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At 10/25/06 05:42 PM, Baron-Von-Geordie wrote: back to Jesus v. Muhammad

Jesus would totally beat islam because he has superpowers, muhammad didnt cure no leppers, islam isnt backed up by a superhero, christianity rejoice

In other words, Islam's central figure doesn't have a lot of made-up hocus pocus woven into their sacred text?

Anyway, we all know Buddha would win over all - he's so big you couldn't make a punch register and get punch drunk.

At 10/25/06 05:42 PM, Baron-Von-Geordie wrote: back to Jesus v. Muhammad

Jesus would totally beat islam because he has superpowers, muhammad didnt cure no leppers, islam isnt backed up by a superhero, christianity rejoice

I give it to Muhammad; his followers saved Western Civilization from overzealous followers of Christ after the fall of Rome. You know, when Christians burned Greek, Roman and other classical texts as heretical, plunging Europe into the dark ages. Meanwhile, Islamic Persians were reading Plato and Aristotle while inventing the number zero. Damn those Islamo-fascists!

At 10/21/06 10:25 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

- PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW BETTER. people back then thought the earth was flat, the sun orbits the earth, and clouds are heaven. They didn't have half of the proliferated morals as well as scientific knowledge we have today. Most christians can safetly stand back alone and say that they would never support that kind of violence.

Also, this was more the stance of Western/European Christianity rather than representative of Christianity as a whole. In fact, the Christians who were indiginous to the region were devoid of the same scientific knowledge you write about. However, they lived in peace with the Jews and Muslims. To this day Assyrian and Coptic Christians are accepted by Muslims in the ME.

The Western Christian church that arose in Rome arose out of a culture of bloodshed and suppression of opposing viewpoints. (That's why they have a horrible history of burning books.) This is something that is not shared by all flavors of Christianity; hence why the ME has been stable when Western powers are not involved. Finally, if you look at the history of the Crusades we Westerners were pretty indiscriminate and bloodthirsty:

If you were a local Muslim the reason you were put to the sword is obvious.
If you were Jewish your people killed Christ and so you should pay.
If you were a local Christian you did not accept Roman Christianity and thus you are a heretic.

in all seriousness, christianity wins coz if u look at the teachings (not whose who hide behind christianity) they include forgivness, equality (islam aint got nothing on this, headscarves for god sake) and kindness

At 10/26/06 04:39 PM, Baron-Von-Geordie wrote: in all seriousness, christianity wins coz if u look at the teachings (not whose who hide behind christianity) they include forgivness, equality (islam aint got nothing on this, headscarves for god sake) and kindness

The headscarves and Burqas are a tribal tradition, and not based upon the Qur'an. Also, the Qur'an does teach forgiveness, equality and kindness.

I must remind the Christians that unless they believe in the absolute unity of God, and renounce the belief in the three persons, they are certainly unbelievers in the true God ... The Old Testament and the Qur'an condemn the doctrine of three persons in God; the New Testament does not expressly hold or defend it, but even if it contains hints and traces concerning the Trinity, it is no authority at all, because it was neither seen nor written by Christ himself, nor in the language he spoke, nor did it exist in its present form and contents for - at least - the first two centuries after him.

I'm catholic myself. I never thought of the Trinity as being the almighty, per se. Rather the sign of the cross (the hand thing Christians do over their chest, for those that don't know) I'd always seen as honoring three elements of salvation: the Father, because He is surpreme. The Son, because He is also surpreme and a martyr, and the Holy Ghost because of the significance of christ's spirit.

I don't really see how that diverts recognition away from a one, true power that created the universe.

how about we just put them in a big ass cage and make them fight to the death?

Then gas the survivours of course