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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 09:25:23 Reply

At 8/13/08 09:21 AM, Toast wrote: the flash forum mods are depressing

Post 7777 you noob. What now?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 09:26:53 Reply

Price Tags

So, I met someone in the hospital the other day (i've been in the hospital for the past couple weeks) while I was staying with a relative and we talked about some potential work. Long story short she wants me to work on a "doll maker" program that'll create greeting cards.

It's like a dress up but the configuration for the different dolls needs to be saved. Those dolls will then be put onto a greeting card which will then be e-mailed to her so that she can print them out and ship them to the customer.

What I was thinking was I could use XML to store all the data, then parse it out with php into a jpg, but I'm not sure that's possible anymore. I know php can generate images but I'm not sure how it works.

Also, I need to pull the art assets off of a server, they won't be stored in the flash file. Although I was thinking of just making the flash file and modifying it whenever new pieces were made (I'm looking for minimal maintenance).

With everything said and done, now I'm beginning to wonder whether $1,000 is a reasonable price, or am I cutting myself short?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 09:46:20 Reply

At 8/13/08 09:26 AM, Deathcon7 wrote: Price Tags

So, I met someone in the hospital the other day (i've been in the hospital for the past couple weeks) while I was staying with a relative and we talked about some potential work. Long story short she wants me to work on a "doll maker" program that'll create greeting cards.

It's like a dress up but the configuration for the different dolls needs to be saved. Those dolls will then be put onto a greeting card which will then be e-mailed to her so that she can print them out and ship them to the customer.

What I was thinking was I could use XML to store all the data, then parse it out with php into a jpg, but I'm not sure that's possible anymore. I know php can generate images but I'm not sure how it works.

Also, I need to pull the art assets off of a server, they won't be stored in the flash file. Although I was thinking of just making the flash file and modifying it whenever new pieces were made (I'm looking for minimal maintenance).

With everything said and done, now I'm beginning to wonder whether $1,000 is a reasonable price, or am I cutting myself short?

Way too little IMO for an application so complicated. Anything that involves integration of more than one application, ie: flash + php + xml/database = around $3K

Also, here is a link to a way to encode .jpg files using bitmap data in flash 9 (AS3):
http://henryjones.us/articles/using-the-
as3-jpeg-encoder

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 09:59:39 Reply

At 8/13/08 09:46 AM, BoMToons wrote: Way too little IMO for an application so complicated. Anything that involves integration of more than one application, ie: flash + php + xml/database = around $3K

Also, here is a link to a way to encode .jpg files using bitmap data in flash 9 (AS3):
http://henryjones.us/articles/using-the-
as3-jpeg-encoder

I don't know - you'd have to think of how much you'd ask for it if you were already familiar with the stuff involved (it doesn't make sense for a client to pay extra for incompetence (bad choice of word, but you get the idea)).

It's probably wouldn't take more than ten to twelve hours of full focus to get all the stuff sorted out - you're not drawing anything - so around $100 an hour seems pretty reasonable. Plus, you're taking away knowledge of different kinds of scripting that you can then apply to a future project.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 11:04:25 Reply

At 8/13/08 09:59 AM, Paranoia wrote: It's probably wouldn't take more than ten to twelve hours of full focus to get all the stuff sorted out - you're not drawing anything - so around $100 an hour seems pretty reasonable. Plus, you're taking away knowledge of different kinds of scripting that you can then apply to a future project.

I dont really have an opinion on the actual quote cause im not too saavy with the scope of the work he is quoting but i think that even at 12 hours of full focus.. you want to give yourself a buffer for bug scrub / hang-ups and unscheduled turbulence. I think the most common mistake you make as a freelancer (and ive been burned many times) is to quote it to pinpoint accuracy.

You will lose in the long run. If I guesstimate a job to be 12 hrs of labor i like to block out an extra 4-6 for intangibles. So my quote to the client would be 18hrs of labor. That buffer comes in very useful. Even if you end up not needing all of the hours you've set aside, you can atleast ensure that the client is going to get a fully fleshed, precise end product in the end.

Always always always always give yourself a buffer.

if ive yet to make that clear.....
always :)


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 11:24:27 Reply

At 8/13/08 09:26 AM, Deathcon7 wrote: What I was thinking was I could use XML to store all the data, then parse it out with php into a jpg, but I'm not sure that's possible anymore. I know php can generate images but I'm not sure how it works.

If you're using Flash to render it on one side, why would you differently on the other? She can print out a Flash rendering.

Also, I need to pull the art assets off of a server, they won't be stored in the flash file. Although I was thinking of just making the flash file and modifying it whenever new pieces were made (I'm looking for minimal maintenance).

That's all the work you have to do. PHP programmers deal with that shit every day (and I have to listen to it on our IRC channel).

With everything said and done, now I'm beginning to wonder whether $1,000 is a reasonable price, or am I cutting myself short?

Two or three thousand if you're not doing the art/design.

Also join our channel!


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 12:35:59 Reply

At 8/12/08 08:24 PM, Blackfang wrote: Cutscene for Fat Game

Here is a link for a cutscene just made for my new game with Cryzabey. It explains these enemies, Candy Monsters

It looks ok, I just think that if your making a game about candy monsters, you don't have to explain yourself


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 12:41:29 Reply

At 8/13/08 11:04 AM, Luis wrote: ourself a buffer.

if ive yet to make that clear.....
always :)

haa Wisdom....
freelancing
just out of interest did any of you had any interesting freelancing job except Luis which his first one was to design dicks lol


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 13:18:33 Reply

I know im a bit late with this, but i just watched Wall-E and i love it :3 sooo cute :')


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 14:06:17 Reply

Wow.
I mean just look at this:

At 8/13/08 2:01 PM, Framen wrote: Hello would you like to buy your own customized world of warcraft character, prices begin from 35 to
500 dollars and they're cheaper than other characters . plz we need clients
Asking random people...

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 14:35:17 Reply

At 8/13/08 02:06 PM, zrb wrote: Wow.
I mean just look at this:

I got one of those as well.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 14:46:13 Reply

At 8/13/08 01:18 PM, adman1993 wrote: I know im a bit late with this, but i just watched Wall-E and i love it :3 sooo cute :')

I didn't even know it was still in theatres. :\


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 14:50:54 Reply

At 8/13/08 02:35 PM, Xeptic wrote: I got one of those as well.

Its pretty sad that they sign up to NG to sell WoW characters.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 14:51:30 Reply

At 8/13/08 02:46 PM, Masterswordman wrote:
At 8/13/08 01:18 PM, adman1993 wrote: I know im a bit late with this, but i just watched Wall-E and i love it :3 sooo cute :')
I didn't even know it was still in theatres. :\

It is in England! :3


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 15:55:53 Reply

I mean just look at this:

At 8/13/08 02:06 PM, zrb wrote: Wow.
I mean just look at this:

I got these too but from different people. First he made it look like HE wants to buy wow characters, so I offered him mine for 300 euro but im sure they're just scammers. oh and here's the weirdest thing: i went back to my inbox to check the guy's username, but all the messages from/to him disappeared.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:08:08 Reply

300 euro for a wow character, must have been good

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:13:26 Reply

At 8/13/08 03:55 PM, Toast wrote: I mean just look at this:

Underlined, bold and italic ?
Ew.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:15:56 Reply

At 8/13/08 04:08 PM, funkycaveman wrote: 300 euro for a wow character, must have been good

Well I don't actually know the prices very good but I assume it's pretty close to it. I only have one lvl 70 character on the account, others are ~40, but I used to see 1 lvl 70 accounts being sold for over 500 dollars. this UD mage was sold for 850 dollars, he had full s2 and full t6 (which was extremely nice because it was in the middle of s2). I have atm 5/5 s3 for retri, 5/5 s3 + s4 for holy, full BT / MH gear for holy pve (which used to be fucking nice.. but not anymore), and full ZA / kara prot gear. kara gear is sad, I know... the only prot gear I have except random ZA's is when the best guilds were only beginning to clear kara and gruul. I was probably one of the first people on server with 5/5 t4

ffs, why am I even boasting about my WoW character? does anyone here even play wow except eddy?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:25:43 Reply

why do you want a new one when your s seems good already?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:33:11 Reply

I don't want to buy a new one, I want to sell mine. As I said a few pages back, I already uninstalled the game. It's done enough harm to me already, it's a terrible game.

but if you buy my account I'm sure it won't do any harm to you, you will enjoy it very much. so please buy my account

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:43:43 Reply

oh ok then you want to sell it for 300 euros?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:51:34 Reply

I've been looking at the interface for after effects. OH. MY. GAWD. All I wanna do is edit .swf!


Click my sig for a hilarious thread.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 16:53:51 Reply

At 8/13/08 04:51 PM, Wolfears2 wrote: I've been looking at the interface for after effects. OH. MY. GAWD. All I wanna do is edit .swf!

??? what swf, the one for after effects

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 17:14:04 Reply

FINALLY!
I have a batting average ;D

I submitted this to the portal about 5 minutes ago. I'd give you the NG link to it, but I'd rather not receive your blam-worthy scores on it.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 17:41:56 Reply

Crunch

love it! really fun and cool art too!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 17:43:46 Reply

I was puttering around at work for this hearing test site we are doing, when my boss asked me to make up a little particle effect with stars for when a user clicks on a button in the site (obviously going to be a flash site)

Anyway, lemme know what you think!

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/130808/5 9793_freeHearingTest_v2.php

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 17:47:15 Reply

At 8/13/08 05:43 PM, Swirling-Venom wrote: http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/130808/5 9793_freeHearingTest_v2.php

Hmm it could get very annoying..


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 17:48:29 Reply

At 8/13/08 05:43 PM, Swirling-Venom wrote: I was puttering around at work for this hearing test site we are doing, when my boss asked me to make up a little particle effect with stars for when a user clicks on a button in the site (obviously going to be a flash site)

Anyway, lemme know what you think!

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/130808/5 9793_freeHearingTest_v2.php

Nothing even showed up when I clicked the link, and that's why you shouldn't have websites designed entirely in flash. If you want sparkly stuff, I would recommend having a banner / header / wherever u put the buttons in flash, and rest in html. sorry for not being able to provide feedback about your actual work.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 17:50:43 Reply

At 8/13/08 05:48 PM, Toast wrote:

Click somewhere on the flash.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-08-13 18:02:24 Reply

At 8/13/08 05:48 PM, Toast wrote: Nothing even showed up when I clicked the link, and that's why you shouldn't have websites designed entirely in flash. If you want sparkly stuff, I would recommend having a banner / header / wherever u put the buttons in flash, and rest in html. sorry for not being able to provide feedback about your actual work.

Dude he was only talking about the explosion thingy when you click on the site.. if you just click the swf it make a lil explosion :/


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