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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 19:24:47 Reply

That's why you have the interwubs.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 19:53:23 Reply

At 6/13/10 04:24 PM, doctormario wrote:
HD and big screens completely destroyed porn.
Yes. There's nothing quite like seeing someone's shoddy clone stamp work, which is coincidentally shaped like a Caesarean section scar, on an adult film star. Fake boobs and surgically re-attached nipples didn't really benefit from the HD treatment either. I'll bet they look super in 3d. Barf.

I don't think I've seen any of that really. HD is just weird because even in real life we don't tend to see individual pores with each of their own light reflections glistening in complete focus.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 20:17:16 Reply

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory (OK, part of it is, but still)?

balablabla i criticize textbooks and i dont know what im talking about


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 20:23:15 Reply

nevermind, you're 14, you still have time


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 21:40:00 Reply

At 6/13/10 08:17 PM, Toast wrote:
At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory (OK, part of it is, but still)?
balablabla i criticize textbooks and i dont know what im talking about

balalblala i criticize other users in hopes of feeling better about myself

Shut the fuck up Toast. I'm not even going to bother arguing about this with you because you don't care the slightest as long as you get a kick out of pissing someone off.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 21:50:48 Reply

At 6/13/10 07:53 PM, Starogre wrote: I don't think I've seen any of that really. HD is just weird because even in real life we don't tend to see individual pores with each of their own light reflections glistening in complete focus.

HDTV - More lifelike than life!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 22:31:52 Reply

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: By the way, I keep discovering, more and more, just how much our textbooks lie to us.

Although I love the truth, I don't thing teaching 14-15 year olds that the hero that 'discovered' our country also raped and slaughtered the natives here is that great of an idea either.

It's better to find out on your own, later.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-13 23:20:10 Reply

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory

evolution IS a theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#List _of_notable_theories

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 00:09:40 Reply

my chair does not exist


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 00:44:50 Reply

At 6/14/10 12:09 AM, Starogre wrote: my chair does not exist

Your intelligence is a theory.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 00:56:46 Reply

@ Starogre, you are lucky. I've seen some real flimsy stuff. I still occasionally do some work for the porn industry (they pay good), and I've seen some stuff that really shouldn't have been filmed in HD. People should be blowing more of their budget on hot people, adept at getting on in new and exciting ways, than expensive cameras filming pole dancers from an Oklahoma truck stop. Eeeek.

@Archon. Most of my textbooks were bullshit when I was in school, back in the early 15th century. I can only imagine how silly they are now, with Darth Palin, and her neocon decency squad, trying to ban actual science, history, and art. Kudos to you for not letting them push the reset button on your brain.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 01:15:54 Reply

At 6/14/10 12:56 AM, doctormario wrote: @Archon. Most of my textbooks were bullshit when I was in school, back in the early 15th century.

I keep forgetting that you're about 30 years off from most people here. As far as textbooks go, i'm not gonna gripe about what info is in my schoolbooks. It's not like its important or anything rofl. And those that would fully embrace the half-truths in textbooks are probably already too far brainwashed to be helped so just forget them.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 03:24:33 Reply

At 6/14/10 01:15 AM, Josh-B wrote:
At 6/14/10 12:56 AM, doctormario wrote: @Archon. Most of my textbooks were bullshit when I was in school, back in the early 15th century.
I keep forgetting that you're about 30 years off from most people here. As far as textbooks go, i'm not gonna gripe about what info is in my schoolbooks. It's not like its important or anything rofl. And those that would fully embrace the half-truths in textbooks are probably already too far brainwashed to be helped so just forget them.

Agreed, i was reading that first part thinking he was like 17 until he said "I do work for the porn industry" and i was like ":O DOCTOR!"

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 04:35:40 Reply

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote:
At 6/13/10 06:19 PM, HDXmike wrote: Also ben school is great
Seriously, some of the bullshit in my textbooks is unbelievable.

At least your textbooks aren't over a 100 years outdated; saying that the sun is the center of the universe.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 05:41:53 Reply

The English textbooks lie but in a way that simplifies the things that would need really awkward questions, they're alright.

@Archon, Evolution is a theory in every way, as is the rest of science. Science is about coming up with theories that best fit the evidence. Every time evidence comes along that proves the theory wrong we either rethink the theory (e.g. Introduction of Einstein's theory of Relativity to expand on Newton's Laws of Motion), add to the theory (e.g. Introduction of dark matter) or get a new theory (e.g. the Theory of Evolution after Young Earth Creationism collapsed). The paradoxical thing about science is that nothing can ever be proved correct, things can only be proven wrong.
What's funny is every time we have a chemistry lesson my chemistry teacher will always state 'This isn't actually what happens but it's all you need to know".


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 05:44:57 Reply

Also, probably the most important statements in mathematics/logic ever theorised. (Again it's a theory, if it wasn't I suppose it would contradict itself.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godel%27s_i ncompleteness_theorem


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 06:04:23 Reply

At 6/14/10 05:44 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: Also, probably the most important statements in mathematics/logic ever theorised. (Again it's a theory, if it wasn't I suppose it would contradict itself.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godel%27s_i ncompleteness_theorem

Ehm not quite, Godels incompleteness theorem is proven, it is not a theory of science, but of mathematics.

Tt does not state that nothing can be proven only that an axiomatic system cannot be both complete and consistent (Aka, if everything can be proven in a system, you cannot prove that the system is actually right or not. And if you can prove that the system is consistent, there are things that cannot be proven with it)


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 06:12:33 Reply

At 6/14/10 06:04 AM, dELtaluca wrote:
Ehm not quite, Godels incompleteness theorem is proven, it is not a theory of science, but of mathematics.

Tt does not state that nothing can be proven only that an axiomatic system cannot be both complete and consistent (Aka, if everything can be proven in a system, you cannot prove that the system is actually right or not. And if you can prove that the system is consistent, there are things that cannot be proven with it)

Doesn't that kind of contradict itself? Also we base most of our modern science on mathematics so does it not relate?

i need to do more research. :(

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 08:42:53 Reply

At 6/14/10 07:08 AM, citricsquid wrote: isn't the difference that math is "absolute". It's based on a few absolute principles. Evolution is a theory because we can't prove it, but we "invented" numbers so we can say that 1+1 = 2 in absolute terms?

MAYBE NOT THIS SHIT IS COMPLICATED

But Godel's incompleteness theorem is about the fact there is no valid reason why 1+1=2. Right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations _of_mathematics#Foundational_crisis


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 09:13:40 Reply

At 6/14/10 08:42 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: But Godel's incompleteness theorem is about the fact there is no valid reason why 1+1=2. Right?

does it?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 09:39:21 Reply

At 6/14/10 05:00 AM, citricsquid wrote: school is not about teaching you things, it's about teaching you how to learn.

It's not. The only thing it teaches is to sit on your ass and take bullshit. It might be appropriate preparation for many for what they're going to be doing the rest of their life, but it has nothing on real learning.
The things you do in your free time are learning.

At 6/14/10 07:08 AM, citricsquid wrote: isn't the difference that math is "absolute". It's based on a few absolute principles

These principles are called axioms. To prove things in math, you need to take a set of axioms from which you can compose theorems, the axioms comprise a theory, and theorems are truths that can be proven within the theory. Theories are thus like objects that you can compare to see what difference the difference in their axioms makes.
Up till the twentieth century, mathematicians were looking for the 'ultimate' set of axioms that could be used to prove all truths. The theory would thus be 'complete'. They also had to take care not to accidentally include an axiom that would allow contradictory truths to be derived from the theory, because this would make the theory 'inconsistent'.
Then Godel used arithmetic to prove that there is no consistent complete theory. This led to a high suicide rate among mathematicians in the thirties.

But thus the entire point is that there are no 'absolute principles'. So there isn't an ultimate reason for 1+1=2, but you need to adopt a theory to work with symbols, and with any reasonable theory the equality would be a fact.

And there are more interesting questions in math, like P versus NP and the Curry-Howard correspondence. Give me your best guess about those and I'll explain them too. :p


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 10:09:21 Reply

At 6/14/10 08:55 AM, citricsquid wrote: fuck math

Clearly you find math DREADFUL criticsquid

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 13:00:40 Reply

At 6/14/10 09:13 AM, Toast wrote: does it?

If I could argue with that then I'd have too much spare time.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 13:40:29 Reply

I love seeing so many football games in the portal :) Games like this one is my guilty pleasure, I can play them for ages

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At 6/14/10 01:40 PM, knugen wrote: I love seeing so many football games in the portal :) Games like this one is my guilty pleasure, I can play them for ages

I was on a 1000 streak and the ball went right between my two gloves. what the FUUCK

thanks a lot knugen, there goes my night. im not gonna be able to let go of this before i get a perfect score at least on the first level.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 15:37:40 Reply

At 6/13/10 11:20 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:
At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory
evolution IS a theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#List _of_notable_theories

It is also a fact. Sort of.
We can observe the process of evolution for one, which may be what Archon was getting at. In just the same way that gravity is both a fact and a theory - we observe a mechanism or process and name it, before theorising on how it happens. The Wikipedia article linked above explains it better than me (it must have also been where I got the link to gravity - I read it years ago).
By no means is it wrong to call it a theory, but Archon isn't wrong to say that some of it is fact (although he could have worded it better).

At 6/14/10 09:13 AM, Toast wrote: does it?

"From this proposition it will follow, when arithmetical addition has been defined, that 1 + 1 = 2"
Whoops! They couldn't define addition!
We're still stuck with that sense of uncertainty that 1 + 1 may not equal 2. Well, not quite - I think addition has since been proven. But as Gust said, Godel then came along and ruined it all by saying that all their work didn't actually prove anything. Well, not in the way that they thought it did.

Anyway, enough maths talk. I'm revising for a maths exam and I know nothing (as the above makes clear to anyone who actually knows this stuff).


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 16:14:56 Reply

This sort of drama plays itself out in physics almost everyday. Ask anyone who put all their eggs into unified field theory, or string theory for that matter. It may be all very well and true, but to think it will explain everything (like Ken-star likes to say), or be immune from invalidation in 12 hours, is a complete falsehood.

Here's Doc's axiom : Physicists should not deal in absolutes. If they can't fight the urge, they should become accountants. The end. :D


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 16:18:37 Reply

At 6/14/10 03:37 PM, Doomsday-One wrote: as Gust said

I cant even count how many times I've seen that


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 16:24:25 Reply

At 6/13/10 11:20 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:
At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory
evolution IS a theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#List _of_notable_theories

Because I base my knowledge of the world on what Wikipedia says is true. Also, great job misquoting me.

At 6/14/10 03:37 PM, Doomsday-One wrote: It is also a fact. Sort of.
We can observe the process of evolution for one, which may be what Archon was getting at.

That is exactly what I was getting at.

Evolution is basically defined as a change in a population over time. Anyone who says otherwise is a complete moron--you'd have to be blind to think that everything is exactly the same as it was before and ever will be. This part of evolution has been proven.

Natural selection is also, at its roots, a fact. It has been proven that "survival of the fittest" pretty much governs nature. Now, by "fitness" I of course mean the ability of an organism to pass on its genes.

The part of evolution that tends to be more of a theory is that the part of evolution that has been proven can lead to speciation. Sure, it makes perfect sense that, if divided, one species could turn into multiple species over a long period of time, but it has not yet been proven. It is also a theory that all organisms originated from a single common ancestor. Again, completely plausible yet unproven.

I didn't think I needed to explain all of this, but apparently I overestimated most of you.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2010-06-14 16:36:58 Reply

This videoseems to explain a substantial amount of evolution. Although, like every science talk given at these conferences, they have to dumb everything down and shorten it to fit it into the talk. They never go into too much detail.


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