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At 3/11/10 10:31 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 3/11/10 09:45 PM, stafffighter wrote: I never saw that movie.

*anneurysm*

I second that notion.

/headsplosion

At 3/11/10 11:07 PM, Ravariel wrote:

At 3/11/10 10:31 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 3/11/10 09:45 PM, stafffighter wrote: I never saw that movie.

*anneurysm*

I second that notion.

/headsplosion

"I'll suck you cock for a thousand dollars..."

Frank can't watch though... or he has to pay a hundred...

Today I took a chainmaile piece I'm currently working on (a Jen's Pind pattern made from stainless steel split-lock washers) and showed it to several coworkers who know what I do, and they loved it. Superflexible, soft to the touch, and super strong. But the weirdest reaction I got was the last one; the store manager.

I explained to him what it was, and what it was made of, and even invited him to take it in both hands and try to pull it apart. He had this bewildered look on his face like he thought I had very truly lost my mind and he was worried for my mental and physical well being, handed the piece back to me and said, "You need a salary job, you've got way to much time on your hands."

A guess animals ability to pass wind has gone on long enough. Too deep a subject. But a will save it for later :P

At 3/12/10 06:35 PM, Proteas wrote: handed the piece back to me and said, "You need a salary job, you've got way to much time on your hands."

And their was me thinking all employers ever wanted to know during a job interview, was that their potential employees had a hobby they could talk about, that was genuinely interesting and that they had a passion for.

At 3/8/10 01:19 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

Yeah, I've said forever the best thing for promoters (especially mad bastards like Vince McMahon or Paul Heyman, definitely that sick fuck Onita) was people thinking it's all fake. You can get the boys to do just about anything then because people think it's all crap and they're watching stuntmen who never get hurt or damage themselves doing this stuff. It's why guys like Edge will have shorter careers and make less money then they could have had they not worked in an atmosphere where crazy spots were the norm (of course I imagine Myers and a lot of other fuckers would love to get that kind of "less money"). It's something that truly makes me ashamed to be a fan sometimes and I questioned a lot during the height of the hardcore of the 90's if there wasn't some responsibility on the fanbase to stop rewarding guys for killing themselves in such a way and just try to pop for and encourage a somewhat safer style.

I don't know, if it was supposed to be "safe" we might as well just stick to legitimate sports, like boxing and MMA. I think the problem is that sometimes reality is cheaper than illusion, so guys who are disadvantaged will really hurt themselves doing something a pro with a trampoline ring and high impact mats would just bounce away from. For instance, light tubes aren't actually all that dangerous as long as you take them at a 90 degree angle. When someone actually gets stabbed with one,though, it'll go through flesh like cookie dough.

I really respect any wrestler who's not afraid to get himself hurt, but you don't get the value out of it you deserve if you don't do your homework and learn how to get maximum bang for your buck. That's the difference between a yard tard and a desperate independent. They both get cut to shit, but the trained wrestler has a better display from it.

I blame the Goof. He was so eager to get the oil mat out of there he wasn't careful not to smear the oil on the regular mat.

. I could see Ian Rotten winding up there whenever he gets the hell out of hiding or whatever it is he's doing.

I told you he got busted in Memphis, right? He might be trying to lay low because of his current legal troubles.

Seemed like he had a real love hate with the business going but in the end he'd been bitten by the bug and I'm not sure even now he won't wind up back in at some point doing something.

I already get a lot of my fix from doing music stuff, so I don't care too much if I get cut. However, because of the fact I'm not a desperate mark trying to stay in the biz, I'm actually more likely to get picked up.

Yeah. I dunno what to tell you there, I guess if you want to stay in try and sell yourself as having something meaningful to bring to the table, or just that they can't do without. But really I guess you're at the mercy of the new owners because they'll probably have their own laundry list of people they'll want to bring in and give jobs to.

I met Motley's announcer; he worked with me on the last show. We seem to be able to work together well. Myers promised me keeping the current lineup was a big part of the sale of the business; then again, I could also see him not wanting to have to admit to me that the ride was over, as they say.

There's nothing lamer than seeing some talentless hack with eyes all full of sparkles beg you for a chance. I get that all the time from amateur musicians, and I know better than to act that way about wrestling. It's funny to joke about crushing dreams, but really, I've had to drop the axe many times over the years. You learn how to just let people drift away instead of firing them, and that's probably what's going to happen to me. Then again, people seem to think I do a good job, and I've got two more shows with SnV people Myers goes home. There's a lot of space for something to happen in there.

At 3/12/10 07:32 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: I don't know, if it was supposed to be "safe" we might as well just stick to legitimate sports, like boxing and MMA. I think the problem is that sometimes reality is cheaper than illusion, so guys who are disadvantaged will really hurt themselves doing something a pro with a trampoline ring and high impact mats would just bounce away from. For instance, light tubes aren't actually all that dangerous as long as you take them at a 90 degree angle. When someone actually gets stabbed with one,though, it'll go through flesh like cookie dough.

Yeah, I get what your saying all around here. My point has just been I wish more guys if they're going to use a staple gun or something would just take the gun, forget the staple, and just blade if they want color. Or maybe we could use a little reality and go "look, a staple in the head ain't gonna bleed really. I respect (and fear a bit) the toughness of a guy who says "nah, staple my ass, it's cool" but I tend to think the old timers like a Les Thatcher have it right when they say "look, the reason the business is a work is so that you can have your match and go have a beer afterwards without having to hit the emergency room in between".

I really respect any wrestler who's not afraid to get himself hurt, but you don't get the value out of it you deserve if you don't do your homework and learn how to get maximum bang for your buck. That's the difference between a yard tard and a desperate independent. They both get cut to shit, but the trained wrestler has a better display from it.

Usually. I think some indie guys though wind up getting the skill to take it, but they don't have the psychology to build to it. I mean, it might pop some hardcores to have a 10,000 thumbtack exploding ring, buttplug on a pole, bomb match. But the problem there is there's so many gimmicks and so much blood that's all people are coming for. Now you wind up with the next show maybe needing 20,000 thumbtacks, two buttplugs on the pole, 12 bombs, and the whole damn building explode. That's why something like Taker/Michaels at last year's Mania is better remembered then a lot of hardcore bouts (and that includes hardcore bouts promoted by WWE or WCW even) because if your not in there telling a story and making your weapons meaningful, if fans don't care about the man that's taking the bump into the barbed wire or the tacks, well then hell what's the point and how do you advance yourself? You're just the meat servicing the gimmick, rather then the gimmick servicing you.

I blame the Goof. He was so eager to get the oil mat out of there he wasn't careful not to smear the oil on the regular mat.

Yeah, ring crew that do the job properly is essential.

I told you he got busted in Memphis, right? He might be trying to lay low because of his current legal troubles.

I'm not sure if you told me that or not. I was hazy on what exactly got him nailed, I just remember reading he shut down IWA Mid-South because he was in some very bad legal shit and basically needed to disappear.

I already get a lot of my fix from doing music stuff, so I don't care too much if I get cut. However, because of the fact I'm not a desperate mark trying to stay in the biz, I'm actually more likely to get picked up.

Yeah, I can see that.

I met Motley's announcer; he worked with me on the last show. We seem to be able to work together well. Myers promised me keeping the current lineup was a big part of the sale of the business; then again, I could also see him not wanting to have to admit to me that the ride was over, as they say.

Mmm hmm. I don't know Hack obviously, and I haven't heard much about Hack to be able to say whether or not you can trust his word. I'd really like to think he's telling the truth though and made sure to take care of his guys before he went. Least it's not like you were working for Jarrett, lolbadpayoffsthatbarelycovergasmoney!!!

There's nothing lamer than seeing some talentless hack with eyes all full of sparkles beg you for a chance. I get that all the time from amateur musicians, and I know better than to act that way about wrestling. It's funny to joke about crushing dreams, but really, I've had to drop the axe many times over the years. You learn how to just let people drift away instead of firing them, and that's probably what's going to happen to me. Then again, people seem to think I do a good job, and I've got two more shows with SnV people Myers goes home. There's a lot of space for something to happen in there.

Yeah, true. I'm glad you've got a good "take it or leave it" attitude with all that, because it seems like the business can really suck people in and it's an unforgiving beast where for every Undertaker or Shawn Michaels, there's a thousand nameless guys who never get that big break and wind up permanently hurting themselves for 50 bucks a night and that "maybe they'll get that big break".

You know what I could never get behind? When they started calling forest fires wildfires. Like do a statistically significant portion of these not happen to forests?

At 3/12/10 09:26 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

Yeah, I get what your saying all around here. My point has just been I wish more guys if they're going to use a staple gun or something would just take the gun, forget the staple, and just blade if they want color. Or maybe we could use a little reality and go "look, a staple in the head ain't gonna bleed really. I respect (and fear a bit) the toughness of a guy who says "nah, staple my ass, it's cool" but I tend to think the old timers like a Les Thatcher have it right when they say "look, the reason the business is a work is so that you can have your match and go have a beer afterwards without having to hit the emergency room in between".

You'd be surprised how little stuff like broken glass hurts after you've had a chance to wash it out. I've done MANY shows with Myers where he's still fit enough to work on ring crew after taking a shitload of big bumps all night. You're right, though, the hard part is making people care. Then again, that's the hard part about life, really.

if your not in there telling a story and making your weapons meaningful, if fans don't care about the man that's taking the bump into the barbed wire or the tacks, well then hell what's the point and how do you advance yourself? You're just the meat servicing the gimmick, rather then the gimmick servicing you.

It's doubly hard when you don't have the ability to broadcast promos to the crowd to fill time at shows, and don't have years of tradition to build crowd involvement. We do the best we can to give the wrestlers lots of mic time, but without stuff like a wireless mic there's only so much we can do.

Frankly, if I've gonna have some guy get thrown though my announcing table, I'm not gonna want to risk a 500$ Shure wireless when a 100$ sm58 on a wire will do. It's painful to watch some speedo clad goof bounce a piece of equipment that cost a benjamin off the asphalt.

I'm not sure if you told me that or not. I was hazy on what exactly got him nailed, I just remember reading he shut down IWA Mid-South because he was in some very bad legal shit and basically needed to disappear.

Man, I really don't know if I should tell you what I know on this one, because what I know is pretty fucking bad. Basically, he had a line on pharmaceuticals, and figured if he sold a lot of tabs at the show he'd make a profit on the trip regardless. He had left to go do some unspecified "thing" after meeting up with us at House of Thor, and next thing we know the show's delayed two hours and we have to do it without him. I have my suspicions that he was trying to pull a Brian Christopher and trade some of what he had for some stuff he didn't, and got busted driving slow in the bad part of town looking for prospects.

Mmm hmm. I don't know Hack obviously, and I haven't heard much about Hack to be able to say whether or not you can trust his word. I'd really like to think he's telling the truth though and made sure to take care of his guys before he went. Least it's not like you were working for Jarrett, lolbadpayoffsthatbarelycovergasmoney!!!

Haha, that's why it was so ironic that Ian Rotten got busted. KARMA, BITCH!

Yeah, true. I'm glad you've got a good "take it or leave it" attitude with all that, because it seems like the business can really suck people in and it's an unforgiving beast where for every Undertaker or Shawn Michaels, there's a thousand nameless guys who never get that big break and wind up permanently hurting themselves for 50 bucks a night and that "maybe they'll get that big break".

Call me a sicko, but I'll do all I can to enable people to hurt themselves. I'm totally the "hey, yeah, jump off that ladder onto the concrete, it's a great idea!" kinda guy. There are guys out there getting their skulls cracked in mosh pits with no hope of recognition, at least wrestlers have a dream.

At 3/12/10 09:34 PM, stafffighter wrote: You know what I could never get behind? When they started calling forest fires wildfires. Like do a statistically significant portion of these not happen to forests?

we called them forest fires in the state forest I grew up in. What's neat is we had old iron fire towers on a few of the highest mountains that the forest rangers used until the 1970s to spot any forest fires. Most of them have been taken down or closed but one or two have been restored by private donations and you can go up them and see what the forest rangers used to see.

At 3/12/10 09:26 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 3/12/10 07:32 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: I don't know, if it was supposed to be "safe" we might as well just stick to legitimate sports,

"look, the reason the business is a work is so that you can have your match and go have a beer afterwards without having to hit the emergency room in between".

;;;
I've worked too many WWF & WWE shows, to pay any attention to which company it is anymore.

One thing I learned the first show & hasn't changed in any since is this type of Wrestling is pure THEATRE !
100% in every aspect.
They work from a script .
They have professional choreographers on staff who work & travel with the entertainers (ok Wrestlers).
They rehearse, back stage they meet & discuss what's working in the act & what isn't .
They employ props masters & stunt coordinators to maximize the BANG & minimize the 'damage'
They tour with a fully equipped gym that is set up for all the on camera personel to use & weights are kept just out of view for 'Wrestlers to do a few reps just before stepping into the spotlight !
All of it is show & I've sat down & ate with the Bad Guy's discussing with the Good Guy's timing for their up coming 'fight'

I really respect any wrestler who's not afraid to get himself hurt, but you don't get the value out of it you deserve if you don't do your homework and learn how to get maximum bang for your buck.

;;; If these guy's end up hurt, someone has made a mistake in timing, landing or theirs been a fuck up.
It is always 100% about walking out to the next gig, because It truely is all about making money & the way to do that is for the show to go on.

I don't know what your into Funk...but it sounds like the Early Days of Wrestling when the guy's were trying to figure out how to make a buck & real injuries were part of every show !

The thing that always got me about pro-wrestling is the amount of time some guys will spend on their physical fitness. I'll never forget the night Kane stood-up with X-Pac wrapped around his arm (X-Pac was trying to apply an armlock, if I remember right) and proceeded to slam the guy repeatedly into the mat choke-slam style in an effort to get him loose. One arm, unassisted. He just stood up bent over at the waist, then straightened out completely and took X-Pac up into the air above his head and WHAM back down to the ground.

God I wish I could find a clip of that.

3.0 and above is, usually, I assume the average for damage.

I´ve felt tiny ones, between 1 and 2.
For me at least, a big earthquake is above four.

The Loma Prieta of 1989 was 6.9, and that was a big one. I don´t want to imagine how it must have felt in Chile, if a 6.9 scared me. (Although, I was a kid back then... but I still remember it strong enough to move cars.)

And that big one moved Chile like... 10 feet to the left or right, and slowed the world axis.

But earthquakes aren´t bad... it´s about where you are and how well built your building is. That´s why Haiti had it bad... their building codes are terrible, and that´s because their poor.

BRIAN'S SURVIVAL GUIDE TO EARTHQUAKES

1.0-Is somebody shaking their leg?

2.0-Who's doing construction work?

3.0-I'm pretty sure that wasn't the drink earlier....

4.0-Shouldn't we move or something?

5.0-Now we should do that safety thing they taught us

6.0-Uh....duck?

7.0-WHENEVER-You're screwed.

we used to get little earthquakes where I grew up, got woken up one morning by a gentle rocking.

If I remember correctly about earthquakes, each 1.0 (or was it 0.1?) on the scale up is another 10X the magnitude below it, so a 6 may be close to a 5, but it's really ten times the strength of a 5...

I find it terrible how people act in earthquakes... I always go into action and either duck and cover, spread eagle... and sometimes running.

Like in 2007 when I was still working in the bar, people didn't do anything and they were DIRECTLY under head fixtures and electrical stuff.

In 2003 when I was working in a bank, we had a very strange one where things weren't shaking... but swaying.

It felt exactly like how I would feel when I get a little tipsy (but not drunk.) Like... a quick swig of champaign or something. It was one of those odd earthquakes I can remember for being not so frightening, but unique. In any case, I ducked and cover during a transaction and a lot of people did the same. And mind you-- I left, maybe, five grand on the desk without double counting it twice. (This was, before, all cashiers started to use electronic money sorters every single fricking second...) Thank god the guy didn't pocket a few hundred, then claimed I short changed him...

At 3/15/10 05:09 AM, fli wrote: I find it terrible how people act in earthquakes... I always go into action and either duck and cover, spread eagle... and sometimes running.

That's how you tell someone is NOT from California, because they drill emergency actions into your brain during school.

Anyways, popping in, seeing how all you guys are doing.

Despite living in Tennessee, I have a vivid memory of one earthquake about a year ago. It was a 3.0 that originated in west Tennessee (I believe) and shook hard enough and far enough to wake me up in bed that morning, which was weird... it was like someone shook my bed real quick, then I rolled over and went back to sleep.

I didn't get weirded out about it until later on in the day, when other people started talking about it.

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I've got a case of Gout in my left ankle, and I'm on medication for ti, but my doctor reccomended that I should keep drinking cherry juice if it helped (supposedly it does). So I went to a healthfood store and got PURE cherry juice instead of the from-concentrate stuff I have been drinking... and it's frickin' nasty. No sugar, no preservatives, not even watered down... just pure juice strained of pulp and fruit bits. I had to go and buy some of that cheapo "lightly flavored diet water" stuff that's really just club soda + aspartame and flavorings to cut it with. Now it's like drinking really stout koolaid.

Also; I'm going to be seriously disappointed if somebody doesn't get this.

I'm not even that big a fan of the series, but I couldn't resist doing this outfit.

At 3/15/10 07:47 PM, Proteas wrote:

Also; I'm going to be seriously disappointed if somebody doesn't get this.

I'm not even that big a fan of the series, but I couldn't resist doing this outfit.

I want to say Wildcats but that's provavly wrong.

At 3/15/10 09:40 PM, stafffighter wrote: I want to say Wildcats but that's provavly wrong.

Nope, you got it right. It's Grifter in an alternate outfit (Clicky

10 cool points to Stafffighter.

At 3/15/10 09:53 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 3/15/10 09:40 PM, stafffighter wrote: I want to say Wildcats but that's provavly wrong.

Nope, you got it right. It's Grifter in an alternate outfit (Clicky

10 cool points to Stafffighter.

I remember they had a cartoon for a while. This was the period where everything was trying and failing to be the new x-men. When I saw the bandana and two guns that's all I could think of. Like it wasn't the same costume I remembered but still his motif.

Well, a fair number of people in game are making oddball dual pistols characts, and I didn't want to do the obvious things like Matrix or Wild West themed stuff, so I've been rooting around for different stuff... like Grifter... and Vash the Stampede from Trigun, an outfit I've gotten a compliment about.

But his main or signature outfit is stimying me, because he really doesn't have an origin story. I'm thinking of just putting him in grey jogging pants with a blue t-shirt and barefeet, with a 1 week growth of beard.... pretty much what I look like right now.

At 3/15/10 07:41 PM, BrianEtrius wrote:

At 3/15/10 05:09 AM, fli wrote: I find it terrible how people act in earthquakes... I always go into action and either duck and cover, spread eagle... and sometimes running.

That's how you tell someone is NOT from California, because they drill emergency actions into your brain during school.

Anyways, popping in, seeing how all you guys are doing.

I thought you were originally from New York...
Anyway-- are we meeting up for Pride again this year? I think it's in June...

I met a guy who's the most fantastic gym partner--
We can do heavy weights without going, "Oh, fuck... too tired." We can push each other and really get hyped out.

We don't mind touching each other. Other guys are like, "Oh, this is too homo-ish-- lemme step off for a sec."

No, instead, he smacks me in the pec, holds on my arms when I need it. Pushes me beyond my limit. He is by far the only gym partner I felt that's most compatible with me... and that's more harder than finding a girlfriend or boyfriend, I think. It's hard to get a good chemistry when it comes with gym partners. Either they are too chatty, or too serious.

At 3/14/10 07:41 PM, SevenSeize wrote: But they have a map of daily seismic activity and it just fascinated me and I was curious why we don't hear about all these 4s and 5s.

;;;
I like this site where you can click on the squares to see info on the earthquake, & its an update of the earthquakes EACH WEEK !
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcentre/rece nteqsww/
( I never knew there were so many, when I was younger)

Oh , on Sevens Photo... the little red dot (just above the red arrow) covers my village, & the next village & a couple thousand acres of trees ~;)