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At 7/31/09 05:41 PM, Toast wrote: soo i think im gonna stop flash. i noticed that in general i don't like flash games, they all seemed so rushed and unimaginative. One of the main reasons for that is probably that flash is so easy to use - even 12 year olds can learn basic AS programming and throw out a couple of games. To make real games, you need to learn C++ and know a hell of a lot more about programming, so people who get there actually put effort in their work.

Gotta agree. I think too much people release their games too early to get some comments, but they are never going to be good if you game sucks.


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At 7/31/09 06:46 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: 'Cause love's such an old fashioned word
And love
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The people on the edge of the night
And loves dares you to change our way...

of
caring about ourselves
this is our last dance
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Ahhh.. I got a new PC, well.. I bought a friends old PC for cheap, but it's ok :3 Anyway.. my TV has a VGA input (like.. all newish TVs I think?) and I thought I'd try it out. I expected it to be kinda blurry and not work as well as a proper monitor, but.. I was wrong. Resolution of 1680x1050 and it's absolutely perfect. I was using a 17" monitor, this is 28".. I think I'll stick with this a while :) Installed Windows 7 too (RC1) because it had Win XP on it and I don't want to pirate an OS so I thought this would be fine, the license doesn't run out til next year anyway.. The OS is pretty nice so far, didn't like the big icons in the taskbar at first but it does make sense now.

I couldn't fit 4 NGs side-by-side, but it's big enough :3


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At 7/31/09 09:17 PM, liaaaam wrote: I couldn't fit 4 NGs side-by-side, but it's big enough :3

Sounds very sexual Liam (unfortunately the image isnt loading). My sister hooked her laptop up to a 30inch wide screen television with a HDMI cable, I'm truly jealous :P Time to buy myself a new tele and get my Macbook on there.


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Sorry for double post geez.

I just put a link to a Newgrounds animation on Facebook - and I'm disappointed that It's text only, no image of the animation, not even the little 50x50 preview image..

Sucks :(


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At 7/31/09 10:34 PM, rikio23 wrote: hello ppl

Hi there welcome to the reg lounge. :)

I'm level 20. Suck it bitches.

not like you level even matters anyway.

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At 8/1/09 12:43 AM, Blackfang wrote:
I'm level 20. Suck it bitches.

not like you level even matters anyway.

I'm level 21. WHAT?!!?!


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At 8/1/09 01:32 AM, MichaelHurst wrote:
At 8/1/09 12:43 AM, Blackfang wrote:
I'm level 20. Suck it bitches.

not like you level even matters anyway.
I'm level 21. WHAT?!!?!

Didn't we already establish that lower levels are better?

Doomsday-One, working on stuff better than preloaders.

By the way, I made the 'Create an Animated Sprite' preloader for Sprite TV 3!


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At 7/31/09 05:41 PM, Toast wrote: soo i think im gonna stop flash...

I have to disagree here. The large number of crappy little minigames in Flash isn't a fault with the medium itself. It's just the well known fact that quick and uninspired games are more profitanble than long, imaginative ones.

Since Flash hits such a big audience so quickly, it's a natural target for people who want to make money out of their programming. It's not like other programs are more suited towards serious, imaginative games - it's just that their relative obscurity acts as a filter for people who just want to make a quick buck. Inspired Flash games exist in the same quantity as anywhere else - they just tend to get lost in the sea of greyness.

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Big Monitors

I prefer having 2 medium monitors rather than one big one. If i ever do flash i'll have my code on the left, photoshop on the right, makes things a lot more streamlined.

At 7/31/09 07:10 PM, Toast wrote: As for Radium, I don't really know. I guess I'll just "follow my heart" and finish it if i truly want to, not just because of sponsorship or whatever. It's nice to see that there's someone who cares about it though :p oh yea and my post got cut off in the middle. i just don't feel like game development is for me, whather it's in flash or not. i dont want to make it sound like an emo / attention whore post, it's just something that's been on my mind lately. Of course it doesn't mean I'm leaving the bbs. :)

Yeah the development part of flash games is generally lost, it tends to go from idea to game without any interval or rethinking. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, but if you go down that route you will not get anything bigger than a quick minigame.

Good to hear your sticking around though :).

Weird PM

I just had a very strange PM, i get a lot of "HELP" pms cause of the tutorial collab, but this one was a little broad.

At 7/31/09 7:42 PM, MisterSins wrote: hey can you help me?

My reply :No you'll need a psychiatrist for that.

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It's pretty odd Toast, I've been thinking the same things lately. I love programming, but I don't know if game development is really the thing for me. For some reason, I love writing scripts/programs that run in the background and no one really knows about. Basically, programs that do calculations with little user input. I mean, I was writing a few programs that did things like that for literally 17 hours straight the other day. Game development on the other hand I can't do for more than an hour before getting bored. I know C++ somewhat well and I might learn more to make games, because hopefully it will inspire me again. The only other language I know really well other than AS and my intermediate knowledge of C++ (and besides web languages) is Perl (which can be used for the web, but I don't). I feel like I need to branch out a little. I'll finish up my current Flash projects and see what happens from there.

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See, im the total opposite. The more I do it, the more I love making games, and I think Flash is the perfect medium to make great games quickly and get them played by a huge audience.

I disagree that you cant make great games with Flash. As Paranoia said, the large majority of flash games are simple because that is the formula that does well, and a lot of developers are young and these kinds of games are easier to make.

That doesnt mean you cant make awesome games, and there are plenty of games out there that have been truly amazing. We just need to push the platform, hopefully the introduction of MT's will allow us to spend longer making these awesome games.

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i'm gonna stick with animations for the most part thank you very much.

guess whos alt i am.

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At 8/1/09 10:04 AM, Jimp wrote: That doesnt mean you cant make awesome games, and there are plenty of games out there that have been truly amazing.

Yeaaa, i just peaked over tom's shoulder at pixel puncher. Theres this one part where its insaneee.
I kinda agree with Jimp in that I think its dangerous to make broad assumptions and write off the whole scene just because youve never ran into something inspiring.

I'm sad to see your post toast. But yea everyones different and maybe programming flash isnt your thing after all is said and done. I think at the end of the day i realized that i didnt want to be an animator or even make flash games for a living. But i do really enjoy making em. You dont have marry yourself to the medium. Maybe theres other things that may suit you better but its always nice to leave the door open rather than just come to an extremist conclusion and totally abandon it.

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At 8/1/09 01:13 PM, Luis wrote: Yeaaa, i just peaked over tom's shoulder at pixel puncher.

Never heard of it but google'd and saw it's PsychoGoldfish, Mindchamber and TomFulp. What could go wrong?

As someone who didn't use Flash for 1-2 years at all, I must say that Flash is fantastic for quick projects.. which really does not need to be said, it's obvious, but in Flash you can quickly throw together a platform engine in 20 minutes.. that can't really be done with any other language/platform.. I mean, I know there are quite a few languages specifically for making games but none are very good.


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Quick tip: if you want something done, do not install a playstation emulator. I was playing it till 3 am yesterday until I realised that I hadn't eaten.

Flash being crap

In my eyes, people don't take flash games very seriously (I certainly don't). When I find a game, if it has any form of music that isn't instantly mute-able (including intro sounds), a boring menu, a forced tutorial or a long intro I just close it, because it isn't worth it as I know it's almost definitely going to be something that's been done before. So unless it looks really new, really nice or just plain awesome I just bypass it. But for some reason anything that I have to install I give a lot more of a chance, because I have higher expectations of it, and probably I'd like it more even if it was the same game. If I had a .exe version of Thing-Thing or Interactive Buddy I'd probably play it a lot more frequently. I don't know why but I just have a lower opinions of flash games because they're flash games, because the shear amount of shit ones.

Sorry about that rant, it didn't really have a point.
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At 8/1/09 11:36 AM, fluffcomics wrote:
guess whos alt i am.

Spamburger?


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At 8/1/09 04:28 PM, MichaelHurst wrote:
At 8/1/09 11:36 AM, fluffcomics wrote:
guess whos alt i am.
Spamburger?

FlashComic???

Naah we all know <3<3<3

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At 8/1/09 04:42 PM, FlashtooREV wrote:
At 8/1/09 04:28 PM, MichaelHurst wrote: Spamburger?
FlashComic???

D-d-daddy?

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At 8/1/09 04:51 PM, Paranoia wrote:
At 8/1/09 04:42 PM, FlashtooREV wrote:
At 8/1/09 04:28 PM, MichaelHurst wrote: Spamburger?
FlashComic???
D-d-daddy?

im gonna go with depredation?

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At 8/1/09 05:01 PM, fluffkomix wrote:
At 8/1/09 04:51 PM, Paranoia wrote:
At 8/1/09 04:42 PM, FlashtooREV wrote:
At 8/1/09 04:28 PM, MichaelHurst wrote: Spamburger?
FlashComic???
D-d-daddy?
im gonna go with depredation?

Mwhahaha! It was me!!!

Guys i'm starting to panic like zyphonee was, my Po3 programmer AND musician seemed to have bailed on me, i'm still motoring graphics and i dont even know if either of them are involved anymore.

Even if this game doesn't get finished by september, i'm going to make sure it does get done, which means i'll just have to find coder after coder, musician after musician until the game is done.

. . . oh dear god this is upsetting :(

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At 8/1/09 05:35 PM, Duchednier wrote:
At 8/1/09 05:01 PM, fluffkomix wrote:
im gonna go with depredation?
Mwhahaha! It was me!!!

LIES!!!


. . . oh dear god this is upsetting :(

maybe you're just not likeable.

get on skype.

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At 8/1/09 05:47 PM, Zyphonee wrote: I feel like the only human on earth who doesn't have Skype.

Me and you, babyyy..

I don't either, and I won't :3 I don't like talking to people.

*shivers*.


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At 8/1/09 05:47 PM, liaaaam wrote:
At 8/1/09 05:47 PM, Zyphonee wrote: I feel like the only human on earth who doesn't have Skype.
Me and you, babyyy..

I don't either, and I won't :3 I don't like talking to people.

*shivers*.

we used to talk on msn! those were the good ol' days :D

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At 8/1/09 05:35 PM, Duchednier wrote:
im gonna go with depredation?

Don't be stupid dep doesn't have an alt account.

Especially not one with an awesome an alias as this.

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At 8/1/09 06:31 PM, Occlusion wrote:
Especially not one with an awesome an alias as this.

Cough cough this totally isn't Dep's steam account name :)


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