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At 11/22/06 03:29 AM, fli wrote:

At 11/21/06 10:01 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Bob who????
(I kid... I've heard a song or two... years ago.)

Happy birthday--- when is it?

Saturday.

I'll be 17.

And an adult in the legal sytem if I commit a crime.

At 11/21/06 07:11 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: My coat smells like strippers.

My jacket smells of burning.

I blame the war.

I blame tobacconists.

At 11/21/06 11:25 PM, Imperator wrote: It actually kinda irritates me, cause I am quite tired of having to watch what I say, and to whom I say it. One slip of the tongue and you're ruined in today's world, and it really sucks. We are expected to be perfect, never doing wrong, never out of place, never making mistakes.

Let me preface this by saying I don't know what the fuck you're all talking about. But do you really need to watch what you're saying and to whom all the time? I think that might say more about you than popular society. I have no problem not insulting people on a day to day basis...

At 11/22/06 01:17 AM, JoS wrote: Why does it seem ever thread I post in dies as soon as I post, with or without a lock?

I can explain the "with lock" scenario for you if you're really stumped Rugby...

At 11/22/06 01:03 PM, RedSkunk wrote: Let me preface this by saying I don't know what the fuck you're all talking about.

Michael Richards who played Kramer on Seinfeld is in deep shit right now for mishandling some hecklers during a standup gig this past week. And that's putting it lightly.

Oh, the Kramer thing. Yeah, he's an asshole. Big surprise there, eh?

Let me preface this by saying I don't know what the fuck you're all talking about. But do you really need to watch what you're saying and to whom all the time? I think that might say more about you than popular society. I have no problem not insulting people on a day to day basis...

Which is fine right up to addressing a public crowd. I have no problem insulting people either, but as soon as I say it in front of other people (instead of a private one on one), all hell breaks loose.

I've gotten people demanding apologies for my behavior.
My response was "fuck off!". I am entitled to my opinion, and I am entitled to express my opinion.

If I think you're an asshole, I'll tell it to whoever is around. If you got a problem with that, kiss my ass. I think it's bullshit that I should have to apologise for expressing it.

I really don't think Kramer needs to apologise if he truly believes what he said. If he was blowing up, then yeah, apologise. But don't puss out on what you believe just because your words may have offended some people........

Micheal Richards deserves the flak he got for being so damn racist.

But the thing is, if you don't like it, there's no one stopping you from listening.
I didn't like the guy in the video who said "he needs to give a public apology, because he offended every African American in America". So fuckin what? If he meant what he said, I would rather he have the balls to stick to his opinions than give into that shit. And who is this guy to speak for the entire black population in America? I'd rather HE give a public apology for assuming that, than Richards.........that's an obvious false statement that he's passing off as fact.

There was a preacher on the diag a few weeks ago with a big sign that said "God hates gays", and a shirt that said "Gays will burn in Hell".

I didn't believe what he said, so I didn't stay to listen. End of story.
On the other hand, there were some people there trying to remove the man (heckling him), and get him to apologise for his offensive behavior. I couldn't believe it, cause he had EVERY right to say what he said, whether someone believed it was correct or not.

If you don't like it, flick him off and move on, he's not worth your time!

Since I hold some positions here that require me to speak publicly, I get some flak for my choice of words. But I've never issued an apology, publicly or otherwise, for saying something I believed that offended someone. My opinions are my opinions. You don't like em? Tough fuckin shit. Don't listen next time.

. There is no excuse for that behavior, I don't care if it is just "words". Words can be offensive.

so what? Words can be offensive, but they can't cause damage. If I'm hurt because someone called me a short fuckin shithead, that's MY damn problem. I need to ask myself, "why did this hurt me?" "why should I care what he said?" etc. In the end, what damage is done? He has expressed his opinion, but if I don't respect or admire the person, what difference does it make? If I DID respect the person, I should re-evaluate WHY I respected the person. I shouldn't break down and cry because I'm only 5'3 and he called me short, or demand an apology.......

In the end, its the increasing PC culture that continues to piss me off.

At 11/22/06 06:21 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 11/22/06 03:29 AM, fli wrote:

At 11/21/06 10:01 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Bob who????
(I kid... I've heard a song or two... years ago.)

Happy birthday--- when is it?

Saturday.

I'll be 17.

And an adult in the legal sytem if I commit a crime.

Ah--
Two months exactly from my birthday in September... One month exactly from my half sister's birth from October... and one day before my sister's birthday on the 26th...
And

At 11/22/06 05:16 PM, Imperator wrote:

I really don't think Kramer needs to apologise if he truly believes what he said. If he was blowing up, then yeah, apologise. But don't puss out on what you believe just because your words may have offended some people........

I highly doubt that he truely beleives those black people were (n-word)s. He stated in his public apology that it is not what he beleives so there's two birds with one stone. I can only speak for myself but his apology seemed geniune. Yeah it's a mistake that he'll pay for but good people can make mistakes.
The sticks and stones argument is infintile. Just about all incedents of sticks and stones happen because of words.

At 11/22/06 05:50 PM, SevenSeize wrote: My birthday is on Monday. We need to have a party! I'm thinking fiesta!!!

Fiesta? Sure, but where are you going to find a donkey show in the States? All that red tape for the sake of "sanitation"...

At 11/22/06 05:58 PM, Empanado wrote:

At 11/22/06 05:50 PM, SevenSeize wrote: My birthday is on Monday. We need to have a party! I'm thinking fiesta!!!

Fiesta? Sure, but where are you going to find a donkey show in the States? All that red tape for the sake of "sanitation"...

I didn't know what "donkey show" was--
Until I googled it up.

It's not too dissimilar to how you make love to young and naive llamas...

At 11/22/06 05:50 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

My birthday is on Monday. We need to have a party! I'm thinking fiesta!!!

If you're willing to wait a day I could get you a copy of clerks two. Possibly the most romantic scene ever set to a donkey show.

At 11/22/06 06:13 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 11/22/06 05:50 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

My birthday is on Monday. We need to have a party! I'm thinking fiesta!!!

If you're willing to wait a day I could get you a copy of clerks two. Possibly the most romantic scene ever set to a donkey show.

Lovely-- wiki has a link to an actual donkey show pic...

You know you're jadded when you can shrug that off and say, "eh--"

At 11/22/06 05:16 PM, Imperator wrote: Which is fine right up to addressing a public crowd. I have no problem insulting people either, but as soon as I say it in front of other people (instead of a private one on one), all hell breaks loose.

Your post made no sense. I didn't say that I "don't have a problem insulting people." I said I don't have a problem not insulting people. Which means I don't accidently walk around calling people niglets and spics. And if you do actually "accidently" say these sorts of things, it's more of a reflection on you than "PC culture."

You need to calm down a little for these rants. I can almost feel the spittle hitting my face.

I'm racist against Normans, and I've never apologized for it, and I never will.

But then again, when you look like me and you smell like strippers, people don't really expect apologies.

offense is in the eye of the beholder. I imagine I should be offended by the letter "t" because it bears and unholy resemblance to the cross, and is therefore blasphemy.

I really like setting myself on fire.

At 11/22/06 06:18 PM, fli wrote:

Lovely-- wiki has a link to an actual donkey show pic...

That picture made me hard.

Sweet Jesus, what's wrong with me? TT_TT

At 11/22/06 07:33 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

lol...

So are we doing the shirtless thing for your birthday? Yes I'll be alone in mine

At 11/22/06 08:53 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/22/06 05:16 PM, Imperator wrote:

He said the N-word, to black people. It's not my fault if you can't comprehend what it means to be offended by words.

So what, black people say it all the time, he may have been using it in an insulting term, but so what.

People get offended, fine, but who cares.

You may not see the big deal, but you do not speak for the vast amount of people who were offended by the racist bullshit Micheal Richards had to say.

So what if there fucking offended, I'm offended by the sheer stupidity of the Anti Christmass buzzkills.

Jesus fucking Christ people.

It's an insulting word, the world will go fucking on.

At 11/22/06 09:29 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/22/06 09:22 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 11/22/06 08:53 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/22/06 05:16 PM, Imperator wrote:

I'll repeat: It is not my fault if you can't comprehend being insulted by words. It happens to me, all the time. You may not care, but you can't speak for those who were verbally abused that night.

Three words.

Boo Fucking Hoo.

And that makes it right?

It makes it even more right for him to say it.

My gosh, you people seem so insistent that no one should care that you're practically telling me what I should feel. People get offended from words. Period. It's happened to me, it happened to these two black people who went to the Laugh Factory, it happens.

And thats all fine and dandy, but are you the too black peple offended.

No.

I personally just don't give a shit, because words are useless in most of these cases.

At 11/22/06 09:44 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/22/06 09:39 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

See? You don't care. But you are in no place to speak for other people. Don't blame me if you're insensitive to other's feelings.

I'm sensitive to peoples feelings that I know and wish to respect.

I don't care what some people think in LA.

"The world is a sucky place, so that makes it okay to make it worse"

I was thinking more along the lines of Voiltares:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

I just heard them on Hannity & Colmes, they've filed a lawsuit. And I get personally disgusted when I see Kramer's racist rant.

Jesus Christ.

A lawsuit.

Well, that's you. Words can be considered a form of emotional abuse, and you'd be lying if you told me they never hurt.

They did once, then I shut myself off the them like a man should.

Ok, I'll be the asshole here and say it. That word is wrong for anyone to use. Using it about and to your own people is not impowering. It is keeping everything that word means in the current frame of mind and people who use it are obvoisly fighting so hard to be segmented that they can shut their fucking mouths about equality. Black people shouldn't call themselves that word, hispanics shouldn't call themselves wetbacks, gay people shouldn't call themselves faggots and the list of words I could technically get away with other than that one goes on and on.

At 11/22/06 09:56 PM, Grammer wrote:

Now I'm not saying this child is permanently damaged, but it's very close-minded to say that verbal abuse does nothing and anyone who is hurt by it is a pansy.

Jesus Grammer.

it's so fucking easy to get you off.

You really need to learn to recognise when someone's bullshitting you.

At 11/22/06 10:07 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: You really need to learn to recognise when someone's bullshitting you.

That's kind of hard to discern when all you have is TEXT to go by.

At 11/22/06 10:17 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 11/22/06 10:07 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: You really need to learn to recognise when someone's bullshitting you.

That's kind of hard to discern when all you have is TEXT to go by.

Your Ghey.

Because, I'm always like this.

This is serioulsy not Sarcasms

I rock.

At 11/23/06 02:28 AM, JMHX wrote: I rock.

You metrosexual borg you

At 11/23/06 02:28 AM, JMHX wrote: I rock.

Noysh

At 11/23/06 02:28 AM, JMHX wrote: I rock.

No, I rock

*goes looking for Total Trash

At 11/23/06 08:37 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:

*goes looking for Total Trash

Found'em

At 11/23/06 08:37 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 11/23/06 02:28 AM, JMHX wrote: I rock.

No, I rock

No, I rock, and roll, all day long, sweet suzy

Hey, i have something to say. Damn this topic is long!