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The problem is that she does these things or comes up with these ideas that are just so ...(long explanation full of profanities) and that would be fine but she refuses to give on anything despite all logic and just gets me so upset and I want to be frustrated her but I love her so much and I can't be frustrated with her that really frustrates me and then I get headache due to the obvious paradox and then I get even more frustrated and then I feel bad but I win the argument but I don't even want to be right anymore so then I say we'll just do what she wants to do but now she has firmly come to my side so then we have another argument arguing the opposite points that we just argued and then the whole cycle begins again. I suspect she does it on purpose so it will get to the point where I just automatically do what she wants without hesitation. The thing is, I think it's working...

Actually. BeFell, it's not because she's a woman as some folks say.
Cause how you feel for your wife, is how I feel for my husband. As far I can tell you, I don't know why this happens. Cause I can get hella pissed.

These things happen, and the only thing that the both of you should do is learn how to resolve a problem.

The best thing we did for our relationship is learn how to argue, and how to not take angry words seriously when we're mad.

Meaning, when you argue-- argue the point. Don't bring up things from the old past if it isn't necessary. And what is not necessary? For example... if she gets the pizza with the topping you don't like, then you shouldn't argue about family (I saw this today between my parents).

And find a resolution. As quickly as possible.
After the baby died, my husband r-a-n-o-f-t. Yeah, ran off... It was a horrible time for me, and for him. It was like over a week before I found him, and I wanted to fucking kill that motherfucker.

And we fought and exchanged harsh words.
Why did he run off? It was hard to get an answer, and I don't think I will ever know unless I was him. But we both knew that morning made us say bad things, and because we knew this, we were able to maintain a healthy relationship.

Good luck BeFell...
And don't make "rag" comments-- cause it's going to show your not serious, and it will hurt your wife's feelings.

Also--
marriage counseling is always a good thing. You don't need it, of course, but it's a great investment (and it's not a liberal touchy thing either...)

I actually would love to see a gay couple in marrage counceling just so the shrinks head will explode when he can't blindly side with the woman. Also, check my above statment on the problem resulting in the vulnerability created by a close emotional realationship.

At 6/1/05 10:12 PM, stafffighter wrote: I actually would love to see a gay couple in marrage counceling just so the shrinks head will explode when he can't blindly side with the woman. Also, check my above statment on the problem resulting in the vulnerability created by a close emotional realationship.

I didn't know shrink's suppose to side with women...

I thought there job is to help people to help themselves. (As clearly, nobody can make other people do anything.)

We've had counseling during Feburary and March--
but not for the relationship part, but more for grieving.
Even the baby's mom came (which took a lot of persuasiveness)

At 6/1/05 10:12 PM, stafffighter wrote: I actually would love to see a gay couple in marrage counceling just so the shrinks head will explode when he can't blindly side with the woman. Also, check my above statment on the problem resulting in the vulnerability created by a close emotional realationship.

i guess the shrink will just have to side with the most femenine acting gay guy.

but what happens if lesbians go in? i mean...they're both women...

At 6/1/05 10:31 PM, MALforPresident wrote:

i guess the shrink will just have to side with the most femenine acting gay guy.

dur, um, whichever one you that's the catcher is right

but what happens if lesbians go in? i mean...they're both women...

I guess he would have to be a pushover and agree with everyone

At 6/1/05 09:20 PM, LadyGrace wrote: No, it's because your strong emotional involvement with her makes you want her to be something much more than she can be.

Exactly. And she, in turn, does the exact same thing to the honerable Befell.

Doesn't love just piss you off?

At 6/1/05 09:51 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 6/1/05 09:40 PM, LadyGrace wrote: No it isn't. Fool. And if you knew women, then you'd know that.

I know women... I've been surrounded by sister's, aunts, grandmothers, cousins, and female friends all my life. Believe me, this from personal experience; there is no logic behind your actions other than the fact that your just PSYCHOTIC CREATURES.

God...people are gonna hate me for this.

I was raised around all males, save for my mother. And I have little to no baggage.
A male oriented house, like mine, obviously operates different from a female oriented household. When there's a problem, in this house, we've always been blunt about it. We argue, viciously, for a certain period of time...all of us giving brutal (and sometimes unfair) versions of honesty.
And problems are resolved.

I have a very close friend, whom I've known since middle school. He was raised with all females. Two sisters, a female cousin, his mother, and aunts. And his dad is more of a woman than most females I've met.
(For the record, I don't know where the rest of the males in his family went. Maybe the woman ate all of them in their sleep)
And they don't deal with anything, in that house. My friend tries to confront his mostly female family with legitimate gripes...and it's just him, and him alone, who puts forth the effort. The females in his house simply take offense, and hold long term grudges because he voiced his legitimate concerns. His mother goes out of his way to cater to her daughters, while practically ignoring her son.

Point is: Thank Christ I didn't have any sisters, aunts, or grandmothers that spent a lot of time around me.

At 6/1/05 10:31 PM, MALforPresident wrote:

At 6/1/05 10:12 PM, stafffighter wrote: I actually would love to see a gay couple in marrage counceling just so the shrinks head will explode when he can't blindly side with the woman. Also, check my above statment on the problem resulting in the vulnerability created by a close emotional realationship.

i guess the shrink will just have to side with the most femenine acting gay guy.
but what happens if lesbians go in? i mean...they're both women...

The shrink would obviously side with whichever of the females that was more 'feminine'. It'd be the more male oriented lesbian in the relationship, who would get the brunt of the shrink's criticism.

Or the Shrink would just kill himself. Whichever came first.

At 6/1/05 10:46 PM, _FLAGG wrote: Point is: Thank Christ I didn't have any sisters, aunts, or grandmothers that spent a lot of time around me.

Meh, I think men blame women for problems because it's easier than blaming themselves. Of course, I had two older brothers and a dad with a very strong personality. My mom could hold her ground though too. I'm just tired of men bitching and moaning about how their woman is causing all these problems and nothing is their fault. Now, there are some things that girlfriends do which is pretty crazy, but those things they do, I think to gain power in the relationship. It's a whole power struggle and they want to be the dominant one. I, personally, don't view relationships that way and I think a mutual respect is a given. And if one doesn't give you respect, then that's not a healthy relationship. But I'm just tired of men generalizing women. "All women are stupid" "all women are crazy" "omg you're upset because you're PMSing and you're completely illogical because you're a woman". It's fucking rediculous. Stop blaming other people for your shortcomings. If you suck, own up to it, appologize and move on. It's not like you have to constantly bitch about women bitching. God, it makes you look like a bunch of pussies.

You're right Lady Grace.
Women have been scapegoats to many things.

But careful not to say, "all men."
Some men think that some women cause their problems, and that's unfair. And I'm pretty sure the there are some women who think the same way too.

At 6/2/05 01:27 AM, senior_aztlan wrote: But careful not to say, "all men."
Some men think that some women cause their problems, and that's unfair. And I'm pretty sure the there are some women who think the same way too.

Oh, I'm not saying all men. I'm saying all men who complain about women. And I'm not saying all women are innocent. But I'm tired of all women being the scapegoats. Yes, there are some women out there that are complete douchebags. But, generally, most women are good than complete whores. Just like most men are good men.

At 6/2/05 01:35 AM, LadyGrace wrote: Oh, I'm not saying all men. I'm saying all men who complain about women.

In fact... let me rephrase that. Sometimes when men complain about women, it's venting. Which is an ok thing to do. No worries, everyone does it. But when it becomes an argument about "why are women crazy" and not "why is my woman crazy", that's when I get pissed. I don't say "all men are the scum of the earth" because I like men. I prefer hanging out with them. But I prefer the ones who don't complain about the shoddy lot they have in life because of their woman troubles. Most of the time, they bring those troubles on themselves.

I get so sick and tired of this sort of bullshit. If women are such illogical half-wits, why don't all of you just fag each other and take them out of the equation? Maybe I've just been really lucky, but in my experience both sexes are equally stupid and pathetic.

At 6/1/05 07:59 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 6/1/05 05:23 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Ah, it's been a long time. Does everything still suck as much as it did before?

No, there are fewer crazy brits around these days.

You ever get one of those "life" things?

I did, for a short while. Let me tell you guys, it was really weird. Kinda like you saw PURPOSE of stuff, and there were thoughts in my head telling me that I shouodn't be wasting my life on forums and shit all day. But then I learned how to ignore it, so all is good.

Everything's groovy with me, i'm buliding my own computer from the parts and holding a LAN party in about 3 hours, it being 7am in CrazyBritLand now (for those too lazy to work it out).

At 6/2/05 01:57 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: I did, for a short while. Let me tell you guys, it was really weird. Kinda like you saw PURPOSE of stuff, and there were thoughts in my head telling me that I shouodn't be wasting my life on forums and shit all day. But then I learned how to ignore it, so all is good.

You walked away from your computer!? For shame. You know you're not supposed to know what the sun looks like.

At 6/1/05 08:48 PM, BeFell wrote: Why is it that the woman I love has the ability to frustrate me more than anyone I have ever encountered?

Because you've just posted an oxymoron. Moron.

At 6/2/05 03:51 AM, Empanado wrote: Because you've just posted an oxymoron. Moron.

No, wait, it was rhetoric... redundant...
Whatever. I flunked school 'cause I'm hardcore.

At 6/2/05 03:53 AM, Empanado wrote: Whatever. I flunked school 'cause I'm hardcore.

hardnerd more like it...

At 6/2/05 01:38 AM, LadyGrace wrote: I prefer hanging out with them. But I prefer the ones who don't complain about the shoddy lot they have in life because of their woman troubles. Most of the time, they bring those troubles on themselves.

It is very true, I know that in the past alot of my women problems are entirely my fault. Recently I've been trying to chalk some of this stuff up to "the crazy existance that is life" instead of "damn women troubles" and it's actually helped alot.

Anyway I've actually noticed alot of girls that say "I perfer hanging out with guys" and alot of guys saying "I perfer hanging out with guys." It just makes it kinda annoying being a guy, having nearly 90% of my friends being women and then have people think I'm gay for that reason. It's annoying mainly because the reason why I have that many girl friends is because I'm a horny guy and I got to know them because I was considering dating them. So I'm wondering if I'm alone in that I have alot more girl friends then guy friends.

At 6/1/05 04:47 AM, LadyGrace wrote: Meh, it's good that you feel like you're growing up and becoming more mature, but don't loose that kid part of you. I mean, I'm mature and I'm all grown and what not, but I refuse to let go of my childish side. I embrace it. You can still play Zelda and still be a kid and be a grown up too. DON'T LOOSE YOUR INNER CHILD!

Of course I'll never lose my inner child Grace, I'll still be constructing legos at the age of 30, with my kids that is lol, and I'll still be whooping their ass at Soul Calibur and Smash Bros at the age of 60.

Ahem, on another note. I was intrigued by today's BBS User Of The Day:
Tamarat69r and when I saw the profile I realized she has a "Garbage" whistle... how the hell do you get a Garbage level whistle?!!

At 6/1/05 06:00 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 6/1/05 05:23 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: How come Ted disbanded the Politics Crew? We were cool.

I think it was because of infighting, I'm not sure.

More like... blatant inactivity. *cries*

Anyone know of any book 'portals' or anything like that. A place where you can submit novels/stories you wrote.

At 6/2/05 04:01 AM, senior_aztlan wrote: hardnerd more like it...

I take offense to that. I'm a dork, not a nerd. Nerds have social skills within their own groups.

And, um, you're... gay.

DAMMIT! STOP BEING A HOMOSEXUAL SO I CAN INSULT YOU IMMATURELY!

At 6/2/05 04:53 AM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Ahem, on another note. I was intrigued by today's BBS User Of The Day:
Tamarat69r and when I saw the profile I realized she has a "Garbage" whistle... how the hell do you get a Garbage level whistle?!!

My guess would be, by whistling a lot of false alarm whistles. That's not being a good whistler, may I say. No, not good whistling at all.

At 6/2/05 01:41 PM, unowned wrote: Anyone know of any book 'portals' or anything like that. A place where you can submit novels/stories you wrote.

Woosh! Woosh!

At 6/2/05 01:35 PM, Freakapotimus wrote:

More like... blatant inactivity. *cries*

I did what I could but my spaz period very nearly kept me from being there to see the end. It's a shame, we were one of the more intelligence based groups to come out of newgrounds. I like to keep a reminder of the honor in my sig. It would seem all too plain without it.

Ahh! You got me to some bondage story site.
My dirty little sadist fantasies have found their home!

At 6/2/05 01:21 AM, LadyGrace wrote:

At 6/1/05 10:46 PM, _FLAGG wrote: Point is: Thank Christ I didn't have any sisters, aunts, or grandmothers that spent a lot of time around me.

Meh, I think men blame women for problems because it's easier than blaming themselves.

Oh, definitely. I certainly wasn't trying to say otherwise. I was really just comparing my house against one other persons...I wasn't trying to make some general statement about 'all' or 'most' women. It was just a personal experience kind of thing.
Both genders, in a relationship, try to push blame off on the other. I think that's just human nature.
I think it's always been that way, since the beggining of time. And it probably always will be.

I'm just tired of men bitching and moaning about how their woman is causing all these problems and nothing is their fault.

I know exactly what you mean.
In fact, in my current relationships...any fights or problems are, nine tenths of the time, my fault. But that's just one female, and one guy (being myself).
But then again, I don't have a 'typical female' as a girlfriend...nor am I a 'typical male'. That's what originally attracted me to her (and vice versa, i think)....she's so much like me, it hurts sometimes. Us being so much alike is probably the roots of any problems we have.

At 6/2/05 01:52 AM, red_skunk wrote: I get so sick and tired of this sort of bullshit. If women are such illogical half-wits, why don't all of you just fag each other and take them out of the equation?

Word. I'm on it. You wanna.....you know...with me?

At 6/2/05 02:08 PM, stafffighter wrote: I did what I could...

We should do something like that again... only better.

At 6/2/05 02:05 PM, Empanado wrote:

At 6/2/05 04:01 AM, senior_aztlan wrote: hardnerd more like it...

I take offense to that. I'm a dork, not a nerd. Nerds have social skills within their own groups.

And, um, you're... gay.

DAMMIT! STOP BEING A HOMOSEXUAL SO I CAN INSULT YOU IMMATURELY!

I was doing an Empanado while I was making this thread.

Thank you for being my muse, my inspiration, my everything.

Know what's annoying about performing comedy? Whenever you think of something funny that's annoyingly long, you still have to write it down.

I'm going to have to type this shit up later, too. Damn it.

At 6/2/05 03:19 PM, Freakapotimus wrote:

At 6/2/05 02:08 PM, stafffighter wrote: I did what I could...

We should do something like that again... only better.

Founding membership, sweet. I'll do what I can to make this happen

At 6/2/05 03:42 PM, senior_aztlan wrote: I was doing an Empanado while I was making this thread.

You're so going to regret that last message of yours when I become the ultimate supreme leader of the world.

And my name's not Pablo. It's Juan. Juan Pablo. Bob. Llama. Fuck you, fuck your shit in your fucking cock-sucking fuckingness. Fuck.