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so the computer attached to the printer broke down, i need to print my stats assignment. no problem, the printer has memory stick ports. oh wait, whats this; the printer only recognizes image files.

At 11/25/08 01:35 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Damnit. I don't know whether or not to crawl up your ass with a rant now!

I didn't know they had blocks at Awesome, Inc.

well, lets just say, you'd probably be having a nice conversation with my prostate if you were able to see the video

At 11/25/08 02:06 PM, SolInvictus wrote: so the computer attached to the printer broke down, i need to print my stats assignment. no problem, the printer has memory stick ports. oh wait, whats this; the printer only recognizes image files.

That's easy to do, just make a screen shot of each page, crop it to look like a normal word page...and bam, you're good to go.

At 11/25/08 01:06 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Oh man, fuck YOU. I'm playing drums on a DVD with Mad Man Pondo you ass. He threw my buddy Tony Myers off a balcony. You're just mad that it's not wrestling with broken glass and barbed wire anymore. You probably even MISS that "drama" bullshit the WWE shoves down our throat because the FCC won't let'em show blood anymore.

I'm not actually big on blood and guts like Ian Rotten and others promote. I think that's kind of been played out and over exposed at this point.

Fucking pretty boy piece of shit faggot wrestlers they hire over there. Notice how Brock Lesner went UFC the first chance he got? YEAH.

Oh, I know EXACTLY why Brock left. Brock left because they gave him far too much too fast, and he has a massive ego to go along with his massive size. When they told him that after his match with Goldberg at Mania 20 he'd be working a program with The Undertaker instead of getting the title right back he said "oh, you know what? I've always had this dream to play football...even though I only played in high school", then when he couldn't make the Minnesota Vikings main team (he made the practice squad) he didn't wanna do that either. If Brock drops that title in UFC and can't immediately get it back I can pretty much guarantee he'll quit that to. He's a fucking fame seeker that will always take his ball and go home if he isn't center of attention in whatever he does. Brock Lesnar is a terrible example of saying "here's a talent that left cause WWE is full of shit these days" :)

Everyone knows McMann or whatever his name is is a closet queer. And by "closet" I mean FUCKING FLAMER. Why do you think fucking Ted Turner beat the WWE's ASS when people still cared about wrestling? Because the old gaurd weren't PRETTY enough for Mcmann's faggot ass, but they had twice the talent thier left nuts than Vince's guys had in their whole fucking BODY.

They beat WWE's ass because they simulated a WWF vs. WCW war. Hulk Hogan was a great heel, and Kevin Nash actually showed personality. Scott Hall? Yeah...I really wonder what the hell the ICP is thinking featuring Scott Hall on their shows. Least I've never heard of them being bad promoters in terms of paying and such.

If Vince McFAG didn't pressure Chris Benoit into jacking steroids into his arm with a fucking gas pump, he'd probably still be alive, let alone fucking Owen Hart or the countless other guys he's killed with his negligent bullshit. I wouldn't trust that guy to manage a fucking DENNY'S, let alone a pro wrestling ring. The fucker's too busy trying to be a fucking wrestler himself to bother worrying about the health and safety of his people!

This I can't argue, except for maybe Benoit. Benoit didn't do what he did because of steroids, he did it because of very obvious psychological problems that we don't know how they developed (concussions? The tragic loss of his friend Eddie Guerrero? Something we don't know about?), but not roids. The roids just would have ultimately killed him, because we know steroids more then likely contributed to Eddie Guerrero's death. Vince never directly pressures his guys to jack up (but the way he's traditionally built his business sure leads guys to believe they need to if they want to be stars) and their wellness test has been cleaning things up. There's no excuse for Owen Hart or many of the other deaths on his watch, but that's true of a lot of promoters, they absolutely have never cared about the health of the talent because they've built their business on just exploiting these guys as long as they can until they move on to the next guy and the cycle continues.

That's right. I fucking said it. Rolling around in thumbtacks, barbedwire and broken glass is SAFER than trusting your career to a dickhole like Vince. Why do you think all his fucking talent is always "leaving for japan" anyways? In japan, ALL THEY DO is hardcore shit!

Untrue, Japan traditionally has featured much better technical wrestling and payoffs have traditionally been good (though the Japanese business has contracted too). There are guys who have become legends in Japan and are unknown in the states because Japan almost treats it's wrestling like a sport traditionally. Lots of guys go to Japan so they can become better workers and move from a situation where they're working B-shows or losing all the time on WWE so they can then come back with more skill, and a better negotiating position. Also that is not safer, and a lot of the problems in Vince's WWE occur elsewhere in the business, and have since the beginning of the business, it's just that because Vince is the biggest, he's the one your always going to hear about. But google the Von Erichs sometime and you'll see a whole family of wrestlers that died, and died because of issues they had long before Vince McMahon ever signed up Kerry.

Vince isn't a saint, he's a pretty bad guy, but to act like he's the devil and he invented all the issues in the business, or guys like Jake Roberts are destroyed because of their association with Vince McMahon, it's just not the case to my mind. Vince is guilty of not caring, bad decision making, and turning a blind eye in the past. The guys themselves are the ones that fed their demons with substances they abused and ultimately led to their deaths.

At 11/24/08 05:39 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:
BTW, I'm still whoring out the DAG. You should join our forums, cuz, well, there really aren't any lame DAGers like their are lame NGers.

Are you sure that I'm lame enough?

At 11/25/08 12:28 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 11/25/08 11:15 AM, Malachy wrote: I feel this is probably a relevant thread for the poli folks.

Goodbye to bad rubbish.

Soooo, epic.
But... I feel like Cellar is like Freddy Krueger.
He's just going to come back next time, but lamer than ever before-- over, and over, and over again...

At 11/25/08 01:16 PM, Malachy wrote: Japan is so fucking hardcore.

It's like some amazing 21st-century Kabuki.

At 11/25/08 04:58 PM, fli wrote:
But... I feel like Cellar is like Freddy Krueger.
He's just going to come back next time, but lamer than ever before-- over, and over, and over again...

Am I the only one who totally could have seen them casting John Lequeizamo in the remake?

At 11/25/08 11:15 AM, Malachy wrote: I feel this is probably a relevant thread for the poli folks.

Do you think that there will be less nation vs. nation threads because most of them were created to flamebait cellardoor.

At 11/25/08 06:10 PM, ThePretenders wrote:

At 11/25/08 11:15 AM, Malachy wrote: I feel this is probably a relevant thread for the poli folks.

Do you think that there will be less nation vs. nation threads because most of them were created to flamebait cellardoor?

Fixed, and those nation vs. nation threads sucked.

At 11/25/08 06:18 PM, fli wrote:

Please... no talk of the remake.
My heart is broken enough...

Sorry, that was just some left over bitterness when avie didn't support my complaining baout the friday the thirteenth remake. Basically the stuntman turned actor explained that this Jason was leaner and faster because someone living off the land wouldn't be big and well fed. Are woodsmen known as scrawny people? Fucking seriously.

At 11/25/08 06:10 PM, ThePretenders wrote: Do you think that there will be less nation vs. nation threads because most of them were created to flamebait cellardoor.

I like that the people that waste time and effort following Cellar to flame him and fight with him have lost their target and he won't be around either to start with them, or be a tempting target. It's just going to make things quieter around here.

At 11/25/08 06:26 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I like that the people that waste time and effort following Cellar to flame him and fight with him have lost their target and he won't be around either to start with them, or be a tempting target. It's just going to make things quieter around here.

Yeah, he had that presence. Now it will be gone and the trolls will find something else to do.

At 11/25/08 06:25 PM, stafffighter wrote: Sorry, that was just some left over bitterness when avie didn't support my complaining baout the friday the thirteenth remake. Basically the stuntman turned actor explained that this Jason was leaner and faster because someone living off the land wouldn't be big and well fed. Are woodsmen known as scrawny people? Fucking seriously.

Well...
If you're sleeping under a lake... you woul be bloated.
and your muscles would probably be atrophied.

But... seriously, there are no physics or reality to these movies. Hulk jumps down on a cement, and waves of pavement ripple around him. Maybe pavement would crack, but... it wouldn't ripple. A exceedingly retarded kid grows up to be pretty a clever and calculative killer. A man who runs so fast that he leaves a blury trial behind him that's several feet long...

I don't think it would matter if Jason is big and muscled versus sinwey and fast... so many aspects of reality are so unrealistic that it just wouldn't matter.

I mean, a kid who doesn't know how to swim... who is so mentally incapicitated that he can't talk and needs the constant supervision of his mother... But he grows up to be a man with pretty damn good coordination, and is calculative enough to know how to hunt humans.

Meh--

Personally, I never really enjoyed Jason. I did, however, like "Jason's Dead" when I saw that in the 6th or 7th grade. And I've head people say that they don't believe it's a Jason film...

At 11/25/08 07:21 PM, fli wrote:

I mean, a kid who doesn't know how to swim... who is so mentally incapicitated that he can't talk and needs the constant supervision of his mother... But he grows up to be a man with pretty damn good coordination, and is calculative enough to know how to hunt humans.

Lots of people don't know how to swim. I never learned how to ride a bike. If he needed the constant supervision of his mother he wouldn't have been at camp in the first place. And the thing is, people assume we're a lot harder to hunt than other animals, but how quantifiable is this? In the woods without any modern resources, me vs. an elk, put your money on the elk. Plus he had spend his entire adult life hunting and acclimating himself to that enviroment.
Yes overthinking, it's what I do.

Meh--

Personally, I never really enjoyed Jason. I did, however, like "Jason's Dead" when I saw that in the 6th or 7th grade. And I've head people say that they don't believe it's a Jason film...

Yeah, when Jason is reduced to a virus, it's like, no. The best way I've heard Jason explained is that he's a guided missle. He's a force that is going to make his way to the target.
I like Jason vs. Freddy because they just had fun with the concept. It wasen't so much scary as it was an action flick with serial killers. The women with their "no one looks like that in highschool" bodies didn't hurt either.

At 11/25/08 07:33 PM, stafffighter wrote: I never learned how to ride a bike.

I am shocked... beyond belief.
Dude... I'm hearing Jason laughing at you...

Yeah, when Jason is reduced to a virus, it's like, no. The best way I've heard Jason explained is that he's a guided missle. He's a force that is going to make his way to the target.
I like Jason vs. Freddy because they just had fun with the concept. It wasen't so much scary as it was an action flick with serial killers. The women with their "no one looks like that in highschool" bodies didn't hurt either.

I really really really wanted Freddy to win...
And, wtf-- the stoner didn't get killed???

I really enjoyed all the NOES-- but, I wished Freddy didn't become a comedian. The dumbest Freddy moment had to be was Freddy's Dead, when he was riding on the broomstick and he was acting like the Wicked Witch of the West...

At 11/25/08 07:47 PM, fli wrote:

At 11/25/08 07:33 PM, stafffighter wrote: I never learned how to ride a bike.

I am shocked... beyond belief.
Dude... I'm hearing Jason laughing at you...

Ch Ch Ch, Ha Ha Ha. Dude, if you hear Jason, RUN!. And don't stop for a shower. That only worked once and that woman was a trained combat vetren

And, wtf-- the stoner didn't get killed???

Neither did the black girl. Actually black girls fair a lot better than black guys in horror movies.

I really enjoyed all the NOES-- but, I wished Freddy didn't become a comedian. The dumbest Freddy moment had to be was Freddy's Dead, when he was riding on the broomstick and he was acting like the Wicked Witch of the West...

What did you think of the new nightmare? It was an interesting concept and I think brought him closer to what he was intended to be.

At 11/25/08 07:55 PM, stafffighter wrote: Neither did the black girl. Actually black girls fair a lot better than black guys in horror movies.

No... she got killed. I think. It's been years since I saw that film.
Wasn't she dissing Freddy in a ghetto manner, and Jason falcon punched her to a tree??? The nerd loved her, I think...

What did you think of the new nightmare? It was an interesting concept and I think brought him closer to what he was intended to be.

I liked New Nightmare, but I don't consider it as a freddy film. But, that's how it was intended. As for the new Freddy look... it wasn't as scary or iconic as the striped sweater...

At 11/25/08 07:55 PM, stafffighter wrote: Ch Ch Ch, Ha Ha Ha. Dude, if you hear Jason, RUN!. And don't stop for a shower. That only worked once and that woman was a trained combat vetren

I don't remember that one... but still, I don't really watch Jason.
I am, however, rewatching the first 3 Hellraiser series... I just finish the novella I stumbled on my computer, which is AWSOME. (I was naughty back then... downloaded it from napster when it came out years and years ago.)

Still...
I'm going to buy the novella for you know... good faith, or whatever.

Ever though about trying out a bike again?
I learned to swim pretty late in life... I was 15 when I learned well enough to go on the deep end.

at summer camp I was consistently in a low level swimming group not because I couldn't handle the deep end, but because I didn't know how to do all the different strokes. I could swim across the fucking lake, but I couldn't fucking do that breast stroke crap

At 11/25/08 08:16 PM, fli wrote:

Ever though about trying out a bike again?
I learned to swim pretty late in life... I was 15 when I learned well enough to go on the deep end.

It occures to me sometimes but I don't see the practicality. I've never been mr. outdoors.

At 11/25/08 08:16 PM, fli wrote:

Ever though about trying out a bike again?
I learned to swim pretty late in life... I was 15 when I learned well enough to go on the deep end.

Talking about diving in head first into the deep end.

That was bad, but I couldn't resist.

Anyways, more stories in the pipes. Still working on them.

At 11/25/08 08:47 PM, stafffighter wrote: It occures to me sometimes but I don't see the practicality. I've never been mr. outdoors.

But it's fun...
I mean, I'm starting to hang out with my 15 year old cousin a little bit more these days (if you remember, the spoiled brat.)

And the funnest thing we've been doing is just bike around everywhere. Even if it's to the library... the fact you're out doors and with your friends is just fun. Heck,

Maybe I've grown up and I've stopped doing young things... but even biking with your friends around the city is something you can't grow out of. The most fun I've had recently was when we were doing, "Know how you're gay" ala 40-Year-Old virgin, while biking. He told one so good, that I almost crossed a street without looking both way.

Oh...
update on my little cousin who's not so little anymore. (He's 15.)
He's out of special ed. He's actually doing pretty good. He's read his first major book... The Great Gatsby. Although I hated Great Gatsby, but I'm proud that he's actually read a book. And-- he's in love with this girl. She's going to visit her for Thanksgiving, and I'm feeling really proud for him.

We're still working out a few of these kinks, but I think he's turned around really good.

At 11/25/08 04:45 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:
Are you sure that I'm lame enough?

I dunno. I got in alright, I think someone even COMPLEMENTED my arrival.....

If I got in, meh....you should be fine.....

Thing is I can not be doing more forum things. Like I really do want to start animating, working, not being lazy, etc. I don't see how taking another forum under my daily activities would be beneficial.

At 11/25/08 10:54 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Thing is I can not be doing more forum things. Like I really do want to start animating, working, not being lazy, etc. I don't see how taking another forum under my daily activities would be beneficial.

If you have the ability to log in for 20 minutes a week and make one post you'll fit in fine.

From what I've seen, it's more Lounge-like anways.

At 11/24/08 11:22 PM, Rideo wrote: They make hip hop, hip hop is considered music, they are then by definition musicians.

I was going by what they actually do; in my mind, "musician" denotes the ability to play an instrument (drums, bass, guitar, keyboard). Most rap artists are vocalists who buy beats to rap over from musicians they know.

But bad ones.

In what way?

I've heard people bash ICP for their music, but I've as yet to get a solid answer as to why yet.

At 11/25/08 01:30 AM, fli wrote: I like the Insane Clown Posse...

O_o;

You're the LAST person on earth I would have thought to be an ICP fan.

Got a favorite song, or album?

At 11/25/08 08:51 AM, LazyDrunk wrote: I pitched in to buy my dad a nice knife set, a Messermeister 17pc. carry-along, a while back and wow.. they've got great steel in their knives.

I checked out their website, and once they started talking about Solingen, Germany, I started drooling. Solingen steel is some of the finest steel you can get your hands on, period. Right up there with traditional Damascus steel, in my opinion.

Lucky bastard.

At 11/25/08 01:06 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: That's right. I fucking said it. Rolling around in thumbtacks, barbedwire and broken glass is SAFER than trusting your career to a dickhole like Vince. Why do you think all his fucking talent is always "leaving for japan" anyways? In japan, ALL THEY DO is hardcore shit!

I'll tell you what else is interesting to watch; backyard wrestling. I was on 4chan one night and somebody sent me this youtube link of "greatest hits" from a particular branch of backyard wrestling. First opening scene; it shows one guy throwing another into a truck bed FILLED with glass light bulb tubes.

The video was 5 minutes long, and I cringed the whole way through.

Especially when the one dude severed the artery in the crook of his elbow and blood started flying....

At 11/25/08 06:25 PM, stafffighter wrote: Basically the stuntman turned actor explained that this Jason was leaner and faster because someone living off the land wouldn't be big and well fed. Are woodsmen known as scrawny people?

Well, by "woodsmen" do you mean "survivalist" or "lumberjack?"

Because if they're not going to tie the whole demonic nature of Jason's origin into this movie and instead make him a living being, then I doubt someone who was mentally retarded is going to grow up to be the strapping 6'4" Kane Hodder style Jason we're all familiar with. He'd probably be more to the whole scrawny and lean stereotype that people would associate with someone who's subsisting on the land.

At 11/25/08 07:47 PM, fli wrote: And, wtf-- the stoner didn't get killed???

If I remember right, Jason chopped the stoner in half right after the stoner -- possessed by Freddy -- shot Jason full of elephant tranquilizers.

At 11/25/08 11:56 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 11/25/08 01:30 AM, fli wrote: I like the Insane Clown Posse...

O_o;

You're the LAST person on earth I would have thought to be an ICP fan.

Got a favorite song, or album?

I don't have a favorite... when it's on, I hear it...

My friend's brother, Franky, was a huge ICP fan back when they were underground and not main streamed, and did a few things for them (I'm not sure what.) But I got to meet one of the guys back in 1994 when he was at my friend's house. Who? I can't remember... it was one of the guys. This is before they actually "made it big."

And I actually have a demo tape some where in this house, probably with songs that others haven't heard... or released on different times.

I even have an unreleased demo tape of Bone-Thugs-in-Harmony... somewhere in this house (I barrowed this from Franky... never returned it.) Jesus... last time I saw it was in 2002 when I was doing some house cleaning.

During March, I've even dated a guy Eli from Akron, Ohio. His cousin was Bizzy Bone... what a pair we made... He had his accent... I had my accent. It was always, "Huh? What did you say???"

To be truthful about ICP, I didn't always like them. I only pretended to like them when I was like... 12 or 13, because Eric, my friend at the time, liked them. And it was the cool thing to do back in 1993/94. But with time, I sort of made an exception to them. They hold a more sentimental place in my heart than most other people, I think...

At 11/25/08 10:54 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Thing is I can not be doing more forum things. Like I really do want to start animating, working, not being lazy, etc. I don't see how taking another forum under my daily activities would be beneficial.

Funk's a muso. I'm a coder. Most of us have shared asperations of some form or other, such as writing, web production, etc. We could use an animator too yanno.

At 11/25/08 04:29 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Oh, I know EXACTLY why Brock left. Brock left because they gave him far too much too fast, and he has a massive ego to go along with his massive size. When they told him that after his match with Goldberg at Mania 20 he'd be working a program with The Undertaker instead of getting the title right back he said "oh, you know what? I've always had this dream to play football...even though I only played in high school", then when he couldn't make the Minnesota Vikings main team (he made the practice squad) he didn't wanna do that either.

The man is a creature. He's huge. His ego should fit his body, just like how skinny pencil-dick nerds' ego's are fed by their pocket protectors. The man wrestled at an elite level, earned money in the foremost "wrestling" organization and tried his stature at football... in his adoptive hometown. I haven't met him recently, but early in his career he was EXTREMELY down to earth, and carried himself well in public.

I went to see Brock's home finale collegiate match, the only match he lost that year, and got to see him bawl his eyes out after failing to live up to the hype. Have you ever been successful, avie? Brock's ego is not something you should fault.

If Brock drops that title in UFC and can't immediately get it back I can pretty much guarantee he'll quit that to. He's a fucking fame seeker that will always take his ball and go home if he isn't center of attention in whatever he does. Brock Lesnar is a terrible example of saying "here's a talent that left cause WWE is full of shit these days" :)

The WWE is shit you fingerpuppet. Dropping the "F" was the fucking end. Period.

I'll take your bet that he quits, too. Name your price, up to and including your firstborn.

This I can't argue, except for maybe Benoit. Benoit didn't do what he did because of steroids, he did it because of very obvious psychological problems that we don't know how they developed (concussions? The tragic loss of his friend Eddie Guerrero? Something we don't know about?), but not roids.

I actually caught a segment of his fight surfing channels the night before he whacked his family. He was doing great, winning and stuff, then the predictable happened and he was smashed with a chair from behind and pinned.

Roids can trigger temporary insanity, and I'd been under the impression Benoit was relatively docile when it came to his family. A psycho, no doubt, but if the juice didn't tip the camel, who really cares?

they absolutely have never cared about the health of the talent because they've built their business on just exploiting these guys as long as they can until they move on to the next guy and the cycle continues.

And that's where Brock and the UFC differ. Owen Hart's death actually curbed my WCW/WWF watching back in the day. I'd always think Sting was gunna fall from the rafters during every show.

At 11/25/08 04:29 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
I'm not actually big on blood and guts like Ian Rotten and others promote. I think that's kind of been played out and over exposed at this point.

NEVAR. Until I see a guy die, get resuscitated, have a new robot body built, come back, and whoop a motherfuckers ass, it will NEVER be played out. It's just one of those things I never lose my fascination for.

Oh, I know EXACTLY why Brock left. Brock Lesnar is a terrible example of saying "here's a talent that left cause WWE is full of shit these days" :)

He learned it from that damn Jew Goldberg, you know that, right? Goldberg was always SO concious of his "career" you could tell he didn't just love the sport of it. Besides, Brock in the UFC is just a gimmick in the end. Eventually the UFC will pull one of it's REAL champions from the Pride merger like Sakuraba and execute his ass. UFC fighters aren't in the same league as the guys from Pride, and everyone who's ever watched Pride knows it.

They beat WWE's ass because they simulated a WWF vs. WCW war. Hulk Hogan was a great heel, and Kevin Nash actually showed personality. Scott Hall? Yeah...I really wonder what the hell the ICP is thinking featuring Scott Hall on their shows. Least I've never heard of them being bad promoters in terms of paying and such.

watwatwat!? Scott Hall was fucking wrestling MAGIC. DRUNKEN BOXING!!! Him, Diamond Dallas Page, argh what was his name... ECW... Sandman I think it was? Iceman? But seriously, I liked Hall a bit MORE than Nash, BECAUSE of the drunkeness, fake or otherwise. There's just something NATURAL about a guy stumbling around the ring while at the same time managing to get all his moves off... it's the whole "getting it by the skin of your teeth" thing that makes it worth watching! If I wanted to see a fucking ballet, I wouldn't have shown up to a wrestling show!

This I can't argue, except for maybe Benoit. There's no excuse for Owen Hart or many of the other deaths on his watch, but that's true of a lot of promoters, they absolutely have never cared about the health of the talent because they've built their business on just exploiting these guys as long as they can until they move on to the next guy and the cycle continues.

I disagree. After the WWE, Benoit CHANGED, and NOT for the better. He damn near doubled in size, almost overnight. All of a sudden, he had all these stupid emotions that he was too professional for in the WCW. Plus, and this is the clincher HE DEVELOPED A LARGE PAD OF MUSCLE ON HIS FOREHEAD. What does this mean? It means that his muscle mass was increasing INDEPENDENT of feasible exercise. There's no "forehead press"! Big forehead muscle=massive steroid use ala Big Papa Pump and all that nonsense.

Untrue, Japan traditionally has featured much better technical wrestling and payoffs have traditionally been good (though the Japanese business has contracted too). But google the Von Erichs sometime and you'll see a whole family of wrestlers that died, and died because of issues they had long before Vince McMahon ever signed up Kerry.

Yeah, but Japan also has an ANCIENT history of legal blood sports. The japanese fans are just too smart for all the bullshit american fans will put up with. In japan, you fucking deliver, or you're worth LESS than shit. And I don't care HOW big of a scumbag Von Erichs was, that's no excuse for Vince.

Vince isn't a saint, he's a pretty bad guy, but to act like he's the devil. The guys themselves are the ones that fed their demons with substances they abused and ultimately led to their deaths.

Whatever. Motherfuckers damn near WERE selling their souls to Vince with "exclusive development deals" only to end up black balled from every other organization than the WWE because of it. I PERSONALLY know a guy who had to build his own organization from the GROUND UP because of that dickwad. Memphis is wrestling Tennessee, in the great words of Andy Kaufman. We aren't just fans... you can run into wrestlers at the local Piggly Wiggly like Koko Beware any given saturday in this town. So you see, I'm not just talking about shit I read in an insider wrestling fan mag; I'm talking about sitting around, drinking beer with my buddies, and watch a guy like Tony try and put a brave face on how Vince McFAG screwed him, and pretend it was all good because he's too upstanding of a guy to say it like it is.

You have to remember, I was watching on local TV the first time Kurt Angle stepped in a pro-ring in front of a crowd. Sid Vicious STILL hangs around this town! Memphis is where wrestlers are born, and it's where they die, too. Why do you think guys like Quentin Jackson came up to DOMINATE their sports? Because Memphis is a violent, bloodthirsty place, and to us, pro wrestling seems like a pretty normal thing. Our normal citizens are all wrestlers just under the skin; it's always a bit of culture shock when I leave here, because that's just not the case in other cities.