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At 7/29/08 06:30 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:
At 7/29/08 05:04 AM, Paranoia wrote: it's worse when your hair's longer :(
My hair is currently down to past my shoulder blades, about a third of the way down my back. It becomes inconvenient unless it's covered by a bandanna.

I've had to wear a hat and have a fan on full spewing lvely cool aor in my face for the past week, its so hot and long hai ftl.

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In my opinion, depending on how it is used, music doesn't always improve a flash..and I feel many people force music into their flashes even if its not needed.

From what I can see, the reason for this is there are always people who leave stupid reviews saying " well I would have given this a 10 but since no music now it gets a 3"

Basically, I have a game but I just can't find any music that fits it so I'm thinking of leaving it soundless aside from some sound effects for the buttons in the menu and instrucions.

Is this a good idea or will I get voted down enough that I would be better off waiting until I find some music that fits into the game better?

Music In Games
My first few submissions don't have music. In fact, because I sometimes watched stuff at a uni library and had no headphones, I reviewed a few submissions without even hearing them. :-/

I now realise that whilst you can get by from a functional viewpoint without sound, it's just ignoring another channel of engaging viewers/players. The old point - to watch a film without sound and see how much of its impact is lost - may not seem relevant to games, but the basic point - that music can engage us emotionally or set a mood - is still true.

Well chosen music can benefit any game - a fast-paced tempo can reinforce a rapidly dwindling time limit or a slow legato piece can signal to us that it's OK to slow down and think things through. Unless it's entirely abstract, every game has a balance of poignance, joy, rage and myriad other emotions in its themes and execution. Even entirely abstract work has a tempo (and often emotions evoked from the execution). Mirroring that in the music just strengthens the entire experience.

The sound also functions as a source of feedback - telling us when a notable event has occured, whether it be a successfully landed punch, correct guess or whatever - and this should be employed even if you're not striving for any particular mood.

Having sfx for menu buttons seems almost superfluous. Not that there's anything wrong with a subtle little 'celebration' after clicking, but I'd definitely suggest focusing on sfx for in-game feedback as a higher priority.

I think agonistic players (often seeking fiero) will care more about sound as a mode of feedback than for setting the mood - something that appeals to what Chris Bateman calls 'mimicry-based play'. On Newgrounds, I think there may be more agonistic players - maybe reducing the necessity of mood-setting music.

Regardless, even if it's "not needed", I think it almost always helps.

Making other games
I just wondered - how many people have experimented in formally designing non-electronic games, whether it's a board game, card game or whatever?

On that note, are there any big boardgame, RPG, CCG or traditional-playing-card-game players? I vaguely remember Kayn exposing himself as an RPG player.

At 7/28/08 04:42 PM, patu1 wrote: just hit me
That except Toast and paranoia and mods i was here before all of you guys.
Makes me sad =[ i miss all the old regs...

Bullshit.

Anyways, don't be an arse. Yearning for the old days is cool, but hyping yourself up just seems unnecessary and condescending.

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It saddens me to see this thread filled with mainly either spam or complaints of spam. I mean, there's a bunch of talented, intelligent people here. Why can't this be filled with meaningful discussion - talking about what makes

More and more, I feel like the time spent skimming this thread is just wasted. Was I wrong all along - is this just a place to herd off the spam and not a forum for intelligent discussion at all? :-(

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Para: You're coming to UK Meet 3, right? We'll have a long hair and silliest hat contest. :p

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More and more, I feel like the time spent skimming this thread is just wasted. Was I wrong all along - is this just a place to herd off the spam and not a forum for intelligent discussion at all? :-(

Before posting a topic, please ask yourself the following question: "Am I making a post which is either funny, informative, or interesting on some level?" If you can answer "yes" to this, then please post. If you cannot, then refrain.

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QFT.

I've had to send a few PMs to people who are starting to post for the hell of it. Spamming is the least of my concerns - it's the pwning n00bs aspect I'm starting to frown on heavily here. Gust's done it for years, but at least all his posts end up having some actual grain of advice or a solution to the problem while he's insulting people - most people seem to be ripping threads apart because they've got nothing better to do.

Seriously people. If you really have nothing better to do or nothing to contribute to the forum other than trolling criticism or spam venting, turn off Firefox, IE and Safari, and go open Flash. Do ten minutes animation work instead.

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At 7/29/08 08:57 AM, Bezman wrote: Making other games
I just wondered - how many people have experimented in formally designing non-electronic games, whether it's a board game, card game or whatever?

On that note, are there any big boardgame, RPG, CCG or traditional-playing-card-game players?
I vaguely remember Kayn exposing himself as an RPG player.

I do this from time to time. I'm a big fan of Exalted and most Steve Jackson card games. I play a lot of 40K still and know the rules to Magic. Could probably play L5R in a pinch as well.

I've tried planning my own NG Card Game, and then sat with the group of the second UK Meetup and done the same. I've tried board game design. I love it. But I don't make anything especially novel by the end of it and so consign the half concieved ideas to my mental scrapbin and move on.

The hard part is coming up with something clever without making it overly complex.

Kinda parallels really, really closely with CG design...

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I never meant to try to make myself cooler. I just meant that i miss all the regs that were here a long long time before me...Because i don't know, it actually feels kinda weird not to be the newst...Bez <3
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i think that people should start posting new intresting topics to the flash forum or ruviving old ones like animation main flash freestyle battle's when i will get home i'll get back to it =]

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At 7/29/08 09:09 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: Para: You're coming to UK Meet 3, right? We'll have a long hair and silliest hat contest. :p

Someone bring some GHD's and we can straighten each others hair. That's the only fair way to judge the actual length.


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You guys should have a haircut party.

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At 7/29/08 10:16 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Someone bring some GHD's and we can straighten each others hair. That's the only fair way to judge the actual length.

*has a haircut*

Would be easier just not to go actually...

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RE: FGL (flashgamelicense.com)

I get on there about once every two days or so. You always get such great feedback on all of your games. Also I have noticed that if you leave feedback on someone else's games they almost always will leave some feedback on your games.
Great site!

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I decided to submit an animation I made for my girlfriend for our 1 year anniversary. I wasnt sure whether I should submit it or not... but i put sooo much work into it I just thought fuck it, why shouldnt other people see it?

link!

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At 7/29/08 05:04 AM, Paranoia wrote: If only you could combine the pleasant coolness of winter with the long, happy bright days of summer...

Wouldn't that be called "fall"

Speaking of it... It, in my opinion, in the most beautiful time of year for anything, especially watching the sunset.... *awe*

At 7/29/08 11:56 AM, Treerung wrote: RE: FGL (flashgamelicense.com)

I get on there about once every two days or so. You always get such great feedback on all of your games. Also I have noticed that if you leave feedback on someone else's games they almost always will leave some feedback on your games.
Great site!

I'm going to sign up for that... interesting. *thanks you*

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At 7/29/08 05:04 AM, Paranoia wrote: I don't know what's worse - the annoying warmness in summer (it's worse when your hair's longer :( ) or the depressing early darkness in winter.

My summers been okay, of course though in June i dislocated my knee, making it so i couldn't do anything physical until the middle of July; which sucked. =/.

I also have long hair, but mine only goes down to my shoulders. It really does get hot. =/

Sometimes i can never sleep during the summer too. i love being covered when i sleep, and in summer its just too damn hot.

If only you could combine the pleasant coolness of winter with the long, happy bright days of summer...

Yeah that would be really amazing. If winter had very long days like summer, id love winter soo much.


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At 7/29/08 03:10 AM, Blackfang wrote: Lol. so should i go start a Flash Reg 'Mini" Lounge =P

Surprisingly I don't think I'm part of the problem here. Not saying that I'm helping, but I'm not making it worse :P

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At 7/29/08 12:31 PM, J1mp wrote: I decided to submit an animation I made for my girlfriend for our 1 year anniversary. I wasnt sure whether I should submit it or not... but i put sooo much work into it I just thought fuck it, why shouldnt other people see it?

link!

That was beautiful man. I'm sure your girlfriend loved it! The effort put into that definitely shows, and it's easy to tell which scenes/moments of the event you really enjoyed and cared about. Especially when you two first meet and all the colors pour out from around you. It feels like that, sometimes, doesn't it?

Nice work man, keep it up.

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At 7/29/08 12:31 PM, J1mp wrote: I decided to submit an animation I made for my girlfriend for our 1 year anniversary. I wasnt sure whether I should submit it or not... but i put sooo much work into it I just thought fuck it, why shouldnt other people see it?

link!

Wow, effort was obvious here... extremely well done.
That was beautiful...
I call front page for that.

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At 7/29/08 12:31 PM, J1mp wrote: I decided to submit an animation I made for my girlfriend for our 1 year anniversary. I wasnt sure whether I should submit it or not... but i put sooo much work into it I just thought fuck it, why shouldnt other people see it?

link!

Man that was so beautiful. I especially enjoyed the train sequences and the overall pleasant feel to it. Amazing job, that must be some lucky girl.

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At 7/29/08 12:31 PM, J1mp wrote: I decided to submit an animation I made for my girlfriend for our 1 year anniversary.

Nice job man, I loved the use of colour, nicely fitting music as well. Coincidentally, one of my colleagues told me to check out a Porcupine Tree a couple of days ago, I guess I should go and do that now :)

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i just had a really nice shit lol (really big). not intending to spam btw, just thought you guys should know because it was the most important part of my day.

so what are u all up to? where are all the summer games u guys are supposed to be working on?


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At 7/29/08 12:31 PM, J1mp wrote: I decided to submit an animation I made for my girlfriend for our 1 year anniversary. I wasnt sure whether I should submit it or not... but i put sooo much work into it I just thought fuck it, why shouldnt other people see it?

link!

That was amazing, I can tell you put an amazing amount of effort into that flash. Your girlfriend is lucky and now I'm going to make you one of them flashes for our 1 year anniversary!

At 7/29/08 01:14 PM, Toast wrote: i just had a really nice shit lol (really big). not intending to spam btw, just thought you guys should know because it was the most important part of my day.

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Hey thanks for all the awesome comments guys, really really means a lot to me, this is definitely the most personal thing ive ever done with flash, or maybe even created.

aww, love you guys :D

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Hey guys, a friend of mine is in a youtube scholarship contest and needs votes and views to get into the finals. I'd appreciate your help if you all could take a gander and drop a vote if you feel he's deserving. He's an incredible guy and very deserving of this scholarship IMO.

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RE: Summer

At 7/29/08 12:34 PM, DawnOfDusk wrote: Wouldn't that be called "fall"

Except Autumn isn't really that warm and the days get pretty short. =P

At 7/29/08 12:36 PM, Blackfang wrote: Yeah that would be really amazing. If winter had very long days like summer, id love winter soo much.

You should move to the north of Normay for the summer. They have like constant sunlight from April to August and average temperature of about -7°C.


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It's a rainy day and everythings wet, but I'm the dryest I've been for months.

I also inhaled too much lighter fluid this mornin'. :C

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At 7/29/08 01:40 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: RE: Summer

At 7/29/08 12:34 PM, DawnOfDusk wrote: Wouldn't that be called "fall"
Except Autumn isn't really that warm and the days get pretty short. =P

eh, true. it's warm down in Ohio though, so it's nice (well, not hot, but cool... w/e)

On a flash note, I just started on an arcade-style game...
Tell me what you think of the menu.

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At 7/29/08 03:00 PM, DawnOfDusk wrote: On a flash note, I just started on an arcade-style game...
Tell me what you think of the menu.

link.

Pretty snazzy menu you got going there, nice funky SFX.
What's this game going to be based around, and what kind of arcade-style game is it going to be? From the menu at least, it looks like it'll be pretty good :]

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At 7/29/08 03:05 PM, hashbrown wrote: 5.8 earthquake MOFO

Meh, so it shook a lot of shit.

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At 7/29/08 03:00 PM, DawnOfDusk wrote: On a flash note, I just started on an arcade-style game...
Tell me what you think of the menu.

link.

try having the square flash a bit. pretty good though

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At 7/29/08 03:06 PM, Resolution wrote: Pretty snazzy menu you got going there, nice funky SFX.

ty.

What's this game going to be based around, and what kind of arcade-style game is it going to be? From the menu at least, it looks like it'll be pretty good :]

Well, the game mode itself (It'll have an "arcade"/"realistic" mode) looks like.. shit. lmao

I just wanted to see if I could make a good menu, (I want this to be sponsored btw) so, is that menu a good enough menu, or should I crunch about another 3 hours into it?

At 7/29/08 03:14 PM, hashbrown wrote: try having the square flash a bit. pretty good though

do you mean the selection square? and when do you believe it should flash?

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At 7/29/08 03:00 PM, DawnOfDusk wrote: On a flash note, I just started on an arcade-style game...
Tell me what you think of the menu.

Nice menu. I like the easing in the selection square thing :D

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If you use a vcam, how do you keep the UI in place?


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