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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-17 17:43:28 Reply

HEY guys doing ludum dare! cant' talk. heres video update. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_hWIKHgY hI

goodbye!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-17 19:00:49 Reply

Travis

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AS3 or JAVA

AS2

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Programming/ Game Programming

the drive to create games and online tutorials.

Flash is cool, good way to play free games online.

Hobby, but also make money off of it.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-18 00:21:46 Reply

At 12/17/11 05:33 PM, Sam wrote: Nape is awesome.

What is something awesome that you've done or seen with Nape? Like, I saw a bridge created in box2d earlier today and destructible terrain earlier this week, and I didn't know boxnape could do cool stuff like that.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-18 03:39:31 Reply

At 12/18/11 12:21 AM, MSGhero wrote:
At 12/17/11 05:33 PM, Sam wrote: Nape is awesome.
What is something awesome that you've done or seen with Nape? Like, I saw a bridge created in box2d earlier today and destructible terrain earlier this week, and I didn't know boxnape could do cool stuff like that.

I tinkered with a few physics engines about 4 months back. Box2D - whilst seemed much more powerful than other engines, was much too complex to set up basic scenes (which was what I intended to do at the time). I also used APE, however, it was discontinued and lacked pretty essential methods you'd expect in a physics engine. There were some third party solutions to them, additions to classes and such, but even so, documentation and support was minimal.

I don't remember how I stumbled upon NAPE - perhaps Delta posting here - but the set up was extremely easy and understandable, the documentation is brilliant considering it's a one man development team and the demos Delta posts really surprised me at first in terms of the speed and functionality.

Personally, I haven't done anything great with it and I did it mainly as research but with each revision, Delta shows off new demos:

http://deltaluca.me.uk/docnew/swf/WaterB alls.html

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-18 15:17:36 Reply

At 12/16/11 08:03 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: I gotta say I'm impressed with the feedback. Very impressed. But here's round two:

The future of the Flash Forum

I don't really see a bright future for this place. While it never has really been a place for "serious" problems, it always used to be a reliable source for getting real help from knowledgeable people, but at a certain point I noticed that it wasn't so helpful anymore... Maybe it was because I had more experience under my belt or because the quality of the users regularly visiting the forum degraded, but there certainly was something keeping me from going back to the Flash forum for help.

It's more of a place for beginners to discuss common problems with each other, not a place to ask for serious help about more in-depth programming issues.


Do you want this forum to become for cereal AS3 problems or for anyone?

I'd love to have a place where anyone could come for help (so the beginners would get help from the more experienced users browsing the same forum), but there'd have to be an even mix of users--a forum dominated by beginner questions and beginner users simply isn't very attractive.


How do you feel about the games factory?

Don't even get me started... I strongly disapprove.


Should this forum be renamed ActionScript?

Yes.


What other forums do you visit?

None.


What's your opinion of the forum right now?

The only useful thread I've seen in a long time is this one.


How could we improve?

Add more sticky help threads and keep a running list of threads in which common problems were addressed.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-18 16:00:07 Reply

At 12/18/11 03:17 PM, Archawn wrote:
At 12/16/11 08:03 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: How could we improve?
Add more sticky help threads and keep a running list of threads in which common problems were addressed.

Also, outlaw AS2. :D

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-18 16:45:49 Reply

I've lurked around for a fair while on and off now but for some reason.. I've never felt urged to post often.

At 12/16/11 08:03 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: I gotta say I'm impressed with the feedback. Very impressed. But here's round two:

The future of the Flash Forum

I don't know to be honest but it's not all gloom and doom. When I check out of flash community forums they aren't any better (Kongregate for example is even more immature)

Do you want this forum to become for cereal AS3 problems or for anyone?

How do you feel about the games factory?

It's a good introduction to making games. I haven't tried it out myself but I think these game making type packages can be a decent way to get a first taste of making games.

Should this forum be renamed ActionScript?

I wouldn't of thought so. flash IDE problems fit in fine here (like accidently hitting the object drawing mode!) not all questions are purely related to scripting.

What other forums do you visit?

Stackoverflow and GameDev.net for some real troubleshooting/problem solving. Started hovering around FGL as I sold my first game there but its fairly quiet.

What's your opinion of the forum right now?

I feel the dick slinging has actually gone down as of late, but sadly that was the only thing making any noise so its ghostly quiet!

How could we improve?

I think mods in here should have ability to sticky threads. A concise list of good links to tutorials/resources around the webs for example or even a code sharing thread . Sometimes I come across something I think is cool that i'd like to share! But there doesn't seem to be a place appropriate to do so.

I also think the barrage of "Use AS3, learn OOP" doesn't help anyone. I don't know AS2 so I just stay away AS2 threads, but if a reply to a help post isn't constructive or helpful, it should at least be polite!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-18 17:33:32 Reply

At 11/10/11 01:22 PM, PSvils wrote: You know what would be fun? Getting a 3+ programming collab going, where we all make one game. Coordinating everything would be part of the game :D

I think it could be possible with a really good design document, and just good preplanning in dividing work. With yummy OOP, we could each make a piece of the puzzle, and try and fit it together eventually!

IDK, worth a try?

On another note, in an effort to get some happy-hunky-dorey-holding-hand-holding-c ommunity-spirit on the go. I'd be interested in this suggestion!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-19 14:51:00 Reply

Hey guys. Check out my finished LD22 entry. http://www.prettymuchbryce.com/ld22

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-19 16:43:39 Reply

I have a half-complete bot war app somewhere.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-19 18:56:37 Reply

At 12/19/11 02:51 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Hey guys. Check out my finished LD22 entry. http://www.prettymuchbryce.com/ld22

I thoroughly enjoyed that. :)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-20 08:22:19 Reply

At 12/19/11 02:51 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Hey guys. Check out my finished LD22 entry. http://www.prettymuchbryce.com/ld22

interesting concept, well done! :)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-21 06:26:31 Reply

Hai guiys...

Why this place so quiet?


"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."
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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-21 07:04:44 Reply

So I have a flash issue. In any browser the game will run slow, but runs fine locally in the flash player. the game is a remake of The Legend of Zelda. Anyone else experience this before? I've looked in a lot of places and found no solution to my problem. I've tried commenting out a lot of code. Luis suggested it may be the music/sounds, so I'll give that a try later today, but if anyone has an idea it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-21 22:29:02 Reply

I am not a flash regular (I haven't posted here regularly in about three and a half years, I'd say) and nowadays I rarely ever touch flash, however I was lurking here in the flash forum, looking to soak up some nostalgia and seeing this place so quiet when it used to be the second busiest forum on Newgrounds made me feel compelled to take a look at this thread, considering it's where I used to spend my early days on the site. Considering I'm here, I realised that I might as well answer those questions that still apply to me after this time away.

How do you feel about the games factory?

Although I have never personally worked in it or seen the interface of the program, the majority of games I see that have been created using it tend to be pretty generic things that rarely ever feel too polished. As I said above, I haven't seen the interface, but from the look and feel of the games I've seen in the portal using it I assume it's a matter of preset game engines with modifiable art and things such as physics properties.

Should this forum be renamed ActionScript?

Although it'd harm my sentimentality regarding it, I think this would be a pretty accurate change for the forum to undergo. Through the decision of splitting all the different aspects of flash the change pretty much makes the discussion of everything other than Actionscript ill-fitting, and as such calling it the flash forum when there are other forums pertaining primarily to subsections of flash just seems ill-fitting and I can imagine it being confusing to outsiders.

In addition, changing the name to Actionscript would likely please the regulars of the programming forum, whom I know at the very least used to be inundated (well, perhaps that's a slight exaggeration) with questions asking about actionscript despite the forum's description stating otherwise - by having a forum specifically dedicated to Actionscript I'm sure that less people would post in the wrong place due to confusion regarding the names.

What other forums do you visit?

If we're talking the other boards on Newgrounds, I primarily post on Clubs & Crews, General and Video Games, however I spend a lot of time lurking on Where is/How to? and a fair deal of time on Politics, just reading but never posting lest I make myself look like a bit of a cock considering despite being interested I'm not the best political commentator around.

If we're talking off of Newgrounds, in my times of inactivity from here I tend to lurk a few chanboards; despite the negative stereotype of their users there is actually a lot of interesting discussion, it's just under the surface somewhat.

What's your opinion of the forum right now?

I think that the flash forum, as it stands, is past its prime. I think the main reason for this is the fact that when individual forum for animation was created the previously unified flash forum began to separate from each other, causing less communication between the two sides of production, thus causing this thread to begin to lose activity and members. When members checked in here, they'd usually pass through the flash forum and if they saw anyone experiencing issues that they can help with then they would help out the person who is having the problem, and you can see now from the slower rate of questions being answered that this is definitely the case.

Along with that, the existence of collaborations in a separate forum means that unless you check up in there regularly you're less likely to end up hearing about a particular collab, and with less ideas going between members of the flash forum community (that seems, even all amalgamated together, to be smaller than the single flash forum of the past) I can imagine that even with a separate forum there will be less (successful) collaborations being created.

Admittedly, at the time I was fully in favour of the forum being separated, but looking at the flash forum in the rather quiet state it seems to be in nowadays looking at the most recent page and of this thread, I don't think as a whole it paid off. As a whole, it just seems to be a little bit more clutter on the main BBS page and needless separation.

How could we improve?

Although I acknowledge that it's unlikely to happen (to say the least) and that many people are likely to disagree with me, I think that a re-merging of the forum into one unified central flash forum would be a good step. Of course, nowadays I'm an outsider and my knowledge of the flash forum is based on the positive visions seen via my rose-tinted nostalgia goggles, but from what I've seen I think that'd be a start towards bringing this place back.

That's all for what is likely to be my first (and last) post in this thread since I was eleven. Off I go, now, although I intend to lurk a bit more to see the responses of a few other people to this questioning, especially if there are people whom I remember from my time here doing so (unlikely, most seem to have moved on long ago).


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-22 09:14:15 Reply

Probably refocusing the forum on game development or general software development is best, concerning returning any activity or relevance.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-22 14:10:30 Reply

At 12/22/11 09:14 AM, fixplz wrote: Probably refocusing the forum on game development or general software development is best, concerning returning any activity or relevance.

Actually, that's an interesting point. If we rename the forum "Actionscript", we'll not be promoting the already overlooked feature of the forum that is game design discussions, beta-testing and the like. However, it may be an increased focus on these things could breathe new life into the Flash forums. Maybe.


Doomsday-One, working on stuff better than preloaders. Marginally.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-22 19:36:13 Reply

At 12/19/11 02:51 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Hey guys. Check out my finished LD22 entry. http://www.prettymuchbryce.com/ld22

Hey, congrats on getting mentioned on IndieGames.com! (third paragraph down)


Doomsday-One, working on stuff better than preloaders. Marginally.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-22 20:22:59 Reply

At 12/22/11 07:36 PM, Doomsday-One wrote:
Hey guys. Check out my finished LD22 entry. http://www.prettymuchbryce.com/ld22
Hey, congrats on getting mentioned on IndieGames.com! (third paragraph down)

Hey neat thanks! I didn't realize that they put that on there.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-23 06:28:51 Reply

At 12/22/11 09:14 AM, fixplz wrote: Probably refocusing the forum on game development or general software development is best, concerning returning any activity or relevance.

Agreed actually. By renaming as Game Dev, instead of Actionscript or Flash, I think it could create the impression of dealing with higher level issues rather than simple syntax reference look-ups and Googling.
There would still be a few noobie topics, but imo they'd hopefully be a bit more interesting than "This doesn't work, here's my code:" followed by gazillion badly formatted lines of code.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-23 13:22:11 Reply

At 12/23/11 06:28 AM, PSvils wrote: Agreed actually. By renaming as Game Dev, instead of Actionscript or Flash, I think it could create the impression of dealing with higher level issues rather than simple syntax reference look-ups and Googling.
There would still be a few noobie topics, but imo they'd hopefully be a bit more interesting than "This doesn't work, here's my code:" followed by gazillion badly formatted lines of code.

I like this idea too. Rename the forum game development and make a separate forum for animation. I see far more game related posts in here.

Btw have a good holiday Everyone! Let's make some cool stuff in the new year!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-23 14:50:29 Reply

At 12/23/11 01:22 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: I like this idea too. Rename the forum game development and make a separate forum for animation.

Well we already have an animation forum. I do like the idea of a name change, however since Flash is used for more than games and animations I think it should be something a bit broader (Flash Development?).

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-23 19:33:03 Reply

A rename to "Actionscript and Flash" would be good. It would hopefully stop people posting Actionscript problems in the programming forum.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-23 19:49:31 Reply

Does renaming the forum really change anything? I can't imagine that there are many people lurking the bbs page and not coming here because it's called "Flash" forum and they would suddenly come here if it was named something else.


You can solve pretty much any problem you may have with AS3 by consulting the AS3 Language reference.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-24 02:16:29 Reply

Hey, guys.

Mind taking two seconds to check out this thread of mine. The more people I can get to test my flash the more wonderful data to work with.

Need to see how my flash engine preforms on other people's computers.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-24 02:49:50 Reply

At 12/23/11 07:49 PM, ProfessorFlash wrote: Does renaming the forum really change anything? I can't imagine that there are many people lurking the bbs page and not coming here because it's called "Flash" forum and they would suddenly come here if it was named something else.

Well... its a little bit fragmented i think. Like i dont think people would 'suddenly' come here, but itd atleast be a step in the right direction i think. I kind of like the idea of renaming it game/app development, then itd atleast inject some creatives back into the mix with programmers (thats not to say that programmers arent creative types of course, i dont want to get beat up in here) but like i do think that driving out the artsy side of the flash brood made for a weird rift in the forums. Which is strange in that art and programming need to work so well together in the development of games.

I dunno, i think as a game dev related forum you'd have more of the art people who are in the game dev scene take more of an active participation. Which is good. I think for the most part programmers like having creative feedback, and creative types into game development like giving it and also want to be around programmers that are into making games and stuff. Right now i feel like this forum is more of a reference guide rather than a community... maybe thats what Tom envisioned though im not sure. I just feel like making games/apps is alot more mainstream now than it probably ever has and its kind of dumb to segregate necessarily. I see the point in having an animation forum, i mean there are people who have no interest in ever dabbling in game stuff, but you also have people like me who have kind of moved on from doing animation and are more interested in making art for interactive experiences.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-24 18:34:46 Reply

At 12/24/11 02:49 AM, Luis wrote:
At 12/23/11 07:49 PM, ProfessorFlash wrote: Does renaming the forum really change anything? I can't imagine that there are many people lurking the bbs page and not coming here because it's called "Flash" forum and they would suddenly come here if it was named something else.
Stuff I agree with

I think what was cool was that before the animation forum newer people used to just see flash as flash, not strictly animation or programming, and there were a ton of people that just kinda did both, I think it added a special something, programmers can get into this kind of mindset where they just stop looking at what they're doing in a creative way after a while. I think it's essential to create unique and interesting content that people are going to want and having more artistically inclined people mixing in and out of game threads added that special something, twas fun stuff.

Anywho, haven't posted in this thread for like 6 months or something, I'll be frank about why I'm here. I've had a game on FGL for about 4 months now, and it seems nobody wants it, which I just find ridiculous, not because I think it's "such a great game" but because the previous two games I sold on FGL were done in less than a month each for 2.5k and 1k but they weretotally shitty, super buggy games what's up with that? I sent out emails to about a dozen sponsers directly and no responses in 4 months.

Am I missing something? FGL forums are meh, I figure this is the only place I can trust for experienced advice.

try it on FGL http://www.flashgamelicense.com/view_gam e.php?game_id=20607
or here http://innermike.com/flash/Defendoids.ht ml


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-24 23:34:43 Reply

http://www.deadcoats.com/

I was playing this and I realized that if Flash is going to go 3D, that damn right click menu has to go. >:(

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-25 00:18:51 Reply

At 12/24/11 11:34 PM, Archawn wrote: http://www.deadcoats.com/

I was playing this and I realized that if Flash is going to go 3D, that damn right click menu has to go. >:(

Upcoming versions of the Flash Player will address that.

http://www.bytearray.org/?p=3755


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2011-12-25 00:43:11 Reply

At 12/24/11 06:34 PM, Innermike wrote: Am I missing something? FGL forums are meh, I figure this is the only place I can trust for experienced advice.

try it on FGL http://www.flashgamelicense.com/view_gam e.php?game_id=20607
or here http://innermike.com/flash/Defendoids.ht ml

I played the game, it's really fun and looks super polished! You said no one wanted it? You stated in the feedback thread on FGL that you pressed Last Call. Even if it was a low bid, you could/should have contacted that sponsor and asked him to increase his bid to at least $X or you'll self sponsor.

Have you also tried contacting smaller sponsors? They could be very interested in trying to get such a great game for a bargain, which you actually wouldn't sell for that bargain, just get them to start a bidding war.

What's the editor's rating on this by the way?