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At 10/5/08 12:31 PM, adman1993 wrote:

At 10/5/08 11:58 AM, Duchednier wrote: Why thank you kindly ^_^
And for whoever is curious, its actually pencil crayons, but not just normal ones... very expensive ones... they costeded like 75$ for a pack of 50 or so XD

Holy shit, thats awesome :3 I wish i could use materials like that.. You hould try doing your own composition sometime :)

I have, lots :P I just never really post them on NG, this is my flash site, i put my artz on Deviantart
www.duchednier.deviantart.com have fun :P

At 10/5/08 12:43 PM, SpamBurger wrote: Really fucking big.

I think that it's so big that a printer can't even print it out.

At 10/5/08 12:43 PM, SpamBurger wrote:

At 10/5/08 12:41 PM, Toast wrote: no i mean

googol!

not googol

factorial of a googol

Really fucking big.

how about u build a program to trace it

google/2(googol+1)

100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999998*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999997*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999996*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999995*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999994*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999993*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999992*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999991*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999990*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999989*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999988*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999987*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999986*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999985*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999984*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999983*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999982*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999981*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999980...

Ima slowly working it out ;)

At 10/5/08 01:03 PM, RyanPridgeon wrote: google/2(googol+1)

Just ignore that, for some reason my brain told me that factorial is the sum. Just ignore me >_> <_< >_>

At 10/5/08 01:15 PM, RyanPridgeon wrote:

At 10/5/08 01:03 PM, RyanPridgeon wrote: google/2(googol+1)

Just ignore that, for some reason my brain told me that factorial is the sum. Just ignore me >_> <_< >_>

You're all crazy >_<

At 10/5/08 11:28 AM, UnknownFury wrote: Would any of you AS guys be interested in a collab where we join together to make a game, sort of NG rumble (sort of) style, where each person codes the AI for a different enemy and then stick it all together?

I'm somewhat interested, but,
i'm kinda busy right now.
I wouldn't be able to help until november.
I'm not an AS god or anything, and
if it's in AS3 just don't even reply to this, lol.

But yeah if there's a guaranteed revenue split then i'd help.
Also, who would be doing the artwork?

I really need to learn AS3.

At 10/5/08 12:41 PM, Toast wrote: no i mean
googol!
not googol
factorial of a googol

According to my calculator,
it's a 1 with
9.3326215443944152681699238856267 x 10^157
zeros after it.

At 10/5/08 01:46 PM, K-Guare wrote: According to my calculator,
it's a 1 with
9.3326215443944152681699238856267 x 10^157
zeros after it.

Whoa. What calculator do you have? Most can only do 9.999999999 * 10^99. However, 10^157 is too small to be correct, isn't it?

yep way way too small

At 10/5/08 01:56 PM, UnknownFury wrote: Whoa. What calculator do you have? Most can only do 9.999999999 * 10^99. However, 10^157 is too small to be correct, isn't it?

Well i figured that if
a regular googol is
1 x 10^100
You could apply the factorial to the 100, and
that would be the number of zeroes the number would have.
But now i look like a total dumbass because i didn't really
think it through that much. Oh well.

:/
I'll solve this mystery one day.! :D

At 10/5/08 01:46 PM, K-Guare wrote:

At 10/5/08 12:41 PM, Toast wrote: no i mean
googol!
not googol
factorial of a googol

According to my calculator,
it's a 1 with
9.3326215443944152681699238856267 x 10^157
zeros after it.

no it's going to be a lot larger than that. I found this approximation online for it.

ln(z!) ~= (1/2)*ln(2*pi) + (z + 1/2)*ln(z) - z

= .5ln(2pi) + (10^100 + .5)*ln(10^100)- 10^100

= 2.2925 x 10^102

so

ln(10^100!) = (2.2925 x 10^102)

10^100! = e^(2.2925 x 10^102)

= 10^(9.9566 x 10^101)

which is the number 10 with almost 100 times as many zeros as a googolplex (which is a ton more than 100 times a googolplex, it's 2 orders of magnitude larger for just the numbers of zeros, which means it's a googolplex SQUARED times as large)

At 10/5/08 02:03 PM, K-Guare wrote: poetry

It appears to me,
Everything you type looks like poetry.
I wish everybody typed like you,
Using a lot more whitespace,
it would make the lounge a more enjoyable place.
Please do continue.

At 10/5/08 02:07 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: which is the number 10 with almost 100 times as many zeros as a googolplex (which is a ton more than 100 times a googolplex, it's 2 orders of magnitude larger for just the numbers of zeros, which means it's a googolplex SQUARED times as large)

I found this also for estimating factorials...

n! > sqrt (2*pi*n) * (n/e)^n
n! < sqrt (2*pi*n) * (n/e)^(n+1/12n)

450 is 4.5x10^2, yet the factorial of 450 is 1.73336873... × 10^1,000. you can't just take the number of powers and calculate its factorial in order to determine the number of zero's. a googol! probably wouldn't fit in a NG post. i mean, a googol! is the product of 10^100 multiplication, one of them being * 9.999....^99. so already taking one multiplication out of the 10^100 multiplications, we have over 200 zero's. now imagine doing that with a googol other numbers. it's beyond human conception

Now we're done with googol! lets see how many places we can calculate pi to :P

function power(n, x):Number{
g=n;
for(i=0; i < x; i ++){
g = n*g;
}
return g;
}

function factorial(n):Number{
r = 1;
for(i=0; i < n ; i ++){
r *= i;
}
return r;
}
trace(factorial(power(10,100)));

unfortunately flash regards everything > 170! as Infinity.

At 10/5/08 02:12 PM, UnknownFury wrote:

At 10/5/08 02:07 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: which is the number 10 with almost 100 times as many zeros as a googolplex (which is a ton more than 100 times a googolplex, it's 2 orders of magnitude larger for just the numbers of zeros, which means it's a googolplex SQUARED times as large)

I found this also for estimating factorials...

n! > sqrt (2*pi*n) * (n/e)^n
n! < sqrt (2*pi*n) * (n/e)^(n+1/12n)

for really large numbers logarithms work better than square roots.

At 10/5/08 02:12 PM, Toast wrote: a googol! probably wouldn't fit in a NG post.

i just did

10^(9.9566 x 10^101)

All this maths crap makes it feel like a weekday >:C

At 10/5/08 02:25 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: i just did

10^(9.9566 x 10^101)

i meant if you write all the zero's. im probably gonna say something really stupid, but isn't that roughly the equivalent of 10^(100^101)?

At 10/5/08 02:31 PM, Toast wrote: i meant if you write all the zero's. im probably gonna say something really stupid, but isn't that roughly the equivalent of 10^(100^101)?

Don't think so. When you do it you're meant to deal with the powers before the multiplication.
e.g. 2 * 10^10 is different 20^10.

fair enough. makes sense. i knew there was something wrong about it.

if you give me small numbers i can usually try to think it out more logically, like go in full depths of the example you just gave 2*10^10 and 20^10, but when it's something as huge as a googol my brain gets all fuzzy :p

My first submission to Newgrounds.

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  Meat Boy by Bluebaby

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Thanks to everyone that helped with the testing last night. Hopefully it wont be as difficult now that the hitboxes and buzz saws have been fixed up.

At 10/5/08 02:07 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: no it's going to be a lot larger than that. I found this approximation online for it.
ln(z!) ~= (1/2)*ln(2*pi) + (z + 1/2)*ln(z) - z
= .5ln(2pi) + (10^100 + .5)*ln(10^100)- 10^100
= 2.2925 x 10^102
so
ln(10^100!) = (2.2925 x 10^102)
10^100! = e^(2.2925 x 10^102)
= 10^(9.9566 x 10^101)

Wow, where do you find these approximations?
Lol. This thread makes me feel stupid.

At 10/5/08 02:09 PM, Xeptic wrote: It appears to me,
Everything you type looks like poetry.
I wish everybody typed like you,
Using a lot more whitespace,
it would make the lounge a more enjoyable place.
Please do continue.

Rhyme Schemes are alright,
But i do prefer Haikus.
They sound quite better.

Actually, rhyming is more fun, but i had to say that
To make my Haiku work. :D

At 10/5/08 02:16 PM, UnknownFury wrote: Now we're done with googol! lets see how many places we can calculate pi to :P

And after that, we can
see who can find the largest Friedman Number. :3

At 10/5/08 02:23 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote: That shit had no rhytm of flow.
You suck at poetry-oh.

I'm sorry I don't excel,
drinking and rhyme don't mix very well,
Besides, as you can probably tell,
I don't speak english very well.

At 10/5/08 02:16 PM, UnknownFury wrote: Now we're done with googol! lets see how many places we can calculate pi to :P

Our maths teacher has it pinned up on the wall, snaking all around the classroom, to about 122 places.

At 10/5/08 02:47 PM, Musician wrote: My first submission to Newgrounds.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/46 3241
Thanks to everyone that helped with the testing last night. Hopefully it wont be as difficult now that the hitboxes and buzz saws have been fixed up.

Awesome game :3 Pretty hard aswell :D Fiven..

let's start with really basic stuff. then we can move unto more complicated things.

here's something our maths teacher gave us and he said only those who finished all the exercises can do it. anyone who is 14 years old or more should be able to solve it.

At 10/5/08 02:56 PM, adman1993 wrote: Awesome game :3 Pretty hard aswell :D Fiven..

I agree, i wish you and the author you worked with the
highest amount of ad revenue. :]

At 10/5/08 03:11 PM, BrotherToast wrote: let's start with really basic stuff. then we can move unto more complicated things.

Cool, i needed a bit of an algebra refresher.
I got it ~= 2.

Sorry for double post. :/