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I was just looking at the politcs page and all of a sudden the ng face popped and yelled BLAAAAAHHH WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT.
Scared the bejesus out of me.

At 5/6/08 11:02 PM, therealsylvos wrote: I was just looking at the politcs page and all of a sudden the ng face popped and yelled BLAAAAAHHH WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT.
Scared the bejesus out of me.

hahahah

I love that! I wish somebody had a list of all of the easter eggs put into the redesign.

At 5/6/08 10:56 PM, therealsylvos wrote: I recently took the jung-myers-briggs personality test, and I am now addicted to finding out what people come up as.
I came up as INTJ.

I always come up as INTP, but borderline I and E. Argumentative, absent-minded professor type.

At 5/6/08 11:15 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote:

At 5/6/08 10:56 PM, therealsylvos wrote: I recently took the jung-myers-briggs personality test, and I am now addicted to finding out what people come up as.
I came up as INTJ.

I always come up as INTP, but borderline I and E. Argumentative, absent-minded professor type.

Hm. The first time I took it, it was a smaller test, only like 24 questions. I came up INTP with 1%P, then I took it there a couple weeks later on this site and got 11% J.
The srtongest one I had was "I". Somewhere in the high 80's % I think.

I'm an infp, apparently

At 5/6/08 11:14 PM, Malachy wrote:
hahahah

I love that! I wish somebody had a list of all of the easter eggs put into the redesign.

Oh shit, you mean theres more?
I think I'm gonna start to do all my browsing with my mute button on.

At 5/6/08 05:46 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: ARGH! WOMEN!

</rant>

What might be happening is that she doesn't want you when she gets the impression that you're interested in her. People want what they don't have, and it's more of an accomplishment to have someone who doesn't really want you.

Oh also, INTJ. Reading the description, I already knew this in general.

At 5/6/08 10:56 PM, therealsylvos wrote: I recently took the jung-myers-briggs personality test, and I am now addicted to finding out what people come up as.
I came up as INTJ.
So please tkae the test here and post your results.

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
67 88 50 11

* distinctively expressed introvert
* very expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* slightly expressed judging personality

Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Judging
by Marina Margaret Heiss

Profile: INTJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 27 Feb 2005

To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

In the broadest terms, what INTJs "do" tends to be what they "know". Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to "work at" a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression. This ability can then be honed and directed by consistent, repeated efforts to understand and support those they care about, and those relationships which ultimately do become established with an INTJ tend to be characterized by their robustness, stability, and good communications.

Functional Analysis
by Joe Butt

lol

Introverted iNtuition

INTJs are idea people. Anything is possible; everything is negotiable. Whatever the outer circumstances, INTJs are ever perceiving inner pattern-forms and using real-world materials to operationalize them. Others may see what is and wonder why; INTJs see what might be and say "Why not?!" Paradoxes, antinomies, and other contradictory phenomena aptly express these intuitors' amusement at those whom they feel may be taking a particular view of reality too seriously. INTJs enjoy developing unique solutions to complex problems.

That's actually right on... pardon the huge cut/paste... the bolded parts are the ones that really stick out to me... about myself... though in all honesty, I may be the worst person to judge how I seem to others.

I also took one of those tests which determines if you're left or right brained, and visual or aural... ended up dead center in the right/left continuum and almost completely visual... which seems slightly odd for a musician... though the right/left thing works since I am also heavily into the maths and sciences.

I guess I just think weird...

At 5/6/08 10:56 PM, therealsylvos wrote: I recently took the jung-myers-briggs personality test, and I am now addicted to finding out what people come up as.

I showed up as an ISTJ.
The first analysis with the two authors seemed to fit me well.

Heh.

Man, we're all a bunch of cocks.

I always get ISTJ, every time I take that test.

Numbers are different, but the result's the same.

And it's still pretty dead on too. Especially punctuality, and frustration at the inconsistency of others in commitments. I'm always aloof, shit it probably shows right through the computer screen.

For your ease, the description:

Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
by Joe Butt

Profile: ISTJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 27 Feb 2005

"It is in keeping with tradition throughout our history that I should express simply and directly the opinions which I hold concerning some of the matters of present importance." --Herbert Hoover, Inaugural Address, Monday, March 4, 1929.

ISTJs are often called inspectors. They have a keen sense of right and wrong, especially in their area of interest and/or responsibility. They are noted for devotion to duty. Punctuality is a watchword of the ISTJ. The secretary, clerk, or business(wo)man by whom others set their clocks is likely to be an ISTJ.

As do other Introverted Thinkers, ISTJs often give the initial impression of being aloof and perhaps somewhat cold. Effusive expression of emotional warmth is not something that ISTJs do without considerable energy loss.

ISTJs are most at home with "just the facts, Ma'am." They seem to perform at highest efficiency when employing a step-by-step approach. Once a new procedure has proven itself (i.e., has been shown "to work,") the ISTJ can be depended upon to carry it through, even at the expense of their own health.

ISTJs are easily frustrated by the inconsistencies of others, especially when the second parties don't keep their commitments. But they usually keep their feelings to themselves unless they are asked. And when asked, they don't mince words. Truth wins out over tact. The grim determination of the ISTJ vindicates itself in officiation of sports events, judiciary functions, or an other situation which requires making tough calls and sticking to them.

His SJ orientation draws the ISTJ into the service of established institutions. Home, social clubs, government, schools, the military, churches -- these are the bastions of the SJ. "We've always done it this way" is often reason enough for many ISTJs. Threats to time-honored traditions or established organizations (e.g., a "run" on the bank) are the undoing of SJs, and are to be fought at all costs.

Functional Analysis
Introverted Sensing

Si is oriented toward the world of forms, essences, generics. Time is such a form, a quantifiable essense of exactitude, the standard to which external events are held. For both of the IS_J types, the sense of propriety comes from the clear definition of these internal forms. An apple "should" have certain qualities, against which all apples are evaluated. A "proper" chair has four legs, (and other qualities this poor INTP can only guess). Jung viewed introverted sensing as something of an oxymoron, in that the natural direction of senses is outward toward the object, rather than inward and away from it. One has the sense that Introverted Sensors are drawn more to the measure of the concept of the perceived object than to the experience of that perception.
Extraverted Thinking

The moderation of the Te function serves to socialize the expression of these forms. When the Si function is ready to relinquish the data, Te may speak. Otherwise, silence is golden. ISTJs seem to have a few favorite forms (the tried and true) which may serve for most occasions. My ISTJ dad woke me every morning with the same phrase for more years than I care to remember. Asked, "How are you?" he answered with the same stock phrase. ("As well as my age and habits will permit" was used for about two decades.) "It's a good form, a sound form--it's the form for me."
Introverted Feeling

Since Fi is turned inward, it is rarely expressed. Perhaps this enables the ISTJ to resolutely accept that "we are all doomed." When told that Lazarus had died, Thomas said, "Let us go and die with him." (He could just as well have said something like, "I knew this was bound to happen sooner or later.") Only in times of great distress is the Introverted Feeling expressed (as I witnessed in my dad when a neighbor's son was killed in a hunting accident). Otherwise, feeling is inferred, or expressed nonverbally, through eye contact, or an encouraging smile.
Extraverted iNtuition

The Ne function of an ISTJ does not serve her very well. It needs a lot of help. She was surprised, for example, to find that someone she had talked with only by phone had red hair, because she "didn't usually like" people with red hair! This inferior Ne seems to be a major source of, and a natural breeding ground for, stereotypes. Failure of the banking system is but one bogeyman which arises from the fear which feeds on the ISTJ's mistrust of real world possibilities. The shadow inhabiting the inferior Ne strikes at the precious forms and standards in the heart of the dominant Si function.
Famous ISTJs:

Thomas (Christ's disciple)

U.S. Presidents:
George Washington
Andrew Johnson
Benjamin Harrison
Herbert Hoover
George H. W. Bush

Paul Coverdale (U.S. Senator, R-GA)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee (U.S. Olympic athlete)
Evander Holyfield, heavyweight boxing champion
Fictional ISTJs:

Joe Friday
Mr. Martin (hero of James Thurber's Sitting in the Catbird Seat)
Eeyore (Winnie the Pooh)
Fred Mertz (I Love Lucy)
Puddleglum, the marshwiggle (Chronicles of Narnia) Cliff (Cheers)

At 5/7/08 12:11 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 5/6/08 05:46 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: ARGH! WOMEN!

</rant>

What might be happening is that she doesn't want you when she gets the impression that you're interested in her. People want what they don't have, and it's more of an accomplishment to have someone who doesn't really want you.

So essentially the minute i show any interest she's gonna decide that she doesn't want me anymore? Wonderful...

Heres hoping Proteas' analysis was more accurate and she was just trying to work it out in her head and she is isn't doing this borderline stupid hard to get thing.

Also I got INFG on that personality test thing. apparently I'm an opinionated activist with good communication skills and a tendency to be rather idealistic. Sounds about right really.

"I'm a Lesbian." "No, I'M a Lesbian!!!"

It took them 2500 years to think of that? God, who next - the population of Thespiae?!?

At 5/7/08 01:59 AM, Ravariel wrote: Heh.

Man, we're all a bunch of cocks.

I'd forgotten about the bystander effect, but Asch Zimbardo and Milgram I cite frequently. Fact is, as much as y'all would like to think you're better, faster, smarter, and more noble than all the bad people in the world, given the right circumstances (which are scary in their ease to set up) you'd throw people in a gas chamber just like the rest of us.

Cynical, pessimistic, but remarkably accurate.

Take THAT Edward Gibbon!

At 5/7/08 10:21 AM, D2Kvirus wrote: "I'm a Lesbian." "No, I'M a Lesbian!!!"

It took them 2500 years to think of that? God, who next - the population of Thespiae?!?

Only if Tom Cruise starts referring to himself as a thespian.....

At 5/5/08 05:56 PM, Malachy wrote: A kid in my group dropped out of school today.

now we're down to 3 members, when every other group has 5.

Ugh, group work. I once had a lab partner who hadn't yet realized that he had failed a prerequisite for the course we were taking and wasn't actually enrolled in it.

my fiancee went to the ER today because her back has been bothering her. she strained a back muscle and was given ibuprofen and vicodin.

That's rough. I find that medical problems of someone you love are often worse than having the medical problems yourself.

How much longer do you think this thread will last? Place your bets!

ISTP

Whoa.

;

At 5/7/08 01:35 PM, Elfer wrote: Ugh, group work. I once had a lab partner who hadn't yet realized that he had failed a prerequisite for the course we were taking and wasn't actually enrolled in it.

I personally enjoy working alone in labs. Less stuff somebody else can fuck up. But apparently college has some social aspect that they want students to experience...

That's rough. I find that medical problems of someone you love are often worse than having the medical problems yourself.

The medicine is making her more miserable than the pain had. I don't see why the doctor prescribed such strong meds when she hadn't even tried over the counter ones yet.

but she can just chop one of those ibuprofens in half

At 5/7/08 04:01 PM, Malachy wrote: I personally enjoy working alone in labs. Less stuff somebody else can fuck up. But apparently college has some social aspect that they want students to experience...

Meh, sometimes labs have more stuff to do than one person can get done in three hours. At least this semester, we did labs individually when they were short.

The medicine is making her more miserable than the pain had. I don't see why the doctor prescribed such strong meds when she hadn't even tried over the counter ones yet.

but she can just chop one of those ibuprofens in half

Yeah, there shouldn't be any "bad" side effects if she stays away from the vicodins for the most part. They've really started to hand that shit out like candy these days.

I just lost The Game.

;

At 5/7/08 10:21 AM, D2Kvirus wrote: "I'm a Lesbian." "No, I'M a Lesbian!!!"

It took them 2500 years to think of that? God, who next - the population of Thespiae?!?

why can't they refer to themselves as lesbans? or lesboans?

At 5/7/08 06:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: why can't they refer to themselves as lesbans? or lesboans?

Um, because they were called that first?

YOUR TYPE
E N T J
Strength of the preferences %
1 50 12 1

The Portait of the Fieldmarshal (ENTJ)

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is marshalling or situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in Fieldmarshals. As this kind of role is practiced some contingency organizing is necessary, so that the second suit of the Fieldmarshal's intellect is devising contingency plans. Structural and functional engineering, though practiced in some degree in the course of organizational operations, tend to be not nearly as well developed and are soon outstripped by the rapidly growing skills in organizing. But it must be said that any kind of strategic exercize tends to bring added strength to engineering as well as organizing skills.

As the organizing capabilities the Fieldmarshal increase so does their desire to let others know about whatever has come of their organizational efforts. So they tend to take up a directive role in their social exchanges. On the other hand they have less and less desire, if they ever had any, to inform others.

Hardly more than two percent of the total population, the Fieldmarshals are bound to lead others, and from an early age they can be observed taking command of groups. In some cases, Fieldmarshals simply find themselves in charge of groups, and are mystified as to how this happened. But the reason is that Fieldmarshals have a strong natural urge to give structure and direction wherever they are -- to harness people in the field and to direct them to achieve distant goals. They resemble Supervisors in their tendency to establish plans for a task, enterprise, or organization, but Fieldmarshals search more for policy and goals than for regulations and procedures.

They cannot not build organizations, and cannot not push to implement their goals. When in charge of an organization, whether in the military, business, education, or government, Fieldmarshals more than any other type desire (and generally have the ability) to visualize where the organization is going, and they seem able to communicate that vision to others. Their organizational and coordinating skills tends to be highly developed, which means that they are likely to be good at systematizing, ordering priorities, generalizing, summarizing, at marshalling evidence, and at demonstrating their ideas. Their ability to organize, however, may be more highly developed than their ability to analyze, and the Fieldmarshal leader may need to turn to an Inventor or Architect to provide this kind of input.

Fieldmarshals will usually rise to positions of responsibility and enjoy being executives. They are tireless in their devotion to their jobs and can easily block out other areas of life for the sake of their work. Superb administrators in any field -- medicine, law, business, education, government, the military -- Fieldmarshals organize their units into smooth-functioning systems, planning in advance, keeping both short-term and long-range objectives well in mind. For the Fieldmarshals, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing anything, and people's feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer decisions to be based on impersonal data, want to work from well thought-out plans, like to use engineered operations -- and they expect others to follow suit. They are ever intent on reducing bureaucratic red tape, task redundancy, and aimless confusion in the workplace, and they are willing to dismiss employees who cannot get with the program and increase their efficiency. Although Fieldmarshals are tolerant of established procedures, they can and will abandon any procedure when it can be shown to be ineffective in accomplishing its goal. Fieldmarshals root out and reject ineffectiveness and inefficiency, and are impatient with repetition of error.

Hillary Clinton, Napoleon, Margret Thatcher, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Golda Meir, Edward Teller, George Benard Shaw, and General George C. Marshall are examples of Rational Fieldmarshals.

At 5/7/08 06:13 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote:

At 5/7/08 06:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: why can't they refer to themselves as lesbans? or lesboans?

Um, because they were called that first?

This reminds me of something, The Great Question: Allied Atheist Alliance, United Atheist Alliance, or Unified Atheist League?

The people of Lesbos aren't otters by any chance are they?

I had done the test in the morning, and I just did it again, and look what I got:

YOUR TYPE
E N T J
Strength of the preferences %
1 50 12 1

LOL

At 5/7/08 06:13 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote:

At 5/7/08 06:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: why can't they refer to themselves as lesbans? or lesboans?

Um, because they were called that first?

ndians were called indians before NA natives :)

ENTJ
Extraverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
22 12 50 11

It seemed to abstract to me.

And just for Kicks, I got to do two AP Tests in the next two days (Literature and European History) as well as getting tickets for the Celtics vs Cavaliers playoff game on Thurs.

Should I just write off the Friday test or actually go.

At 5/7/08 07:43 PM, SolInvictus wrote: ndians were called indians before NA natives :)

And Native Americans don't want to be called Indians. So that comparison doesn't really work.