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Sixthform is some sort of specialization year I suppose?

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Nah sixthform is just an alternative to college, you do the same thing at both just college is better.

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My site would be suspended when i go to update it wouldn't it?


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At 11/7/07 10:48 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: My site would be suspended when i go to update it wouldn't it?

AxisHost being fags as per usual?

Btw http://www.samhulse.co.uk/2007/11/07/ipo d-touch-review/

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At 11/7/07 12:37 PM, smulse wrote:
At 11/7/07 10:48 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: My site would be suspended when i go to update it wouldn't it?
AxisHost being fags as per usual?

Yep.
"Where no longer providing free hosting to ADM customers".
Great, theres me 5 months hosting and a bit of cash down.

Btw http://www.samhulse.co.uk/2007/11/07/ipo d-touch-review/

Cool. If i wasn't so poor, i might invest in one.


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Nice review Sam. :-)

Applications or actions? Do we need huge applications to support the most basic of tasks?

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im almost done a website iv been working on, but now i need a host....


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At 11/7/07 01:19 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 11/7/07 12:37 PM, smulse wrote:
At 11/7/07 10:48 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: My site would be suspended when i go to update it wouldn't it?
AxisHost being fags as per usual?
Yep.
"Where no longer providing free hosting to ADM customers".
Great, theres me 5 months hosting and a bit of cash down.

That's well out of order. But hey, if you need some hosting for a couple of months I could probably hook you up.

Btw http://www.samhulse.co.uk/2007/11/07/ipo d-touch-review/
Cool. If i wasn't so poor, i might invest in one.

They are really good, just a couple of let downs.

At 11/7/07 01:29 PM, different wrote: Nice review Sam. :-)

Thanks

Applications or actions? Do we need huge applications to support the most basic of tasks?
http://uxthoughts.blogspot.com/

When's your OS coming out then? Nice article, I agree with you.

At 11/7/07 02:18 PM, sippie62 wrote: im almost done a website iv been working on, but now i need a host....

So?

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Omg.

AxisHost told me they'd suspend my page, because they had to transfer over everything from the old servers to the new ones. They said they'd suspend it last thursday, and finally got around to do it today. They said they'd suspend it because I wasn't planning to renew it, and they couldn't just host it for free!!

WHAT CRAPPY SERVICE!!!!! I ORDERED A FREAKING YEAR PLAN WHICH EXPIRES IN FEBURARY!!!! AND NOW THEY TELL ME I CAN'T KEEP THE PLAN THAT I BOUGHT BECAUSE I DIDN'T COUGH UP MORE FREAKING MONEY!?!?!?!?

THOSE MONEY WHORES!?!!?!?

I hope their company, their ill paid workers, those insecure half turds, and any unkind, heartless demons they have working there, or for there crash to the ground with the company they've ruined.

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Guys, think for a second.

You paid for a year, and got only about 5 months? Sue those bastards, do it together to cut the costs.
But really, this is contract break.

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At 11/7/07 04:15 PM, elbekko wrote: Guys, think for a second.

You paid for a year, and got only about 5 months? Sue those bastards, do it together to cut the costs.
But really, this is contract break.

Hmm. I'd have to do some serious research on it.

But really, what would I sue for? The whole plan was $60, but going to court would cost much more. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I do think it's more expensive to sue. (I do have a relative as a lawyer, but he's only for a completely different type of case)

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At 11/7/07 04:18 PM, Momo-the-Monkey wrote:
At 11/7/07 04:15 PM, elbekko wrote: Guys, think for a second.

You paid for a year, and got only about 5 months? Sue those bastards, do it together to cut the costs.
But really, this is contract break.
Hmm. I'd have to do some serious research on it.

But really, what would I sue for? The whole plan was $60, but going to court would cost much more. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I do think it's more expensive to sue. (I do have a relative as a lawyer, but he's only for a completely different type of case)

Exactly the problem.
Suing for $30 (since you received about half of the hosting), really isn't worth it.
Probably not even if a bunch of us did it together.


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Ok, so I'm about to pop them a letter, what do you think?

"My account, http://madbananas.com, was suspended due to failure of renewal notification. I stated I no longer wished to be hosted here AFTER my account expired, which happened to be on the seventh of February, 2008. I did not wish to cease my account, only to stop the auto-renew process, so further charges where not made. As they weren't.

But the problem lies with the initial hosting. As stated above, my account expired promptly on the seventh of February, 2008. Not a day later. But my account was terminated, several months (3 months) before my account expired. I did not wish to terminate it in November, but in February, as the receipt states.

AxisHost says nothing in their policies (that I could find, do link them to me if they exist) about transfers from another service. All that was said was an email stated all accounts will be transfered over from ADMHosting to AxisHost until the account expires, with no charge.

But AxisHost was just a transfer, who bought out the company ADMHosting (or took without money). They were not forcibly handed ADMHosting, with hundreds of clients to take care of. It was a willful act. Thus, granted what the email had stated, no one will get charged another payment for the same hosting, to continue the already-paid-for service they were obligated to.

But a few months later, AxisHost decided to do a server switch, and informed all of it's customers that they must pay for another year, or be kicked off of their system. Even though the customers from ADMHosting were promised free hosting for the rest of their payment. Going against what they said, they sent me an email confirming this once more. Because I had not payed for another year, they stated that I could not be hosted on their servers, because I have failed to pay for another year. Stating that I "can't just be hosted for free." even though the promise was until my account expired, and my payment was used up.

Which, in fact, my payment is not used up. My receipt from ADMHosting states clearly that it expires on February 7, 2008. But my account has been suspended anyway. I

All I ask is that I either get refunded, or my account is unsuspended until the date listed above. "

Should I add anything?

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That looks fine.

And you'd sue them for contract break, as I said. If you got enough ADM customers together, I'm fairly sure it'd be well worth the lawsuit. Not to mention seeing the pain on the owners' face :D

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At 11/7/07 04:42 PM, elbekko wrote: That looks fine.

And you'd sue them for contract break, as I said. If you got enough ADM customers together, I'm fairly sure it'd be well worth the lawsuit. Not to mention seeing the pain on the owners' face :D

I'm still not too sure about the idea, but who would do it with me? A list of them would be nice. :o

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At 11/7/07 04:48 PM, Momo-the-Monkey wrote:
At 11/7/07 04:42 PM, elbekko wrote: That looks fine.

And you'd sue them for contract break, as I said. If you got enough ADM customers together, I'm fairly sure it'd be well worth the lawsuit. Not to mention seeing the pain on the owners' face :D
I'm still not too sure about the idea, but who would do it with me? A list of them would be nice. :o

If it required little effort on my part, i'd be up for it.
And what i mean by little effort is anything but 3 nights up solid around the coffee table planning a case, or me travelling to the USA, etc.
But i'd be willing to provide my side of the story, email conversations, etc.


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At 11/7/07 03:45 PM, smulse wrote: When's your OS coming out then? Nice article, I agree with you.

I'd love to get some prototypes up of how it would behave. There's a lot of existing technology that could make this very possible, especially on OS X - Core Animation, QuickLook, CoreImage, CoreAudio, you already have the media databases (music, pictures, movies), the WebKit rendering engine etc etc.

I'm not much of a cocoa programmer though... :-)

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AxisHost replied to my letter....

"If you want a refund for the money you gave ADM Hosting in February, you will have to contact ADM Hosting. We're not them. We didn't purchase their company.

Tina P, Sales and Support
AxisHOST.com, Inc."

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At 11/7/07 06:08 PM, Momo-the-Monkey wrote: AxisHost replied to my letter....

"If you want a refund for the money you gave ADM Hosting in February, you will have to contact ADM Hosting. We're not them. We didn't purchase their company.

Tina P, Sales and Support
AxisHOST.com, Inc."

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I guess it is lawsuit time? You keep on saying how $30 for a bunch of people wouldn't be that much for each of you, shouldn't it be the same way for them?


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At 11/7/07 04:18 PM, Momo-the-Monkey wrote: But really, what would I sue for? The whole plan was $60, but going to court would cost much more. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I do think it's more expensive to sue. (I do have a relative as a lawyer, but he's only for a completely different type of case)

You can always report them to the Better Business Bureau.


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Ok here are my feelings on the matter. If they said that they would provide you with service until the contract ended, they should provide that service. They're the ones that took that responsibility on. I would definitely get their company contact info with their address and file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau rather than suing. A lawsuit won't get you anywhere except to clog the small claims courts up with more crap over a whole $30. Just to go to small claims will cost more for the court fees than the $30.


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The Better Business Bureau? Never heard of them. What do they do?

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At 11/7/07 06:40 PM, Momo-the-Monkey wrote: The Better Business Bureau? Never heard of them. What do they do?

Check out their site: http://welcome.bbb.org/

They pretty much monitor complaints. If you're a company, you can register with them and they'll investigate a complaint. They'll try to resolve the complaint if you can't.


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The trick is to not be suing alone over $30, but sue with 25 people for alot more (find people who had dedicated servers etc cut off, they lost alot more).

That BBB thing probably won't be able to do much, as it isn't a legal institution.

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Gah Momo, I wouldn't spend anymore time on them. I know it's probably VERY frustrating, but look at it this way: they are a failed company who clearly doesn't do much business and probably won't even be there that much longer. I doubt you want to pay thousands of dollars in lawyers fees to receive at most $60 in damages (unless you can somehow prove that the downtime is causing your site to lose tremendous amounts of money).

I think the best thing to do is just move on and not renew your service with them. Do you really want to have your data on the servers of a place that you're disputing with and doesn't want you? I know I wouldn't, being that they had access to all of my files and passwords.


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At 11/7/07 06:49 PM, elbekko wrote: That BBB thing probably won't be able to do much, as it isn't a legal institution.

Actually, it's a MUCH more realistic solution than suing that won't break the bank because it's free, and you can prove your point at the same time. It costs nothing to get people to file complaints against them, so you can probably get a number of people to do so.


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Your legal system must be very different from ours.
Out here, the losing party must pay the cost of the lawsuit, legal fees, etc. If you know you can win, and in this case you can if you have enough proof and enough people, it would be a good way to see the bastards suffer.

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At 11/7/07 07:23 PM, elbekko wrote: Out here, the losing party must pay the cost of the lawsuit, legal fees, etc. If you know you can win, and in this case you can if you have enough proof and enough people, it would be a good way to see the bastards suffer.

Aahh, that's interesting. It doesn't work like that here so that's why I say it wouldn't be nearly worth it because the hourly rate lawyers charge these days would put them so far back even if they won that it would be a financial burden.


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At 11/7/07 07:23 PM, elbekko wrote: Your legal system must be very different from ours.
Out here, the losing party must pay the cost of the lawsuit, legal fees, etc. If you know you can win, and in this case you can if you have enough proof and enough people, it would be a good way to see the bastards suffer.

It has nothing to do with legalities to go through the BBB. The BBB only serves as a mediator. Say you hired a plumber to redo some pipes and he does a lousy job, he breaks the contract or charges much more than the initial estimate, you can complain and get compensated. That and the BBB keeps a record of the complaints so you can look a company up and find out if they are who they say they are and if there were any problems with them. It's just so much easier than crapping up the legal system with more usless stuff.


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