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I might be showing the fact that I am a college student, but has anyone seen the new MSOffice 365?

At 2/1/13 06:44 PM, theburningliberal wrote: I might be showing the fact that I am a college student, but has anyone seen the new MSOffice 365?

No. Is it worth getting?

At 1/30/13 12:30 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Tentative date for new kidney set: March 1st. Just need the doctoring committee to confirm it.

Ahh geez, best o' luck Cam!
You too moref*bs! (damn.. and thought i was one of the oldies here ;)

Hey Mason, how's it kickin?
Yeh, haven't been around since Obama got in (..err well, since Bush departed)
Shits heating up a bit.. can't explain here but just get that feeling.. maybe it's me.

Just been checking the Collab-thing-a-ma-jig. They prolly need few more options in the dropdowns.

At 2/2/13 12:26 AM, TheMason wrote:

At 2/1/13 06:44 PM, theburningliberal wrote: I might be showing the fact that I am a college student, but has anyone seen the new MSOffice 365?

No. Is it worth getting?

I've been playing around with Word, haven't tried the other programs yet. Seems structurally unchanged from 2010 version but a lot of the features have been updated. For instance, the citation generator is now up-to-date with the latest changes in MLA/APA format, and (from what I can tell so far) the biggest change is the fact that it is now tied to an account with Microsoft, which enables could storage from within the program. It can also sync changes that were made offline to files saved on the the cloud automatically when you reconnect.

For me, that is actually really helpful. I do my work for school on several different computers (mine, my mom's, any of about a zillion computers at school)... So now, instead of having to take time to ensure that my files are saved somewhere where I can access them, I pretty much can just save them once and have access to them wherever I go.

I also know they made some major updates to powerpoint, including a "Presenter's View" when presenting that lets you see the slide and all your notes on the presenter's terminal while only showing the audience the slide itself.

Perhaps the biggest change, overall, though, is that instead of just charging one price for it, you can now get MSOffice as a subscription service for like 10$ a month. Once I get some cash together, I am actually going to get the student discount, which gives me 4 years of the subscription service for 80$ (versus 480$ at 10/month or 400$ at 100$/year). The subscription service entitles you to all the updates, features, help, etc.. for Office programs, including, I think, next-version upgrades.

I can't believe I completely forgot about the Super Bowl until this week! I saw some ads for it, but had no idea it was coming on so soon. My mom is going to go to the grocery store tomorrow and I might go with it to pick stuff out. She got two pizzas and decided to use one of them for the SB.

At 2/2/13 03:14 AM, JudgeDredd wrote:

At 1/30/13 12:30 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Tentative date for new kidney set: March 1st. Just need the doctoring committee to confirm it.

Ahh geez, best o' luck Cam!
You too moref*bs! (damn.. and thought i was one of the oldies here ;)

AWESOME!

Hey Mason, how's it kickin?
Yeh, haven't been around since Obama got in (..err well, since Bush departed)
Shits heating up a bit.. can't explain here but just get that feeling.. maybe it's me.

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Things are going good. I've shifted gears twice since '08, I went back active with the Air Guard once I got back from my deployment and didn't go back to finish my PhD.

Now I'm back in school to get my HS social studies certificate. Much better path for me.

Just been checking the Collab-thing-a-ma-jig. They prolly need few more options in the dropdowns.

Hey...hope to see you back in here sometime!

At 2/2/13 09:44 AM, theburningliberal wrote: Stuff

The cloud sounds awesome. I'm getting my education certificate then go back for a history masters, so I'm in the same boat with using multiple computers.

Not sure about the subscription though. I mean what happens when the four years are up? You can't keep using the program?

At 2/2/13 12:24 PM, TheMason wrote:

At 2/2/13 09:44 AM, theburningliberal wrote: Stuff

The cloud sounds awesome. I'm getting my education certificate then go back for a history masters, so I'm in the same boat with using multiple computers.

Not sure about the subscription though. I mean what happens when the four years are up? You can't keep using the program?

The education discount can be renewed once for the same price (so you get 8 years for $160). If you don't renew as an educator or student, then you can always renew at the normal price (10$/month or 100$/year), or buy it outright for like 250$. They have so many different options its hard for me to keep track of it all.

I've actually been using excel today, I used it to help with my accounting homework. I think the new version of Excel is a bit more user-friendly than previous versions... That is to say, the features that I needed most were right there at the tips of my fingers (like on the Formulas tab, autosum was the first option available on the ribbon and when i added/removed rows and columns, it updated the calculation formulas accordingly).

The programs are also more interconnected now, too. It's easier and faster to insert a chart or graph into a word document using excel. Still haven't tried the other programs yet, but here's an interesting link:

http://www.cio.com/article/679831/13_Cool_Features_of_Office _365

At 2/2/13 12:18 PM, TheMason wrote: Things are going good. I've shifted gears twice since '08, I went back active with the Air Guard once I got back from my deployment and didn't go back to finish my PhD.

I'm lucky I abandoned my hopes for a PhD early on. I didn't think I could handle the pure amount of writing, so, naturally, I went to law school... (where you write a ton)

I've been working on my scupting. Naturally, when I showed what I've done, everyone is now wanting me to make them something.

ugh.

one coworker asked if I could make a deer head. the ears are giving me shit fits. making the basic head was simple, i used a pair of small black glass marbles for eyes, but the FUCKING EARS ARE DRIVING ME INSANE!

I worked on them for over 4 hours today and in the end, It still has no ears. I think I may have bitten off more than I can chew on this challenge. Of course, that's all the more reason for me to conquer it.

@Korri what do you make your sculptures out of?

At 2/2/13 03:45 PM, Camarohusky wrote: I'm lucky I abandoned my hopes for a PhD early on. I didn't think I could handle the pure amount of writing, so, naturally, I went to law school... (where you write a ton)

I talked to a few law students when I was in grad school. They said it was crazy competitive...people tearing pages out of library books so other students wouldn't get the info (and thereby get ahead).

But hey...they could've been exaggerating, right?

The writing doesn't bother me...I love to write (hence my very long and boring posts!)...it's the math that got me. Once we got into the higher order stats I just struggled. I understand what they are saying...just performing the operations gets me befuddled.

That's why if I ever complete a PhD it'll be in history!

At 2/2/13 03:04 PM, theburningliberal wrote: The programs are also more interconnected now, too. It's easier and faster to insert a chart or graph into a word document using excel. Still haven't tried the other programs yet, but here's an interesting link:

Cool, I'll have to look into it. I'm more of a Word and PPT guy myself. (I love being able to include video and humorous slides into my lessons!)

At 2/2/13 09:44 AM, theburningliberal wrote: Perhaps the biggest change, overall, though, is that instead of just charging one price for it, you can now get MSOffice as a subscription service for like 10$ a month. Once I get some cash together, I am actually going to get the student discount, which gives me 4 years of the subscription service for 80$ (versus 480$ at 10/month or 400$ at 100$/year). The subscription service entitles you to all the updates, features, help, etc.. for Office programs, including, I think, next-version upgrades.

Everything is becoming some monthly subscription these days. Netflix, Streaming-audio like Pandora/Spotify, HBO (cable add-on), and now software - isn't Adobe playing with a subscription model for the CS6 programs as well? Sometimes I feel like it's easy to lose sight of how much you're actually spending on these services. If I told you that Netflix was $120 up front - would you think more on it before committing? $9.99 a month sounds nicer (probably why it's popular with companies).

For students Office 365 seems like a good idea - you only plan on using it for a few years at most and you are transient and switching machines all the time. But then again, I got Adobe CS3 Master Suite for $100 with a student discount years ago and a full version of MS office for like $10 per computer in college from my school. I can't really say what I'd do if I were entering school today. I might be interested in a subscription that I could start and stop as needed like if I go into the working world and my work computer comes with all the stuff I need, why would I need a personal subscription.

At 2/3/13 01:02 AM, Iron-Hampster wrote: @Korri what do you make your sculptures out of?

clay.

At 2/3/13 01:41 AM, TheMason wrote: I talked to a few law students when I was in grad school. They said it was crazy competitive...people tearing pages out of library books so other students wouldn't get the info (and thereby get ahead).

Can, but the school I went to was known for having a pretty cooperative atmosphere. Then again, I was never really competition. I'm 1000 times better at actual lawyering than I am at law exam taking (which has about as much to do with being an attorney as having pink hair does with being able to play sports.)

I was always better at taking a statement or a fact and completely breaking it down than I was at the tests. Funny thing about law school exams. They're everything in school, but when you leave (and if you had a good professor while you were in school) you get told that everything they want you to do on the tests (remember the law and shit it out choppily in a short time period) is not only poor lawyering, but a one way path to malpractice. In other words, the exams teach you how to be a shitty attorney.

The writing doesn't bother me...I love to write (hence my very long and boring posts!)...it's the math that got me. Once we got into the higher order stats I just struggled. I understand what they are saying...just performing the operations gets me befuddled.

Yeah, statistics is yucky. I was happy stopping after third level calculus.

What were you going for, anyway?

That's why if I ever complete a PhD it'll be in history!

Not as easy as it sounds. Key to writing your doctoral thesis in history is finding a new idea or a new take on an idea. With history staying the same (generally) and thousands of new PhDs in history every year, in addition to articles and papers written by already graduated scholars, the amount of new ideas is shrinking very fast. There's a reason history thesises are so damn narrow. "The family structure of the Post-Punic, Pre-Empire Roman household outside of the Capital" Type shit. That topic may not even be narrow enough.

At 2/3/13 11:41 AM, Camarohusky wrote: What were you going for, anyway?

Poli Sci.

That's why if I ever complete a PhD it'll be in history!

Not as easy as it sounds. Key to writing your doctoral thesis in history is finding a new idea or a new take on an idea.

Yeah, but you know there are plenty of examples of political scientists working on their dissertation and thens something happening to totally negat 2-4 years of research. (ie: the fall of the USSR and Sovietologists.)

I think I'd do something with the Korean War.

At 2/3/13 01:22 PM, morefngdbs wrote:

Epsom salts seem to work.

My Dad's cure all for everything !

even the cure for bland food? god I hope not. that stuff works better than ex lax.

At 2/3/13 01:43 AM, TheMason wrote:

At 2/2/13 03:04 PM, theburningliberal wrote: The programs are also more interconnected now, too. It's easier and faster to insert a chart or graph into a word document using excel. Still haven't tried the other programs yet, but here's an interesting link:

Cool, I'll have to look into it. I'm more of a Word and PPT guy myself. (I love being able to include video and humorous slides into my lessons!)

Just confirming something I wrote yesterday... So I ended up needing to print out a form I needed to do my accounting homework, so I made the document I needed on my computer (which has no printer attached, a Win 7 OS with Office 365 on it... Went to my mom's computer (which has a printer, but is Win XP/SP2) and logged into my skydrive on her computer... Not only were my documents there, but there were web apps of the programs I needed to open them (Excel and Word). The web apps are dumbed down versions of the real programs, but they still contain most of the basic commands needed to edit and format a document. They also maintain the new visual look to Office 365, which is a lot more fluid than previous versions to match the Win 8 OS (which was a surprise to me, I wasn't expecting to see that on a Win XP ! )

Printing in the web apps will turn your document into a .pdf file which you can then download and print using Adobe, which is a bit cumbersome but has the benefit of turning out a .pdf file of the document, which can come in handy. At least that is how it worked for me, might work directly too, I only tried it once

At 2/3/13 11:34 PM, Korriken wrote:

At 2/3/13 01:22 PM, morefngdbs wrote:

Epsom salts seem to work.

My Dad's cure all for everything !

even the cure for bland food? god I hope not. that stuff works better than ex lax.

Well, you could say that following a meal with a bad case of the runs certainly isn't a bland experience...

I saw this political picture and had to chuckle.

At 2/5/13 08:34 AM, morefngdbs wrote: Where as we still have all our movies, which we can watch whenever we like.
At no additional cost.

This is what I mean - you pay a service that can be a couple hundred bucks a year and if you cancel then you lose access to what you've been paying for - whereas if you go out and buy the physical copy you can keep it and keep watching it. I suppose that's why I don't like subscription video games like World of Warcraft. I feel like I'm wasting money if I don't play the game much and if I cancel the subscription then I can't play the game anymore. I guess I'm bi-polar when it comes to gaming - I'll go months without playing a single game but then spend 2 weeks straight playing nothing but one game...and some games I'll buy and never play and others I'll play in spurts once a year or more (like Team Fortress 2)

Then again, with Netflix you have access to a huge multi-million dollar inventory of almost every movie imaginable and many of them you can watch immediately on your computer or TV. And for a year of service it costs less than a couple of weeks of groceries. Even if it's not available for streaming you can get it within a few days through the mail...so I guess it makes some sense. There are even subscription movie theater services where you pay a monthly fee to get unlimited visits to the movie theater.

This is why I'm still on the fence about something like Office 365...because it gives you access to what you need when you need it and you can cancel when you no longer have a need for it but at what point are you spending more on the subscription than if you were to just buy it outright and have access indefinitely?