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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 10:44:03 Reply

At 4/1/13 10:42 AM, egg82 wrote:
At 4/1/13 02:17 AM, PMMurphy wrote: well i just learned actionscript is a open-source language.
... wait, what?
I must see this for myself, because I have sooooo many questions about the regular AS3 code (globalplayer.swc) that I want answers to.

At 4/1/13 09:23 AM, Rustygames wrote: Also I was too lazy to read everything (sorry) but is anyone suggesting network comms are restricted in the flash player for web? Because that's obviously not true
I am.
Well, kinda.

I'm saying until you jump through a set of security hoops, network operations are restricted to the point of almost nonexistent.

Which is completely true :P

Network operations as in HTTP? Because there are no security hoops to jump through for that at all. How do you think the Newgrounds API works for example


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 10:58:38 Reply

At 4/1/13 10:44 AM, Rustygames wrote: Network operations as in HTTP? Because there are no security hoops to jump through for that at all. How do you think the Newgrounds API works for example

you need to load in the XML policy file and add the Security.allow-whatever line, or else it won't work outside a sandbox environment.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:00:33 Reply

At 4/1/13 10:58 AM, egg82 wrote:
At 4/1/13 10:44 AM, Rustygames wrote: Network operations as in HTTP? Because there are no security hoops to jump through for that at all. How do you think the Newgrounds API works for example
you need to load in the XML policy file and add the Security.allow-whatever line, or else it won't work outside a sandbox environment.

Nope you needn't worry. Unless you mean putting a crossdomain.xml policy on your server but that will be required for anything.

Trust me, network comms are absolutely fine in Flash, you don't have to jump through any unnecessary hoops :)


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:02:04 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:00 AM, Rustygames wrote: Nope you needn't worry. Unless you mean putting a crossdomain.xml policy on your server but that will be required for anything.

that's exactly what I mean :P


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:04:31 Reply

WHOA WAIT WHAT?!

All of a sudden I have the ability to edit my posts.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:05:06 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:02 AM, egg82 wrote:
At 4/1/13 11:00 AM, Rustygames wrote: Nope you needn't worry. Unless you mean putting a crossdomain.xml policy on your server but that will be required for anything.
that's exactly what I mean :P

It's really not a big deal to add it. That's for your server's protection, not the flash itself


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:06:06 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:04 AM, egg82 wrote: WHOA WAIT WHAT?!

All of a sudden I have the ability to edit my posts.

Shit me too :D


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:12:46 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:05 AM, Rustygames wrote: It's really not a big deal to add it. That's for your server's protection, not the flash itself

Plus the static Security class, which is protecting the client's Flash Player, somehow. You need to add a security exception for that website in the client in order to use it as well. So both client and server need something for them both to communicate.

At 4/1/13 11:06 AM, Rustygames wrote: Shit me too :D

Methinks this is a supporter-only feature, for a few reasons.
Also, doesn't work quite yet, it seems. Give them a minute, it only just got put in.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:20:02 Reply

At 3/31/13 10:31 PM, PMMurphy wrote: You gotta find algorithms that solve anything thrown at you and it should work on nxn sized boards where n is any given number from 0 to infinity.

For a very simple tic-tac-toe AI the Minimax Algorithm (from game theory) is very easy and cheap to implement and it works on a board of any size, provided that you configure it properly. I'm guessing that it's what the "senior" used to get such an intelligent agent in 40-50 lines. If you want to get fancy about it you can prune game trees and search heuristically without affecting the result.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:28:45 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:12 AM, egg82 wrote:
At 4/1/13 11:05 AM, Rustygames wrote: It's really not a big deal to add it. That's for your server's protection, not the flash itself
Plus the static Security class, which is protecting the client's Flash Player, somehow. You need to add a security exception for that website in the client in order to use it as well. So both client and server need something for them both to communicate.

No I don't think you have to do anything like that. I actually make gambling games for a living and we have to connect to back ends which generate the results and account info etc and we never have to do anything with security in terms of allowing Flash to connect to a server with HTTP

At 4/1/13 11:06 AM, Rustygames wrote: Shit me too :D
Methinks this is a supporter-only feature, for a few reasons.
Also, doesn't work quite yet, it seems. Give them a minute, it only just got put in.

I think it's a lame April fools joke


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:37:35 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:28 AM, Rustygames wrote: I think it's a lame April fools joke

Its super lame!


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 11:50:27 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:28 AM, Rustygames wrote: No I don't think you have to do anything like that. I actually make gambling games for a living and we have to connect to back ends which generate the results and account info etc and we never have to do anything with security in terms of allowing Flash to connect to a server with HTTP

hmm, that's odd...
Oh, wait, maybe if the Flash in question is on the site itself you don't need to allow security access in the client? That would make sense.

At 4/1/13 11:06 AM, Rustygames wrote:
I think it's a lame April fools joke

Damnit, I thought yesterday was April the first >.<'


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 12:02:12 Reply

speaking of April Fool's...


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 12:12:29 Reply

At 4/1/13 12:02 PM, egg82 wrote: speaking of April Fool's...

Google always does a wonderful job with their April Fools' gimmicks. Google Maps' Treasure Hunting is my favorite this year.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 12:20:53 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:50 AM, egg82 wrote:
At 4/1/13 11:28 AM, Rustygames wrote: No I don't think you have to do anything like that. I actually make gambling games for a living and we have to connect to back ends which generate the results and account info etc and we never have to do anything with security in terms of allowing Flash to connect to a server with HTTP
hmm, that's odd...
Oh, wait, maybe if the Flash in question is on the site itself you don't need to allow security access in the client? That would make sense.

Nah you don't need it. You can try it yourself by making an empty flash which just loads google.com. Upload it on newgrounds and it will work just fine :)


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 16:20:16 Reply

At 4/1/13 11:20 AM, Archawn wrote:
At 3/31/13 10:31 PM, PMMurphy wrote: You gotta find algorithms that solve anything thrown at you and it should work on nxn sized boards where n is any given number from 0 to infinity.
For a very simple tic-tac-toe AI the Minimax Algorithm (from game theory) is very easy and cheap to implement and it works on a board of any size, provided that you configure it properly. I'm guessing that it's what the "senior" used to get such an intelligent agent in 40-50 lines. If you want to get fancy about it you can prune game trees and search heuristically without affecting the result.

yea he did something simple. But using algorithms that already exsist is easy. I wan't to make my own from scratch and trial and error.

I used heuristic searches in mine because i read it in a technical paper for an agent that plays checkers. But i chose that particular paper because i want to revolve my AI's around the technique being used so i wanted to practice the easy stuff first.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-01 17:09:26 Reply

so i looked at the minimax algorithm.

I basically implemented that algorithm without the calculus. (the minimizing and maximizing).

Also i didn't make a tree. I didn't know what they are. I am currently learning trees in class right now.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 11:53:03 Reply

I got really bored

questions? Comments? Suggestions?

I didn't really thoroughly test these, I just kinda threw them together because I either needed them now or thought there was a good possibility i'd need them later.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 11:58:32 Reply

At 4/2/13 11:53 AM, egg82 wrote: Suggestions?

Watch Breaking Bad or play Dota 2.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 12:14:52 Reply

At 4/2/13 11:58 AM, MSGhero wrote:
At 4/2/13 11:53 AM, egg82 wrote: Suggestions?
Watch Breaking Bad or play Dota 2.

Or watch DotA 2!

NTH against Empire in a couple of hours.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 12:22:45 Reply

How was GDC for people who went? I'd love to hear a description from actual people I know

Also, how in the hell is it possible that like 3 years ago I could come on here with a practically non-existant skill level and find people to work with and yet now that I can actually code fairly well finding someone on any site ever is simply impossible? I'm pretty sure I have a better chance of winning the damn lottery.

I only vent so much here because nobody I know outside of this thread would get it

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 12:35:40 Reply

At 4/2/13 12:22 PM, Innermike wrote: Also, how in the hell is it possible that like 3 years ago I could come on here with a practically non-existant skill level and find people to work with and yet now that I can actually code fairly well finding someone on any site ever is simply impossible? I'm pretty sure I have a better chance of winning the damn lottery.
I only vent so much here because nobody I know outside of this thread would get it

Maybe traffic to the site, maybe your prof pic scares them, maybe the time of day you post/ask. Also, most people are in the collabinator now.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 12:37:12 Reply

At 4/2/13 12:14 PM, Sam wrote: NTH against Empire in a couple of hours.

Tell a lie, it's on the 4th. M'bad.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 12:41:06 Reply

modified Client and WebLoader.

what's all the hype around DotA2? It looks like a fun game that i'd enjoy playing for a bit, but really. lol


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 12:55:07 Reply

At 4/2/13 12:41 PM, egg82 wrote: modified Client and WebLoader.

what's all the hype around DotA2? It looks like a fun game that i'd enjoy playing for a bit, but really. lol

It's sorta hard to understand coming from LoL. It's very challenging/rewarding, fun when your team doesn't suck, doesn't have a strict and stale meta, you snowball harder, every skill is OP...idk just try it. I have like 10 beta keys lol, so pm me your steam id if you want one.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 13:20:52 Reply

At 4/2/13 12:55 PM, MSGhero wrote: It's sorta hard to understand coming from LoL. It's very challenging/rewarding, fun when your team doesn't suck, doesn't have a strict and stale meta, you snowball harder, every skill is OP...idk just try it. I have like 10 beta keys lol, so pm me your steam id if you want one.

I do play LoL a bit, it's pretty fun :P
Yeah, i'd love to try DotA out and see what I can't see.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 13:23:18 Reply

At 4/2/13 12:22 PM, Innermike wrote: How was GDC for people who went? I'd love to hear a description from actual people I know

It was actually a really..overwhelming experience. I think I've met more people in 4 days than I have during my whole life. It was very exhausting, but I feel it was very much worth it. Once I recovered a bit, I found it be a very awesome experience.

The most surreal part was seeing all those people I've known for years as merely usernames on a screen, in real life. And to actually meet people in real life who played the flash version of Concerned Joe.

I'll be writing up a more in-depth post about GDC and the whole experience soon either on my newspost or on the concerned joe blog, or both.

None of those gamespot, IGN, kotaku or big press sites ever came down to GDC Play, which was kind of disappointing, but we did get some attention:

www.venturebeat.com/2013/03/29/two-kids-made-my-favorite-gam e-at-gdc-concerned-joe/

And these guys are making a movie about indie games, and they filmed us for a bit.

We were recording people playing Joe with a webcam, so we'll have a timelapse soon-ish as well.

Also, how in the hell is it possible that like 3 years ago I could come on here with a practically non-existant skill level and find people to work with and yet now that I can actually code fairly well finding someone on any site ever is simply impossible? I'm pretty sure I have a better chance of winning the damn lottery.
I only vent so much here because nobody I know outside of this thread would get it

I don't understand that either. Has PMing random artists not worked out for you? Or looking for threads where the artist is looking for a programmer. I don't think I've ever made a thread asking for an artist in my life, I've always worked on someone else's project until we formed a partnership.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 14:10:51 Reply

You're famous, 4ur! :D

on another note: oh my


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 15:32:44 Reply

At 4/2/13 12:41 PM, egg82 wrote: It looks like a fun game that i'd enjoy playing for a bit

get 200 hours in it and then you should finally understand the game enough to enjoy it

lol

"a bit"

lol

maybe 1000 hours later you actually start being good at it

lol

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2013-04-02 16:57:13 Reply

At 4/2/13 03:32 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:
At 4/2/13 12:41 PM, egg82 wrote: It looks like a fun game that i'd enjoy playing for a bit
get 200 hours in it and then you should finally understand the game enough to enjoy it

lol

"a bit"

lol

maybe 1000 hours later you actually start being good at it

lol

help me

Haha, I just got my 1000th game played. You'll play for a bit and then realize a month has passed. That was basically my last summer.