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When in the classroom: KEEP THE FUCKING OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!

My sides are splitting from this! I can't stop laughing at this!

oh man, you've totally made my day!

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Man I hope you were drunk when you wrote this!!

At 9/24/06 07:55 PM, Imperator wrote:

When in the classroom: KEEP THE FUCKING OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!

My sides are splitting from this! I can't stop laughing at this!

oh man, you've totally made my day!

ahahahhahahahahahhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HHAHAHAHA!

Man I hope you were drunk when you wrote this!!

Im always drunk

As a matter of fact im drinking right now.

That aint no joke.

Teachers aren't supposed to add their opinions into what they teach, most prominently referring to evolution and political party affiliation...so uh....that be wrong of him.....

At 9/27/06 10:53 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: Teachers aren't supposed to add their opinions into what they teach, most prominently referring to evolution and political party affiliation...so uh....that be wrong of him.....

Altho there was a History teacher a while back just slamming the US for what it's been doing. Was even recorded as well, yet the liberals backed him 100% on guess what? Freedom of speech.

At 9/14/06 11:40 PM, Torso-Zombie wrote: I am a Junior in high school, and I'm currently in a Bio 2 class. I like the teacher, and I think that he's a very intelligant man, but I sometimes wonder weather or not he should be teaching the subject that he teaches. You see, he's EXTREMELY religious. This wouldn't be too much of a problem, except for the fact that about a fourth of our lesson plan is about evolution. At just about every chance he gets, my teacher mentions that he thinks it's a load of shit. What's even weirder, he believes in SOME evolution because science has proven it, but he still doesn't believe that HUMANS evolved, even though he admits that we are animals. So the question is, do you think that a man like this is suited for this kind of job?

It seems that he was a biology teacher so that he can skew the truth, I'm sure anyone that goes into that class could see that he is biased and probably leans to the christain methods, he probably picked that so they would have other knowlge and be ignorant enough to believe him.

At 9/27/06 10:54 PM, Hydoken wrote:

It seems that he was a biology teacher so that he can skew the truth, I'm sure anyone that goes into that class could see that he is biased and probably leans to the christain methods, he probably picked that so they would have other knowlge and be ignorant enough to believe him.

Or it's just his way of making money. My chemistry teacher is more fit to teach biology and the biology teacher at my school is more fit to teach chemistry, but they do the jobs they're assigned.

At 9/14/06 11:40 PM, Torso-Zombie wrote: I am a Junior in high school, and I'm currently in a Bio 2 class. I like the teacher, and I think that he's a very intelligant man, but I sometimes wonder weather or not he should be teaching the subject that he teaches. You see, he's EXTREMELY religious. This wouldn't be too much of a problem, except for the fact that about a fourth of our lesson plan is about evolution. At just about every chance he gets, my teacher mentions that he thinks it's a load of shit. What's even weirder, he believes in SOME evolution because science has proven it, but he still doesn't believe that HUMANS evolved, even though he admits that we are animals. So the question is, do you think that a man like this is suited for this kind of job?

There's a lot of dissent on whether or not evolution is real. And I am of the believe that if you don't want the opposition heard...then your case sucks. No one in the world would hesitate to shoot down a "flat-earther". But on evolution....NO DISCUSSION IT IS SETTLED!

And as for him believing in "some evolution", he's probably talking micro-evolution, which is really just minor variations in a species. Almost like two brown haired people produce a blonde baby. It means nothing really, and a lot of it is directed by humans.

sure he is qualified (atleast i think he is) but he has his own opinions and there is nothing wrong with that he u have your own opinion no one says your not a suitable person aslong as he is teaching u whats in the text book then he is the right teacher

At 9/29/06 12:53 AM, WolvenBear wrote: There's a lot of dissent on whether or not evolution is real. And I am of the believe that if you don't want the opposition heard...then your case sucks.

The only "dissent" is in the religious community that is trying to dress up a philosophy in a suit of science. It is not science which is why it deserves no time in a SCIENCE CLASSROOM. It has nothing to do with proving or disproving creationism, it is the simple fact creationism assumes something and has no independently verifiable proof, which is why it is a philosophy. I mean, shit, the fossil record goes from micro organisms, to sea creatures, to amphibians, to reptiles, to mammals, to us. From in the ocean to on both land and ocean to on land to in the air. Maybe, just MAYBE that might suggest evolution?

We know it happened. We are still unsure exactly of the mechanisms. At least I am but Im no biologist.

WolvenBear brings an interesting argument. Yet another example of leftist hypocrisy.

At 9/29/06 12:53 AM, WolvenBear wrote: There's a lot of dissent on whether or not evolution is real. And I am of the believe that if you don't want the opposition heard...then your case sucks.

You can show opposition to scientific arguements through scientific evidence. So on the off chance this biology teacher has legitamite scientific evidence that the rest of the scientific community doesn't have disproving evolution, I wouldn't like him telling a classroom of students that it's a load of shit. Just the other day my physics teacher was explaining the Big Bang theory and the evidence supporting it. One student asked for his opinion on the topic and he told him if he really wanted to know, to discuss it with him after class. You teach evidence and theories in a science class, not opinions.

Fuck yah he's qualified. Thank God for a guy intelligent enough to pose two sides of an issue.

If you think he's full of shit, more power to you. The biggest asshole is the asshole that won't give you the benefit of making up your own mind.

At 11/8/06 12:07 AM, Nylo wrote: Fuck yah he's qualified. Thank God for a guy intelligent enough to pose two sides of an issue.

If you think he's full of shit, more power to you. The biggest asshole is the asshole that won't give you the benefit of making up your own mind.

What two sides, there is only supposed to be one aspect in science, it is called evidence. Religion and this teachers selectively rational opinion don't belong in a science class.

Jesus christ I completly forgot about this topic.

If he is shedding his personal opinions she should be fired and never alowed to teach

At 11/8/06 03:26 PM, Freemind wrote: What two sides, there is only supposed to be one aspect in science, it is called evidence. Religion and this teachers selectively rational opinion don't belong in a science class.

Wrong. There is never one aspect in science. Even by our established laws, we are trained to look at everything critically. Human evolution is full of holes, and it is to the benefit of the students if they know what these holes are.

In the real world you have elements of religion and evolution clashing all the time. The earlier students are aware of this, and can think intellegently in light of this, the better they will be religiously and/or pupils of science.

Opinions belong in the classroom.

At 11/9/06 01:55 AM, Nylo wrote: Opinions belong in the classroom.

No they don't. How to pass the upcoming exam belongs in the classroom.

The end.

Why not, if he's not agree. is his point of view

Being a teacher is about facts, ok. they pump the info from the book in your head. He has a resoncibility to teach the students. So in a fasion. He is a dictator.

KILL HIM!!!

Evolution is a theory. Creationism is a belief. Evolution can either be proven or disproven. Creationism cannot be demonstrated until the second coming of Christ, if then. Evolution has been supported by scientific evidence found in the fossil record. The closest thing to scientifically proving the existence of a divine being is the contest between Elijah and Ahab, with God and Baal each trying to start a fire. And this event, to my knowledge, is not recorded anywhere but the Bible. Evolution is Science. Creationism is Religion. Evolution belongs in Science class. Creationism belongs in church.

as long as he's not teaching his beliefs as the curriculum rather than the curriculum itself, then it shouldn't be too bad... as long as he's talking about what the text says more that what he thinks on the matter

At 11/9/06 01:55 AM, Nylo wrote:

At 11/8/06 03:26 PM, Freemind wrote: What two sides, there is only supposed to be one aspect in science, it is called evidence. Religion and this teachers selectively rational opinion don't belong in a science class.

Wrong. There is never one aspect in science. Even by our established laws, we are trained to look at everything critically. Human evolution is full of holes, and it is to the benefit of the students if they know what these holes are.

In the real world you have elements of religion and evolution clashing all the time. The earlier students are aware of this, and can think intellegently in light of this, the better they will be religiously and/or pupils of science.

Opinions belong in the classroom.

If he wants to provide scientific evidence in a science classroom then by all means go ahead. Science is supposed to be about evidence and theory. Religion does not belong in a science classroom.

At 11/9/06 02:38 PM, Freemind wrote: If he wants to provide scientific evidence against evolution in a science classroom then by all means go ahead. Science is supposed to be about evidence and theory. Religion does not belong in a science classroom.

Fixed, typed it too fast.

At 11/9/06 11:13 AM, Peter-II wrote: No they don't. How to pass the upcoming exam belongs in the classroom.

The end.

Your end blows, and I pray to God you never enroll in a profession of education.

Education is about getting people to think, not just regurgitating crap to the students. Make them think outside the box, challenge their ideals, help the understand why things are the way they are.

The real world isn't a science equation. If your whole purpose in school is just to get nice letters on your report card, I can't say I envy your pathetic waste of educational potential.

At 11/9/06 02:38 PM, Freemind wrote: If he wants to provide scientific evidence in a science classroom then by all means go ahead. Science is supposed to be about evidence and theory. Religion does not belong in a science classroom.

Wrong. There's a fine line between educating people on how the two are not mutually exclusive, and crossing into the line of pressing ideals. There is absolutely nothing wrong with providing counter-evidence and alternate views on science in our every day lives as long as it has to do with the subject material.

I'm honestly shocked that some of you are so damn scared of other people's opinions. The topic at hand is "He agrees with some evolution, but doesn't believe humans evolved". So help me out here guys: what's the big fuckin deal? You'd honestly fire the poor bastard because he doesn't believe in evolution of humans and offers a humble opinion of why he thinks so?

So to preserve free thinking in the classroom, we must abolish it? Gimmie a break. You're smarter than that.

At 11/10/06 12:28 AM, Nylo wrote:

At 11/9/06 11:13 AM, Peter-II wrote: No they don't. How to pass the upcoming exam belongs in the classroom.

The end.

Your end blows, and I pray to God you never enroll in a profession of education.

Education is about getting people to think, not just regurgitating crap to the students. Make them think outside the box, challenge their ideals, help the understand why things are the way they are.

Yes, it should be that way. But the education system is managed in such a way that that simply isn't true. The only thing you need from school is grades, not your ability to think independently. Those kind of skills are only truly attained when you go to university. However, opinions don't belong in the high school classroom because every lesson is vital - you have precisely enough lessons in order to cover the syllabus required to pass the exam.

The exam which determines your very grades asks you about the process of natural selection. Do you answer the question as required, or do you bull about "alternatives" to evolution? No. That will not get you the mark. Telling kids in the classroom your opinions will merely confuse them.

The real world isn't a science equation. If your whole purpose in school is just to get nice letters on your report card, I can't say I envy your pathetic waste of educational potential.

Great, another ad-hominem attack. I have acquired the ability to think idependently or "outside the box" as you so aptly put it, believe it or not. All I'm saying is that the ability to think idependently shouldn't be in the classroom because of the way the education system is. If you think that the education system is bad in this respect, then to an extent I agree with you. However, you should adapt your argument from "opinions belong in the classroom" to "the ability to think idependently should be incorporated into the education system". That would be more specific / helpful.

Also, creationism isn't science and should be in a religious studies class rather than a Biology class.