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So Rav, is it "Jack of all trades, Master of none" or am I looking at a future Renaissance Man?
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Completely separate line of thinking:
English SUCKS. Period. I've taken Latin and Greek, am now taking German and French.
How is English like the ONLY Indo-European language to not have:
1.) Verb conjugations
2.) Cases
3.) Gender
????? Or is there another language out there that has absolutely no regular system of doing ANYTHING?
Seriously. What the hell? In every other language, you learn a handful of irregular verbs and your regular pattern for conjugating everything else.
In English, you learn a handful of regular verbs, and everything else is bananas!
And don't get me started on not having a 2nd person plural. You southerners do it right with "y'all". I hear English actually used to have all these things, like 2nd plural, formal and informal, REAL conjugations, etc, which only explains to me that linguists who talk about the "degradation of language" had English in mind......
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Holy ninja'd, batman. plz no ban mi
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At 2/7/10 10:36 PM, Imperator wrote: Seriously though, I would love to edit it. There's something I find very cathartic about proofreading and editing writing, and I love it. I really wouldn't be doing what I was doing if I didn't.
I do the same thing... and it was actually that endeavor that was the inspiration for this current novel idea. I had read a few stories in the same vein when I realized that they were all excellent in concept but poorly executed. And I thought I could streamline them into something coherent, compelling and hopefully publishable in mainstream markets (the original stories were of the naughty variety). But if I decide to go forward with this, I would certainly appreciate your input.
If it helps, you could try what I do, and carry around a small notepad, or put one on your bedstand. I find I get a lot of creativity going late at night before bed (probably some sort of connection to dreams there), and would always regret not having written any of the ideas down before I forgot them the next morning.
Never been my thing, really. I'm a mull for two weeks then write 20 pages in a night kind of guy. Most of my creative processes happen subconsciously... if I get a spark I sit down and write then and there, regardless of the time of day or what I have to do later. General ideas and structures don't get forgotten and little stuff like turns of phrase or plot twists or other structural ideas generally can be replaced later. I've always been of the philosophy that you don't write something until the not-writing of it becomes unbearable... and if the idea I get while falling asleep isn't cool enough to stick with me until morning, it's just not cool enough for school.
Well you seem to have the Saving Grace, which is time management skills (ie, the ability to prioritize). I know too many people who, like you, had many interests, but overextended themselves and ended up having EVERYTHING crash on them. Family hit trouble, girl/boyfriend issues, grades started slipping, couldn't make all the social functions, couldn't practice for teams or clubs, etc.
<funk>AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaahh</funk>
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No. I'm the donkey who starves to death between two piles of equally yummy hay. And I've done the try too many things at once and crash and burn bit already. It's why it took me until now to get my degree (should have had it in 2000, if I'd been a good boy). It's only because I've had to pull my ass up by my bootstraps since then that I've been able to get where I am. My current graduaate track is actually designed to allow me to basically study whatever the hell I want, write about it and make money, all under the guise of studying "human behavior and culture and their interactions with science and technology and the socio-political ramifications therein". Fancy way of saying I get to do whatever I want when the mood strikes.
Basically, I found a loophole... I just hope they let me use it :D
Nasty stuff to find crying girl at your door at 3 AM because her life just completely tanked on her.....not that you're a crying girl or anything..... ;)
*cough*been there, done that... good and bad outcomes... kind of a wash really >_>
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At 2/7/10 10:59 PM, Imperator wrote: So Rav, is it "Jack of all trades, Master of none" or am I looking at a future Renaissance Man?
Potayto, potahto.
How is English like the ONLY Indo-European language to not have:
1.) Verb conjugations
2.) Cases
3.) Gender
To be fair, we have conjugations, they just aren't standardized, noun genders are retarded and only complicate things (really, how is the word "motorcycle" female, Spanish, hmmm?). But I guess that's what you get when you're basically a pidgin of 4 different language types.
And don't get me started on not having a 2nd person plural. You southerners do it right with "y'all".
Amen, and the lack of a good non-gender-specific pronoun. "One" sounds ridiculously pretentious, and the current system of shifting between "he" and "she" by chapter is stupid.
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At 2/7/10 01:06 AM, Der-Lowe wrote:At 2/7/10 12:27 AM, BrianEtrius wrote:At 2/7/10 12:21 AM, Der-Lowe wrote: Still have 'emScrew that lineup
Gyarados Charizard Dragonite Villeplume Jolteon Dugtrio
Blastoise Flareon Victoribell Riachu Pigeoit Snorlax
pfft.
Gengar, Dragonite, Alakazam, Jolteon, Lapras.
I may get soul silver if they put out a wii game to go with it.
At 2/7/10 11:14 PM, Ravariel wrote: Potayto, potahto.
Tater.
and..
WOOHOO! SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL! IN YOUR FACE PEYTON MANNING!
I'm not crazy, everyone else is.
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At 2/7/10 10:59 PM, Imperator wrote: How is English like the ONLY Indo-European language to not have:
1.) Verb conjugations
2.) Cases
3.) Gender
We have conjugate verbs: run, ran, running, rans.
Cases: we/us (plus others)
gender: actor/actress...
A guy referring his dick or car as a girl.
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At 2/8/10 01:01 AM, Korriken wrote:
WOOHOO! SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL! IN YOUR FACE PEYTON MANNING!
Did you notice how many times they frickin said his name? Half the time he was on the bench and they kept showing him. It's like the Saints weren't playing the Colts, they were playing Peyton Manning.
" The weather today is beautiful. and there's Peyton Manning. Yes we have several sponsors for the half time show, by the way , look its Peyton Manning"
I know I'm going to hell because that last quarter, once he realized his team was gonna lose, the look on his face made me happy in my heart.
Arrogant son of a biscuit.
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At 2/8/10 02:04 AM, SevenSeize wrote:
Did you notice how many times they frickin said his name? Half the time he was on the bench and they kept showing him. It's like the Saints weren't playing the Colts, they were playing Peyton Manning.
" The weather today is beautiful. and there's Peyton Manning. Yes we have several sponsors for the half time show, by the way , look its Peyton Manning"
yeah i know. I knew the saints were going to win.
I know I'm going to hell because that last quarter, once he realized his team was gonna lose, the look on his face made me happy in my heart.
Arrogant son of a biscuit.
Nah. the ones going to hell are the ones whining about the saints winning.
I'm not crazy, everyone else is.
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At 2/8/10 01:21 AM, fli wrote: We have conjugate verbs: run, ran, running, rans.
Actually, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Normally, we put ed on the end of things to show past tense. Learned, played, climbed, needed, etc.
But how do you get from run to ran?
Or think to thought, swim to swam?
Fly to flew, go to went, see to saw, etc?
Eventually, you learn English has more irregular than regular verbs. Or at least close to it.
Actually, the verb "to swim" brings up a nice point. Swim, present, swam, past......so where in God's name does "swum" come from for perfect?
Normally we just use auxiliaries to form other tenses. "Will" for future, "Have" for perfect. But we changed the verb itself for swim, swam, swum. Same with write, wrote, written, shrink, shrank, shrunk. All irregular.
Then we have verbs like to quit.....quit, present, quit, past, quit perfect. Cost, cut, etc. Same pattern.
Yes, we have conjugations, you can see the difference in tenses, and 3rd singular.
I, you run, he/she/it runs.
I play, he plays. I played, I am playing, etc.
It's just that the term "regular verb" in English is sorta.....funny. There are almost as many verbs that are irregular as there are that follow the grammatical rules.
Cases: we/us (plus others)
Good point.
I'm talking nominative, accusative, dative for non-pronouns though.
"Dog" is dog, whether it's the subject, direct object, or indirect object of the sentence.
Course, English gets around this ambiguity by having extremely strict word order. Otherwise Yoda talk you will.
We do have the remnants of a case system, you can see it in things like who and to whom (direct Latin descendant "M" ending for accusative case). Pronouns, like you've pointed out, show case. Nothing else does though.
Which is sorta curious that we would have it for pronouns then......
We sunk the boat.
The boat sunk us.
We and us change based on use....."boat" don't.
gender: actor/actress...
A guy referring his dick or car as a girl.
Yeah, that's true. But those are more conventional names for things. We refer to boats as girls too.
But we don't assign gender to anything else.
It just seems weird that English, a Germanic language with heavy Latin and Greek vocabulary, does not have any gender.....Despite all the languages that went into its formation having gender. Latin and Greek have gender, German has gender, all the Romance languages have gender. English? Nada.
We call ships "she", but that's a naval tradition, and an appositive grammatically. "Ship" as a noun has no gender.
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just found out that my grandpa passed a way.
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At 2/8/10 09:56 PM, LordJaric wrote: just found out that my grandpa passed a way.
Wow. Are you ok? Were you close?
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At 2/8/10 09:56 PM, LordJaric wrote: just found out that my grandpa passed a way.
*slides lj a beer*
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English is a language that has several influences.
Old English are quite many. If you compare the English between Canterbury Tales and The Green Giant-- they vary in syntax and grammar.
Yet--
Literally the people who wrote those texts were just next town over (London... Oxford.)
Languages is about expansion and isolation.
The people who spoke the Proto-European languages... went around. A subgroup spoke a germanic language. That group expanded to other places, became isolated... formed different identities. That is why some pronouns like the "the" and the "I" are rather common... or distantly related like the "ic."
And there is a strong political force to the development of any language. There is a book called "Grammar Wars" which is just so wonderfully written.
Anyways, I have a books on tape on the development of the English Language that's pretty standard. I can give you it if you send me address. But the most fascinating book I've read on this subject is called "English(es)" which gives an alternate depiction of the development of the English language. It was controversial when it came out 2004? 2006?
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well,
I've finally done with my dumbbells...
Had them for such a long time.
I can handle them easily now. 25 pounds each. Some time ago, I couldn't do my tricpes. I had to use both hands to do the tricep lift. Now, I can do single handed ones.
Can't say my arms are muscular, but they're definitely better than they used to be. They feel hard when I contract. No definition at all, but-- It's a start.
Pecs, however, are still left to be desired... but-- hey--
I got an excuse to buy new dumbbells nonetheless.
maybe a olympic bench too. I'm tired of doing pec flies on my bed.
Hey-- if I lose weight by the SF gay pride day, I may do a little naughty leather... Despite the lack of body hair, I can do the bear thing more or less.
naw....
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At 2/9/10 05:15 AM, fli wrote: ... Despite the lack of body hair, I can do the bear thing more or less.
;;;
A bald bear !!??
We are all almost hairless apes as it is !
Why do you wish to change species ?
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At 2/9/10 12:31 PM, morefngdbs wrote: Why do you wish to change species ?
It's a gay thing, more, it's best not to ask unless you want something very disturbing burned into your mind forever.
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At 2/9/10 02:16 PM, Proteas wrote:At 2/9/10 12:31 PM, morefngdbs wrote: Why do you wish to change species ?It's a gay thing, more, it's best not to ask unless you want something very disturbing burned into your mind forever.
;;;
It woud really have to be something to disturb a brain as fucked up as mine Proteas.
As for anything 'gay'
I'm pretty sure I mentioned it here awhile back about a gay co-worker who posed the question, "if you were in a dimlit bar, or other anonymous situation & someone under your table ,gave you a blow job & you were unable to see if it was a guy or a girl..would it really bother you"
Me...I've got to say, since i didn't know, & it was a BJ, I don't really care enough to freak out about it.
Sexuality is a personal thing...I like the many differences of the female anatomy over a males. Which is why personally I perfer females, but that's just me & I actually perfer them more than 1 at a time. Which could be seen as I like bi-women more than straight, I like to think this just gives me more options ;)
As put to me by the same co-worker, if two guy's are having sex...only the guy on the bottom is gay, the guy on top, is just getting laid ! ...I don't see it quite that way, but whatever floats your boat 'eh
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Well, More, it's like how the saying goes:
"In the dark, all cats are grey."
Speaking of which... I've done a short comedic play on this very subject.
Premise: Two straight college kids at a party school... they turn off their lights
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At 2/9/10 02:31 PM, morefngdbs wrote: It woud really have to be something to disturb a brain as fucked up as mine Proteas.
Well, in that case.... the kind of bear that Fli is talking about is a certain type of gay stereotype, namely, the big burly dude with lots of body hair. He's talking about combining that AND leather for a gay-pride outfit.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned it here awhile back about a gay co-worker who posed the question, "if you were in a dimlit bar, or other anonymous situation & someone under your table ,gave you a blow job & you were unable to see if it was a guy or a girl..would it really bother you"
I can't say that this was ever brought up in conversation before, more....
Me...I've got to say, since i didn't know, & it was a BJ, I don't really care enough to freak out about it.
I'd probably give myself away if I were in that situation like that, thus ending the encounter early. Not give myself away verbally or anything, but visibly, because the look on my face would be something akin to this due to the sheer enjoyment of somebody doing that to me.
Sexuality is a personal thing...I like the many differences of the female anatomy over a males. Which is why personally I perfer females, but that's just me & I actually perfer them more than 1 at a time. Which could be seen as I like bi-women more than straight, I like to think this just gives me more options ;)
I don't remember who it was, but I pissed off someone in the lounge a long time ago joking about that. They had this whole questionnaire they were working on, asking about when you discovered you were gay, and I went through and answered it. At the end I put in that I was proud to be a lesbian trapped in a man's body, and that male lesbians of the world should unite for the betterment of all. ;-D
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At 2/8/10 09:56 PM, LordJaric wrote: just found out that my grandpa passed a way.
Sorry to hear!
Best of luck for you and your family over the next couple days sir!
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My condolences for you LordJaric--
death always hit hard in a family.
lo siento.
I hope your family will find comfort within each other.
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At 2/8/10 09:56 PM, LordJaric wrote: just found out that my grandpa passed a way.
(((((for you))))))
Sorry to hear that :-(
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At 2/9/10 03:55 PM, Proteas wrote:
At the end I put in that I was proud to be a lesbian trapped in a man's body, and that male lesbians of the world should unite for the betterment of all. ;-D
;;;
As am I ~:)
Fli in my world all cats in the dark, are black, aka invisible .
LJ, nothing worse than having family pass on !
Except maybe strangers giving you advice on it...but I know ,no matter who passes on that you personally know, it sucks man.
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At 2/10/10 10:11 AM, morefngdbs wrote: Fli in my world all cats in the dark, are black, aka invisible .
It's a saying.
Similar to "In the dark, all old ladies are young." (Or it goes very similarly.)
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I made some homemade yogurt...
soooo simple.
Heat some milk. If you can comfortably dip your pinky in it, it's the right temperature. Pour in a container.
Put a teaspoon of old yogurt in it. (I had the left over of some vanilla yogurt.)
Put in a warm spot.
(I put it under my desk, and left an electric fan over night.)
I've heard you can leave this in the sun too-- just anywhere that's warm.
When it's thick, put it in the fridge.
You got some plain yogurt without presevatives (save what was in the original yogurt... but, it's so minimal.)
And it's very mellow too.
I don't really like plain yogurt, but it's just mellow enough to eat on its own. Although-- I smashed up some blueberries and added that to it.
And it doesn't cause problems to those with lactose intolerance.
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Went off the road in my apartment complex this morning. A woman came by and gave me a push. The only thing concerning me is that some of the snow that was right up against the joints of my car was yellow. There wasn't much yellow snow, and the other woman guessed that's either washer fluid (no, mine's blue) or grease. I'm gonna guess grease because I was parked at school for an hour and there was no fluid underneath the car. It just makes me wonder. The only other yellow fluid I know of is brake, but I have no problems other than sliding on the road today due to bad conditions.
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At 2/10/10 02:30 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: Went off the road in my apartment complex this morning. The only other yellow fluid I know of is brake, but I have no problems other than sliding on the road today due to bad conditions.
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Well thankfully you weren't hurt !
It is probably grease RydiaLH...but you might want to get someone to check it out. Some places, on suspensions etc. have rubber reservoirs where you put grease into a joint or bearing through the grease nipple they expand & they keep a slight pressure of grease on the joint or bearing. If you've damaged them , it won't really be noticable right away.
But it could lead to a big repair down the road .
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Well, I can take solace in the fact that two other people besides me went off the same stretch of road while I was gone. My car seems okay. I popped the hood and checked fluids, and other than wiper fluid, which I am constantly using, they look good. So at least now I'm guessing it's not a leak. Also didn't see any puddles or whatnot under my car. I do need to take it in for an oil change at the end of the month anyways.
You'd think I'd have been smart enough to ask for a ride when I initially had to stop on that road to clean my windshield again. Even when it was clean, the snow was whipping around and it wasn't plowed so I was using the orange snowpoles on the side of the road to tell where the road was. Then came a whiteout, and I felt myself slide. I tried backing up to no avail, then got out of the car and realized I was off the road.
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I lost control of my car this weekend, got stuck on an embankment I was fine, but someone else lost control on the same part of the road a little before I did, she hit the wall by the looks of it, all I was thinking while I was trying to regain control was not to hit the two cars on the side of the road.
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and thank you everyone for you condolences on my grandpa.
Common sense isn't so common anymore
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senior year of highschool my girlfriend lived 45 minites away and to get to her house i had to take a pretty neglected road and during snow storms my 96 sable with bald tires would wind up sideways at least 3 times. find an empty parking lot and get a feel for how it handles while sliding/spinning.




