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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 23rd, 2012 @ 04:01 PM Reply

At 10/22/12 07:23 PM, Toast wrote: Stuff

Yeah I've seen those guys posting on here a bit. I'm the same as you, read it every now and again but rarely post.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 24th, 2012 @ 04:25 PM Reply

Handling and transitioning between different game states and sub states is probably my least favourite thing to do.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 24th, 2012 @ 05:14 PM Reply

At 10/24/12 04:25 PM, Innermike wrote: Handling and transitioning between different game states and sub states is probably my least favourite thing to do.

It's so easy when you use a state machine :)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 24th, 2012 @ 07:48 PM Reply

i'm getting so distracted with Dragon Age:Origins - at this point i'm just trying to finish the game quickly so I don't keep thinking about it while programming.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 05:03 PM Reply

At 10/24/12 07:48 PM, egg82 wrote: i'm getting so distracted with Dragon Age:Origins - at this point i'm just trying to finish the game quickly so I don't keep thinking about it while programming.

i've decided to drop out of the ASWars. It's fun and all, but I don't have the math skills required to create the bot that I want in the time allocated. I may continue to work on it outside of ASWars if I have time.

The largest problem was pressure. I do absoluely terribly under pressure. I kept saying everything it was going to do and I started seriously doubting myself, so I procrastinated until it was too late.

besides, it frees me up to finish my homework, and that in turn frees me up to do something that I can take with me (like GoO)

so I suppose if I had an unlimited amount of time to do something in I can do just about anything I set myself to do in a reasonable amount of time, but if there's a limited time then I doubt myself and automatically set myself up for failure.
Must remember to work on that...


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 05:15 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 05:03 PM, egg82 wrote: i've decided to drop out of the ASWars. It's fun and all, but I don't have the math skills required to create the bot that I want in the time allocated. I may continue to work on it outside of ASWars if I have time.

Aww, we were gonna have our bots specifically target yours first.

Y'know, when I actually start mine...too busy with hw and looking for research and adding a minor and junk

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 05:23 PM Reply

I'm bored. Wanted to slap this project up some time. Persistent world, pseudo-multiplayer, narrative based side scroller. If someone plays in the next little bit, I will play with them. Anyone can join.

WASD to move. Hold space to add light to the world. You have limited light. Multiple people required to finish it. Some sound is in it.

Play Here

World will be completely dark as of this post. Any light you see will have been created by another person. Nothing crazy, but it was fun to make and present.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 06:24 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 05:03 PM, egg82 wrote:
At 10/24/12 07:48 PM, egg82 wrote: i'm getting so distracted with Dragon Age:Origins - at this point i'm just trying to finish the game quickly so I don't keep thinking about it while programming.
i've decided to drop out of the ASWars. It's fun and all, but I don't have the math skills required to create the bot that I want in the time allocated. I may continue to work on it outside of ASWars if I have time.

I disagree. Regardless of whether you continue working on your bot or not in your free time, you DO need to submit something in on monday. There's already low participation as it is, I don't need to remind you of the current state of the NG BBS flash community. You don't have to win. You don't have to make the best bot. You're not the favorite to win the tournament. You may win. But you might also lose. Enter the AS wars for the purpose of each year's AS wars: interact with your community, have fun, and most importantly: participate in a unique event of seeing a creation of yours try to obliterate your friends' creations with lasers and mines - an event that you might not have the chance to participate in many times in your life.

No one here is spending day and night making their bots. As much as some of us might be competitive in nature and may want to win this thing, no one's gonna make a perfect bot. The end result will be a bunch of bots, some better than others, but most importantly all different from each other, and interesting battles will come not from the greatest bot, but from badly programmed bots, and bots with cheeky strategies to compensate for lack of math skills etc.

Do enter the AS wars. Finish whatever you can, it doesn't matter how good it is, it only matters that you submit something that can walk and shoot on monday.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 06:50 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 06:24 PM, Toast wrote: Do enter the AS wars. Finish whatever you can, it doesn't matter how good it is, it only matters that you submit something that can walk and shoot on monday.

if I submitted a bot that wasn't my best i'd feel like a failure.
It sounds cowardly (and it probably is) but I prefer running away to feeling like a failure.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 06:55 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 06:50 PM, egg82 wrote: if I submitted a bot that wasn't my best i'd feel like a failure.

^which is why I can't finish any project that I start. Hell of a handicap, eh?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 06:59 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 06:55 PM, egg82 wrote:
At 10/25/12 06:50 PM, egg82 wrote: if I submitted a bot that wasn't my best i'd feel like a failure.
^which is why I can't finish any project that I start. Hell of a handicap, eh?

Bullshit. Stop making up excuses for yourself to feel better about this. Everyone can tell themselves they have problems finishing stuff to make it easier on them to get comfortable with not finishing anything. Just submit your bot on monday for crying out loud. Don't make such a big deal out of it.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 07:15 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 06:59 PM, Toast wrote: Bullshit. Stop making up excuses for yourself to feel better about this. Everyone can tell themselves they have problems finishing stuff to make it easier on them to get comfortable with not finishing anything. Just submit your bot on monday for crying out loud. Don't make such a big deal out of it.

part of the problem here is that you think i'm just making excuses and i'm trying to get attention or something.
Well, i'm not. Those are quite honestly the exact reasons that I have decided not to submit anything on Monday.

the proof is in the innumerable projects I have mostly done, and the few projects I have actually completed.
mate, i'm not lying.

so, i'm asking for some help. To put it bluntly (rather than making more posts of the same issue, here) - would anyone be willing to (personally) help me try to get over this whole "fear of failure" thing, or whatever it is?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 07:42 PM Reply

Now I remember what it was about the people here I didn't like.

Think of it this way, if your bot did achieve everything you envisioned for it and it just obliterated everyone without losing a point of health, where would be the fun in that? I bet nobody would even bother watching more than one match.
lvl 44 Pikachu vs lvl 37 Raichu - Fun battle. lvl 44 Pikachu vs lvl 100 Rayquaza - BORING.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 08:00 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 07:42 PM, Innermike wrote: Now I remember what it was about the people here I didn't like.

and what about the people that honestly need help?

Think of it this way, if your bot did achieve everything you envisioned for it and it just obliterated everyone without losing a point of health, where would be the fun in that? I bet nobody would even bother watching more than one match.
lvl 44 Pikachu vs lvl 37 Raichu - Fun battle. lvl 44 Pikachu vs lvl 100 Rayquaza - BORING.

the biggest problem is myself. I am my own worst enemy. It doesn't matter to me if it's fun or boring or whatever. As soon as I label myself a failure i'm done. External influence can affect this, but most of he time does not.

no, i'm not depressed or have a superiority complex (I might, haven't thought about it yet. That's another issue altogether either way) - but I recognize when I have a problem that I can't solve alone. This is one of them, so i'm asking for help.
Has anyone else been in this situation, and if so how did you get past it?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 08:08 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 08:00 PM, egg82 wrote: Has anyone else been in this situation, and if so how did you get past it?

Manmode. Give zero fucks about what other people think. Bitchslap your inner self. Get to work. Hit submit.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 08:12 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 08:08 PM, MSGhero wrote: Manmode. Give zero fucks about what other people think. Bitchslap your inner self. Get to work. Hit submit.

I usually don't give a crap what other people think, which is why external influence doesn't affect this much :P

hmm... I suppose what i'm asking is "how do I keep myself motivated?" - even when every part of me screams for me to quit the project, even for a while? The "quit the project" part gets exponentially stronger the closer to the end I get.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 08:21 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 08:12 PM, egg82 wrote: hmm... I suppose what i'm asking is "how do I keep myself motivated?" - even when every part of me screams for me to quit the project, even for a while? The "quit the project" part gets exponentially stronger the closer to the end I get.

That's normal, just something you have to overcome. It helps to set goals and give yourself penalties for not completing them.

In the end, though, it's up to you. It's a solo quest in an MMORPG.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 08:26 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 08:21 PM, MSGhero wrote: In the end, though, it's up to you. It's a solo quest in an MMORPG.

but I can't do it by myself >.<

someone pointed me to this, in case that helps anyone with the same problem in the future.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 08:52 PM Reply

My dad's family doctor in Israel had a story. In the nazi concentration camp, suddenly half of the people who used to have asthma did not suffer from asthma anymore. Moral of the story? Sometimes your problems are not real problems, but only problems you make yourself believe you have when you are bathed in the luxuries of modern life. Sometimes you need to man up a bit, and calm down, take a look at things from a broader perspective and see if you might not be bullshitting yourself about your capabilities and your shortcomings.

Do try to be less of an ass in general, though. Mike does kind of have a point there.

At 10/25/12 08:12 PM, egg82 wrote: I usually don't give a crap what other people think, which is why external influence doesn't affect this much :P

Not only does this contradict what you said earlier on this page about fear of failure, but also, going through your posts it is pretty damn obvious that you care what others think.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1321798

Your posts here just scream for **exactly** caring about validation among others, and a concern for what others think. A guy comes with a problem he has. Simple procedure would be to direct him to the answer of his problem and end there. Less simple procedure, is ignoring his problem, instead insisting that even a solution to his problem as he envisions it (aka bullet rebounds and maintains its shape) is wrong, and forcing upon him different solutions which he never asked for (bullet exploding upon impact with wall, or being disfigured - for realism). It should be obvious for a normal person that this is a flash game with the purpose to create media and entertain. Real-world realism **so** obviously does not matter here. And to go on about with text-walls on drag coefficient, energy calculations (joules ?? in flash games?), and proclaimed NASA equations? Someone who goes this far into trying to correct other people without realising that none of this fucking matters for a simple bullet ricochet in a flash game no doubt has very big concerns of what others think of him.

The sad thing is that you're a mess at that, too. If you're going to be an ass to people or try to correct people, you should at least make sure to have flawless knowledge of the subject in which you're intending to deliver the ass-kick. I just don't know what to say when I see you ending on that half page dribble about physics that doesn't have a single thing to do with the topic in question. I don't even know what result you reached, or what's your conclusion. I don't see sense in anything that you're trying to calculate - even if we DID assume that the subject in question requires the methods of physical mechanics, and not just playing around with numbers in flash.

To those who have hung out here a while, the NG BBS is infamous for accommodating people who shit-talk others when they correct them in technical subjects like math/phys/programming. What made these people outstanding though, is that on top of being assholes, you could never catch them being wrong or lackluster in any of the conversations they'd participate in. Since this is the internet and social standards are different, I wouldn't say being an ass is all that bad, just make sure you know what you're talking about when you're being an ass, or you end up looking like a fool.

To end my post: I want to remind that really, the point I'm trying to bring across here is mostly what I wrote in the first paragraph, and the reason why I went on a bit of a rant about your posting habits is because it's more fun to criticise others than to dish out anecdotal knowledge from my father's life lessons. So yeah. The asthma thing.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 09:10 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 08:52 PM, Toast wrote: **exactly**
**so**

Pah, I've been away from NG for too long... Why the hell am I using reddit markup in here? >.<


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 09:34 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 08:52 PM, Toast wrote: My dad's family doctor in Israel had a story. In the nazi concentration camp, suddenly half of the people who used to have asthma did not suffer from asthma anymore. Moral of the story? Sometimes your problems are not real problems, but only problems you make yourself believe you have when you are bathed in the luxuries of modern life. Sometimes you need to man up a bit, and calm down, take a look at things from a broader perspective and see if you might not be bullshitting yourself about your capabilities and your shortcomings.

I am (aren't we all?) - i'm not asking what they are because I know what they are. I like to think I know myself well enough that I can't lie to myself. Not unless I want to believe my own lie.
What i'm asking for is help in getting through this. I'm asking if anyone else has has the same issues and if they have figured out a way to at least "ignore" them so they can get things done.

Do try to be less of an ass in general, though. Mike does kind of have a point there.

o.o huh? I'm not sure what you mean.
I'm sorry if I seems like i'm being an ass or i'm trying to get attention, but i'm really not.

it's frustrating trying to defend myself when i'm asking for help.

Not only does this contradict what you said earlier on this page about fear of failure, but also, going through your posts it is pretty damn obvious that you care what others think.

I care what others think, yes, but not what they think of me. Wherever they get the knowledge from, I don't care. All I care is that people are doing the right thing with the correct information.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1321798

Your posts here just scream for **exactly** caring about validation among others, and a concern for what others think. A guy comes with a problem he has. Simple procedure would be to direct him to the answer of his problem and end there. Less simple procedure, is ignoring his problem, instead insisting that even a solution to his problem as he envisions it (aka bullet rebounds and maintains its shape) is wrong, and forcing upon him different solutions which he never asked for (bullet exploding upon impact with wall, or being disfigured - for realism). It should be obvious for a normal person that this is a flash game with the purpose to create media and entertain. Real-world realism **so** obviously does not matter here. And to go on about with text-walls on drag coefficient, energy calculations (joules ?? in flash games?), and proclaimed NASA equations? Someone who goes this far into trying to correct other people without realising that none of this fucking matters for a simple bullet ricochet in a flash game no doubt has very big concerns of what others think of him.

ah, one of my "research" posts. Those are fun when i'm in the mood for them.

I don't pretend to be completely "immune" to wanting attention. Of course I want some attention and some recognition. What i'm saying is what strangers think of me is completely irrelevant to my life and most of the time i'll treat it as such.

The sad thing is that you're a mess at that, too. If you're going to be an ass to people or try to correct people, you should at least make sure to have flawless knowledge of the subject in which you're intending to deliver the ass-kick. I just don't know what to say when I see you ending on that half page dribble about physics that doesn't have a single thing to do with the topic in question. I don't even know what result you reached, or what's your conclusion. I don't see sense in anything that you're trying to calculate - even if we DID assume that the subject in question requires the methods of physical mechanics, and not just playing around with numbers in flash.

thanks.

To those who have hung out here a while, the NG BBS is infamous for accommodating people who shit-talk others when they correct them in technical subjects like math/phys/programming. What made these people outstanding though, is that on top of being assholes, you could never catch them being wrong or lackluster in any of the conversations they'd participate in. Since this is the internet and social standards are different, I wouldn't say being an ass is all that bad, just make sure you know what you're talking about when you're being an ass, or you end up looking like a fool.

has it ever come to your attention that sometimes I actually like playing the fool? It's more fun than being a boring stiff in a suit.
that specific post could have gone better, yes, but I was basically trying to add some fun into it and add that i'm not perfect. It wound up getting squished down at the bottom so it didn't turn out too well. Ah, well, what can you do?

aside from that, generally there are plenty of people writing a solution to the main problem while i'm writing my posts. So instead of adding to it all, I try and look at what's going on behind the scenes and correct what I find there. Again, i'm not perfect, so I get things wrong. What's more, i'm still new to the whole AS3/OOP thing, so I get things wrong more often that I would otherwise.

To end my post: I want to remind that really, the point I'm trying to bring across here is mostly what I wrote in the first paragraph, and the reason why I went on a bit of a rant about your posting habits is because it's more fun to criticise others than to dish out anecdotal knowledge from my father's life lessons. So yeah. The asthma thing.

well, you've certainly proved that point.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 09:41 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 05:03 PM, egg82 wrote: I kept saying everything it was going to do and I started seriously doubting myself, so I procrastinated until it was too late.

Huh. Kinda sounds like me. And I don't know how to start small because my personal standards simply won't allow it, rofl!

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At 10/25/12 09:41 PM, Fooliolo wrote: Huh. Kinda sounds like me. And I don't know how to start small because my personal standards simply won't allow it, rofl!

egos are funny sometimes, aren't they? xD

At least you're honest.

I try to be. There's a few issues with being as honest as possible, and those few thing will come back and bite you in the ass pretty damn hard.
(ie. telling someone the whole truth about you when you first meet them. Nobody wants or needs that kind of weight on them. It's better for everyone if you simply lie, and then reconcile later when they actually begin to understand you.)


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lol personal problems

Luis' tennis game looks like it's got some pretty schlick graphics huh? http://luiscastanon.com/images/p1_animated.gif

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 10:32 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 10:26 PM, Innermike wrote: Luis' tennis game looks like it's got some pretty schlick graphics huh? http://luiscastanon.com/images/p1_animated.gif

indie game or handheld game?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 25th, 2012 @ 10:48 PM Reply

At 10/25/12 10:32 PM, egg82 wrote: indie game or handheld game?

what I meant by that was:
indie computer game or a large company's handheld game? (couldn't tell)

I will amend that to:
what's going on, now? o.o (I understand this is Luis's work, but for what?)


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At 10/25/12 10:48 PM, egg82 wrote: I will amend that to:
what's going on, now? o.o (I understand this is Luis's work, but for what?)

http://luis.newgrounds.com/news/post/754646

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At 10/25/12 10:26 PM, Innermike wrote: Luis' tennis game looks like it's got some pretty schlick graphics huh? http://luiscastanon.com/images/p1_animated.gif

Those look good, damn

At 10/25/12 11:27 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: On a separate note, lots of goats and cows are going to be slaughtered today. That is all.

I...never mind.

How do you guys deal with teammates who don't communicate much or don't meet deadlines? I've had a few of these, idk if it's me and my attitude towards completion (lazy) or I'm just bad at picking people. As I type this, my artist sends me the art I asked for; but for other people I've worked with, I guess.

This question applies to game making as much as it does to Dota 2
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At 10/26/12 12:04 AM, MSGhero wrote:
How do you guys deal with teammates who don't communicate much or don't meet deadlines? I've had a few of these, idk if it's me and my attitude towards completion (lazy) or I'm just bad at picking people. As I type this, my artist sends me the art I asked for; but for other people I've worked with, I guess.

They're usually hard to work with obviously, but if you cant really communicate/work together well as a team you should move on, because once you find that person you can work well as a team. you feel like you're producing magic. at times.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge Oct. 26th, 2012 @ 09:01 AM Reply

At 10/26/12 12:04 AM, MSGhero wrote: This question applies to game making as much as it does to Dota 2

Hit the nail on the head, my friend.

cyka