rosetta Stone sucks, then I realized you were NOT referring to the actual Egyptian artifact.

I laughed at this.

I just saw the pictures you posted on Twitter for your game. You should totally finish that and sell it and drown in money. It doesn't even need an artist. Your art style is really stylistic.

Haha yeah... if only (;_;) means a lot coming from you though, Joe was definitely one of my initial inspirations.

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At 7/5/13 10:39 PM, Innermike wrote:
That's awesome! Do you know exactly where you're going? I think it's raining season in a lot of places right now.

I'm not certain yet, most likely Tokyo so I can do the typical touristy things. I've been posting around 4chan's travel board (an actually civilised board) and talking with people on there about their trips and language learning which has helped out a good bit in terms of ideas.

What's your motivation for learning? Just for fun? The culture?
I really like Monster Hunter? Haha but seriously, I've been interested in Japanese culture since I was 8-9 and everyone had to do a like a report thing on a country, I did Japan and I was instantly (rice)bowled over. Sure who doesn't love anime n shit but it's beyond that really at this point, there are a lot of fundamental things about Japanese culture I love and I would definitely like to live there one day, even if it's only brief. I've only been there twice but damn did I love every second of it, I liked it more than Disneyworld for sure!

1 in 3? Jeez, that's pretty crazy. Might need to pick myself up 3 Ultimate, haha. I'm pretty similar to be honest, always enjoyed Japanese games, shows, anime, etc. The more I grew up, the more I got interested in other aspects like the food, tea, festivals and such so it'd be nice to experience that stuff first hand. What places have you been to?

To keep the thread a bit more on topic, going to toss out a screenshot of the latest project I've been working on. Sort of a Pokemon/Digimon monster collecting project:

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At 7/6/13 12:08 PM, VoidForce wrote: To keep the thread a bit more on topic, going to toss out a screenshot of the latest project I've been working on. Sort of a Pokemon/Digimon monster collecting project:

This is why we need WIP Wednesday or Screenshot Saturday on this site: so we can reserve this thread for tangents and not game dev stuff.

I learned Latin and Spanish in high school. Spanish was kinda meh, but I really liked Latin, especially my teachers and how they taught it. Junior year we translated most of the Aeneid, and senior year, since we were done with Catullus, Virgil, etc, we translated the funniest, most low-down poems. The teacher wouldn't let us take home the quizzes for fear that our parents would see them and complain to the principal.

I like Spanish as a language, but learning it just seemed fundamentally different than Latin. Year 3 of that class, we weren't allowed to talk in English which I guess is a good way to get everyone to shut up. Even before high school, I had like ~8 years of Spanish class, like once or twice a week, and I learned nothing but vocab. I didn't even know how to conjugate "to be" until 7th grade. Dora the Explorer helped a good deal. As far as latin class, we learned the common conjugations and declinations before going past 10 vocab which made it stick.

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Heyy guys. Been away for awhile. Got a job as a grounds keeper at a golf course so have not had to much time to do cool things. I finished my one game and it has been up on FGL for quite awhile, no bids yet, a lot of views, and one sponsor tracking it. Not sure what to do next to help get my game sold.

Ohhh, and I made an icon for myself, kinda. How does it look?


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At 7/6/13 06:43 PM, swishcheese wrote: Heyy guys. Been away for awhile. Got a job as a grounds keeper at a golf course so have not had to much time to do cool things. I finished my one game and it has been up on FGL for quite awhile, no bids yet, a lot of views, and one sponsor tracking it. Not sure what to do next to help get my game sold.

Ohhh, and I made an icon for myself, kinda. How does it look?

How long has it been on fgl? A trailer usually gives the game more hype, and you could pm site admins asking them as well.

What does a genie lamp have to do with swish or cheese? lol

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At 7/6/13 06:46 PM, MSGhero wrote:
At 7/6/13 06:43 PM, swishcheese wrote: Heyy guys. Been away for awhile. Got a job as a grounds keeper at a golf course so have not had to much time to do cool things. I finished my one game and it has been up on FGL for quite awhile, no bids yet, a lot of views, and one sponsor tracking it. Not sure what to do next to help get my game sold.

Ohhh, and I made an icon for myself, kinda. How does it look?
How long has it been on fgl? A trailer usually gives the game more hype, and you could pm site admins asking them as well.

What does a genie lamp have to do with swish or cheese? lol

LOL. welll.. idk. swish kinda like a wish... Genie grants wishes... cheese coming out... makes it swishcheese. It is a stretch, but I do not really have any other ideas. I got that nickname awhile ago from playing basketball. I am terrible at shooting but okay at the other things. But one day i was making every shoot i took and friends calling me swishcheese. Swish as the noise it made when i made the basket. I want a new name, but I wanna keep all my stuff still.

and it has been on for a month now. I put a walkthrough video up as the trailer. It has 22 views. I got an email saying that I should place a buy it now option on my game. I am not sure how to go about that and what price I should select for it.


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At 7/6/13 06:53 PM, swishcheese wrote: LOL. welll.. idk. swish kinda like a wish... Genie grants wishes... cheese coming out... makes it swishcheese. It is a stretch, but I do not really have any other ideas. I got that nickname awhile ago from playing basketball. I am terrible at shooting but okay at the other things. But one day i was making every shoot i took and friends calling me swishcheese. Swish as the noise it made when i made the basket. I want a new name, but I wanna keep all my stuff still.

and it has been on for a month now. I put a walkthrough video up as the trailer. It has 22 views. I got an email saying that I should place a buy it now option on my game. I am not sure how to go about that and what price I should select for it.

Well it's cheesy, I'll give you that. I have no idea, I was pretty much in the same boat with one lurker and a fair number of views. PSvils game that was on fgl got a starting bid of $50, but his game is more arcade-y than yours, so idk.

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At 7/6/13 06:59 PM, MSGhero wrote: Well it's cheesy, I'll give you that. I have no idea, I was pretty much in the same boat with one lurker and a fair number of views. PSvils game that was on fgl got a starting bid of $50, but his game is more arcade-y than yours, so idk.

lol. yeahh. Think I might make another icon that just 3D letters involved spelling out swishcheese.

And okay. I maybe just add flash ads and submit it to NG. I worked a long while on it tho, but it started off being an experiment. Then after it turned into a full game, I decided to see if I could make some money on it.


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Do you guys share the position that the gender/race of the main character in a game makes no difference to you?
I hear about the whole connecting to demographics thing but it sounds silly to me. I feel like as long as it isn't forced, stupid and jam-packed with stereotypes it shouldn't matter right? It's not like I'm saying "Down with the white male protagonists!" but I'm just saying, it seems like a bit of a cop out.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-07 17:41:23 Reply

At 7/7/13 04:53 PM, Innermike wrote: Do you guys share the position that the gender/race of the main character in a game makes no difference to you?
I hear about the whole connecting to demographics thing but it sounds silly to me. I feel like as long as it isn't forced, stupid and jam-packed with stereotypes it shouldn't matter right? It's not like I'm saying "Down with the white male protagonists!" but I'm just saying, it seems like a bit of a cop out.

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I care a lot more about whether it's a good character or not, not what race or gender they are. I'd rather play as a well written lesbian black woman than a poorly written straight white man.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-07 20:53:58 Reply

http://prntscr.com/1e4znw
oh, for fuck's sake, Microsoft.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-07 21:37:40 Reply

Well if someone wants to use IE then they deserve to view broken web pages that don't function correctly. Using IE is like driving a car with square wheels; sure it "works" but why not just use normal wheels?
Though that really sucks for people whom are working for businesses and are being forced to support IE. Fortunately I don't need to support it for anything I work on so I can just continue to not care about IE users. :)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-07 23:47:05 Reply

At 7/7/13 08:53 PM, egg82 wrote: full article

Wow, sounds like this.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-08 00:01:08 Reply

At 7/7/13 08:53 PM, egg82 wrote: http://prntscr.com/1e4znw
oh, for fuck's sake, Microsoft.

full article

I don't see the problem.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-08 00:22:58 Reply

At 7/8/13 12:01 AM, Innermike wrote: I don't see the problem.

The problem is Microsoft's hiding their browser from anyone trying to code for it. Currently, you're able to say "if IE then do this, else do this" because IE follows its own rules instead of the standards every other browser uses.
With IE 11, they're now hiding their browser so you can no longer say "if IE do this" because apparently they're so confident in their browser that they're going "you don't need to know which browser the client is using" - which is really, really bad for developers.

Look, no browser's perfect. Each one has their own things you may need to deal with (most of which are minor and are hardly ever used, thankfully) - hiding your platform from people trying to work with your platform isn't good. At all.

Say, for example, that something goes wrong and it turns out IE doesn't follow some standard you need it to? Well, you're screwed, because now you can't check and accommodate.
Every other browser has information regarding which browser it is. In case, you know, god forbid something happens and you need to accommodate.
Now let's pretend we're data mining and are trying to see how many people are using the new browser- oh, wait, we can't.

Basically, they're pretending their next browser's perfect in every way and screwing developers over just to try to prove a point. Which they statistically will almost assuredly fail at.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-08 01:13:40 Reply

At 7/8/13 12:22 AM, egg82 wrote: Say, for example, that something goes wrong and it turns out IE doesn't follow some standard you need it to? Well, you're screwed

No you're not. IE11 still has a user agent; it's just not a comparable one used by all previous versions. It just means that legacy code won't be able to detect IE11. You will still be able to write new code to do it: instead of searching for MSIE in the user agent you will now need to search for the existence of Trident, or rv 11.0, or both. It's incredibly stupid on Microsoft's part (they've been doing a lot of stupid things lately) but it's not impossible to detect IE11.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-08 06:56:10 Reply

At 7/8/13 12:22 AM, egg82 wrote: The problem is Microsoft's hiding their browser from anyone trying to code for it. Currently, you're able to say "if IE then do this, else do this" because IE follows its own rules instead of the standards every other browser uses.
With IE 11, they're now hiding their browser so you can no longer say "if IE do this" because apparently they're so confident in their browser that they're going "you don't need to know which browser the client is using" - which is really, really bad for developers.

Actually, it's better to detect if a feature is available than to detect if the browser is IE. After all, there are browsers other than IE, Chrome, Firefox, Opera and Safari that people do use, and they may also lack features that IE lacks.

Nevertheless, I believe Microsoft's move is not aimed at reducing this practice...

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-07-08 09:52:01 Reply

I didn't pay much attention to this facebook graph search, and frankly it doesn't seem like it's all that useful in its current stage. I just realised, though, how much of a threat it poses to google and all other general search engines.

Google is amazing in its sheer breadth and size. It mines data from billions upon billions of sources. And yet, to what extent do people really use the power of google? I'd bet that a large portion of google searches are just simple practical every-day life related searches, like looking up restaurants/stores in a certain area, finding doctors, researching information for travel plans. Probably another big portion is to look up answer for common questions like household problems, health issues, etc. Of these two areas, I predict that facebook will completely take over the first one. Google has an immense breadth of sources, but facebook has what really matters: social information about you, and the ability to provide you with search results by using your and your friends' social information. Reliability by using the people you know and trust.

Right now, for example, I am making plans for a holiday in the philippines. As an avid user of google, I am very happy to go look through 20 links, and read up on reviews and articles pertaining to the security ratings and general ratings of every filippino airline. It's not too time consuming for me, but it may be for people who are not as agile with the internet. Now think about facebook graph and what you'll be able to do with it as they keep developing. I am concerned with the security of philippine based airlines. One way is, as I mentioned, to do an exhaustive internet search and read writings of people I don't know (but can trust to varying degrees based on their writing, and on the website in question). Another option is to do a facebook graph search for friends who have flown in the philippines. Which airlines did they choose? Maybe I want to narrow down the search a little bit. Look up only friends whose judgement I trust. Maybe I can, as part of the search options, limit my search to people from a certain group in my university, to a branch at my workplace, to my family, etc.

I think that as the facebook-using world keeps going, facebook is going to own more and more information of better and better quality. In my fantasies, this will fuse with nano computers and a proof that P=NP, to create a climax of the age of information. A race of virtually-omniscient men. (virtually, here, works in both senses of the word ;)). Although -- at that point, the information technology wouldn't really have anything to do with facebook graph search anymore, lol.


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