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Daily third, I can live with that :)

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At 6/7/09 08:24 AM, Xeptic wrote: Daily third, I can live with that :)

That's not bad, but I long back for when the scores weren't so inflated. Anything less than a daily first with 4.19 would be quite unlikely about two years ago.

Btw, P-bot does have a habit of breaking every now and then, this one was quite odd though. It seems as if the last two day's submissions are listed there, although luckily the awards are correct.


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At 6/7/09 02:15 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: silly people, that demo was from 2004

And I'm sure you posted it here a few years back :P

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Stages 1 through 3 complete.

My C++ program now takes a swf, decompresses it, processes the tags to find the tags containing the bytecode, processes those tags to grab all the info, then outputs the bytecode resolving names and structured according to relations between traits of method bodies etc etc, and then compiles a new swf on all that data.

Stage 4: allow the program to modify bytecode
Stage 6: combine it with flash API to allow for inline bytecode in AS3
Stage 7: allow for operations in AS3 for my program to inline entire methods of AS3 code
Stage 8: perform bytecode level optimisations on swf
Stage 9: KILL ALL HUMANS

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At 6/7/09 08:41 AM, knugen wrote: Btw, P-bot does have a habit of breaking every now and then, this one was quite odd though. It seems as if the last two day's submissions are listed there, although luckily the awards are correct.

I noticed the exact same thing. It's a shame because I think I should be on the 3rd spot there...

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At 6/7/09 08:24 AM, Xeptic wrote: Daily third, I can live with that :)

Not that I'm much of a contributer to the portal, but I do take a gander every day and it's quite apparent that standards are slipping. I've seen flash pass today and yesterday with 3.00+ that wouldn't have scored greater than 0.90 back in 2006 and would have been blammed instantly, it seems there's no actual boundary for quality work anymore, if it's good it scores 4.20+ if it's bad it scores 3+, there's hardly any flash that only just pass, it seems that people are just voting 5 for the protection points.

Congratulations on the award though, should have got better though, it was an excellent game :(


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At 6/7/09 08:53 AM, dELtaluca wrote: My C++ program now takes a swf, decompresses it, processes the tags to find the tags containing the bytecode, processes those tags to grab all the info, then outputs the bytecode resolving names and structured according to relations between traits of method bodies etc etc, and then compiles a new swf on all that data.

So you are making your own flash basically? I wouldn't even know where to start. Good experiment though, is it faster than flash atm?

At 6/7/09 09:17 AM, citricsquid wrote: Not that I'm much of a contributer to the portal, but I do take a gander every day and it's quite apparent that standards are slipping. I've seen flash pass today and yesterday with 3.00+ that wouldn't have scored greater than 0.90 back in 2006 and would have been blammed instantly, it seems there's no actual boundary for quality work anymore, if it's good it scores 4.20+ if it's bad it scores 3+, there's hardly any flash that only just pass, it seems that people are just voting 5 for the protection points.

Long time no see :). I agree with you about it being easier to get through now than it has been, most good games now get a score of 4.20+ rather than just the great ones.

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At 6/7/09 09:32 AM, Depredation wrote: So you are making your own flash basically? I wouldn't even know where to start. Good experiment though, is it faster than flash atm?

no no, my thing would be used to re-compile any swf's from flash/flex to allow you to have inline bytecode and methods, you still need something to make the flash in the first place, although with the parts of the swf i'm processing i could make a swf from nothing as long as it didn't need any graphics or sound beyond API, but it'd be silly to write the entire code in bytecode

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Slipping Standards

My very first flash which I attempted to submit to the portal back in '06 got blammed, it wasn't good enough to get through, and I know it shouldn't have got through.
But I wanted to test this theory of NGs slipping standards, so I resubmitted it.
It got a 2.3! That's not even meant to be a bad score - crazy :s

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Everything looks nicer in the new wide layout, so now there more likely to get through

My theory anyway.

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At 6/7/09 09:44 AM, Resolution wrote: Slipping Standards

My very first flash which I attempted to submit to the portal back in '06 got blammed, it wasn't good enough to get through, and I know it shouldn't have got through.
But I wanted to test this theory of NGs slipping standards, so I resubmitted it.
It got a 2.3! That's not even meant to be a bad score - crazy :s

It is quite a bad score :P Anyway, how do you know you didn't just submit it at a bad time before? We need a bigger sample size to come to any accurate conclusions.

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At 6/7/09 09:50 AM, Paranoia wrote:
At 6/7/09 09:44 AM, Resolution wrote: Slipping Standards

My very first flash which I attempted to submit to the portal back in '06 got blammed, it wasn't good enough to get through, and I know it shouldn't have got through.
But I wanted to test this theory of NGs slipping standards, so I resubmitted it.
It got a 2.3! That's not even meant to be a bad score - crazy :s
It is quite a bad score :P Anyway, how do you know you didn't just submit it at a bad time before? We need a bigger sample size to come to any accurate conclusions.

True, and true again lol.
But it is pretty difficult to do since you need to test this using old submissions compared to new submissions, although I do feel it is important that the Mods and Admins address this problem - but have no idea how they would do that :3

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maybe they should have a new voting system:

Everyone gets a 1 vote, 2 vote, 3 vote, 4, vote and 5 vote each day and you can only use it once per day.

You only get experience if you use all your votes.

Probably has a lot of flaws but just an idea :3


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There's no way to fix it, the system is fine, it's just that people and their voting habits have changed and they're more forgiving with their votes.


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At 6/7/09 10:14 AM, adman1993 wrote: maybe they should have a new voting system:

Everyone gets a 1 vote, 2 vote, 3 vote, 4, vote and 5 vote each day and you can only use it once per day.

You only get experience if you use all your votes.

Probably has a lot of flaws but just an idea :3

No that wouldn't work.
I think the time has just come to get rid of blam/protect points and it's time they just double the daily experience you get if you vote on at least 5 submissions under judgement.

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All of these ideas are silly :/ The fact is, NG's voting system works fantastically as it is. Sure some stuff gets a higher or lower score than it deserves, but that's Democracy for you. As it is, good stuff generally gets good scores; bad stuff generally gets low scores; thanks to blam and protect points everyones stuff is guaranteed at least a few hundered views.

Everything works as well as you can reasonably expect for a site frequented largely by early to mid teens.

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I was looking at my first flash's score from 2005, I couldn't believe that NG allowed something to be blammed with a .05. I haven't seen that time of score in the obituaries in a long time.
People may be going for blam/save points, so they may just 5 everything for the save points.

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Fame helps in passing lesser quality submissions too. I managed to pass a blank screen, and get underdog of the week with it.


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At 6/7/09 11:50 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: Fame helps in passing lesser quality submissions too. I managed to pass a blank screen, and get underdog of the week with it.

True, but that's become less pronounced since they stopped displaying battling averages so prominently. Back then, anyone could just glance at one number to see if you were a probable blam or save. And your profile was in a smaller window, so they could check it with a quick popup :P

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At 6/7/09 12:09 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mm0W8wlf oo

Haha, poor mouse :(


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At 6/7/09 12:09 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mm0W8wlf oo

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guys go you think this is good for an intro? stuff actually happens before the music ends but im not gonna include that.

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I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to direct people to click on ads for any reason other than the merits of the ad itself :P

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At 6/7/09 09:42 AM, dELtaluca wrote: no no, my thing would be used to re-compile any swf's from flash/flex to allow you to have inline bytecode and methods, you still need something to make the flash in the first place, although with the parts of the swf i'm processing i could make a swf from nothing as long as it didn't need any graphics or sound beyond API, but it'd be silly to write the entire code in bytecode

So you could effectively (without any external stuff) convert it to another language? If not it's still a mighty achievement.

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baaaaaaaaaaawwww, that's so cute!

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Qeustion:
I have flash CS3 but when i have a thing converted to a movie clip i cant put actions in it...
In flash 8 i could do this..
Whats the prob?
Plz help
i just got CS3

You are reading me?!

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The document you are in is probably set to AS3, change it back to AS2. AS3 only allows code in the frame.

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At 6/7/09 02:26 PM, Alirocks0 wrote: Qeustion:
I have flash CS3 but when i have a thing converted to a movie clip i cant put actions in it...
In flash 8 i could do this..
Whats the prob?
Plz help
i just got CS3

A: post this in the flash forum next time. this thread is for discussion of random miscellaneous things.

B: try converting to AS2. though if you're a programmer i recommend learning how to do AS3.

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