will US is going to talk with NK?

[Anti-corruption]

North Korea, Kim Jung Il is causing too much chaos or attention in North East Asia. and this can really create some sort of crisis. i'm quite sick of that. will US is going to hold a talk with him?

[JMHX]

Right now the United States is doing all it can to AVOID a conflict with North Korea. Why? Because they have the manpower and weaponry to fight back, unlike a certain nation ending in a "q". We're going to wait until the last possible moment, and get as much support as possible before we even get Jimmy Carter to ring ol' spiky hair's doorbell. Don't expect miracles.

[Jlop985]

It's simple. Iraq has oil. North Korea does not. Even though North Korea is definitely more of a threat, the Bush administration is doing next to nothing because they cannot profit from a war with North Korea. I used to be on Bush's side on the war with Iraq, but I just saw his hypocrisy when he did nothing about North Korea.

[JMHX]

I don't think it's so much the oil as it is America just wanting to flex a little muscle to prove we're doing something in the War on Terror.

[mysecondstar]

At 3/11/03 10:37 PM, Jlop985 wrote: It's simple. Iraq has oil. North Korea does not. Even though North Korea is definitely more of a threat, the Bush administration is doing next to nothing because they cannot profit from a war with North Korea. I used to be on Bush's side on the war with Iraq, but I just saw his hypocrisy when he did nothing about North Korea.

jesus lord the ignorance. first of all, the US can not take the oil. hence, they can't profit from something that isn't theirs. the world thinks that the US is in this world to tap into one of the world's largest oil reserve. so the US can not take the oil. period. done. end of discussion. it is, as Judge said, an act to prove that the US is doing something about the war on terror. yet people still have this stubborn belief that it's all about the oil.

second, a fleet of US long-range bombers has been sent to Guam to flex its might at north korea. from there it can be outfitted with whatever it needs from standard, "smart", or nuclear bombs. they are also talking to its allies in the far east such as South Korea, Japan, and China to persuade north korea to settle down. doing nothing you say? i suggest you do a better job of informing yourself before you spew out more ignorant babble. it's for your sake, not mine.

[JMHX]

Yes, China is our ally. They don't dislike the United States at all. They didn't back up the Koreans back in the 1950's. This one isn't going to be as easy as Iraq even if we DO have a laundry list filled with allies.

[mysecondstar]

At 3/12/03 09:33 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: They didn't back up the Koreans back in the 1950's.

actually, the Chinese did help the north koreans in the Korean War. that was the only reason why the Korean Conflict wasn't a complete success. we just got too close for comfort for them. after the Inchon counter-offensive (a brilliant piece of strategy by General MacArthur) we almost took the entire penninsula. there were only pockets of communists in the north. then the Chinese came in. the retook Seoul and the US had to re-retake Seoul again before they signed the armistice. roughly where they started from.

when China joined the fray, that's when the friction with MacArthur and Truman started. MacArthur wanted to stop the Chinese by preliminary bombing runs and, ultimately, nuking them, and Truman wouldn't hear of it. so he dismissed MacArthur.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/859731.asp?cp1=1http://mr-31238.mr.valuehost.co.u k/assets/Flash/psychic.swf&cp1=1

these are some of the atrocities going in north korea as we speak. it's a recount of a north korean political prisoner. it's sick what they do to these people. it's similiar to what saddam hussein is accused of.

unfortunately, there isn't much we can do with the north koreans. if we send troops, the north koreans may preemptively attack either by invading South Korea, firing artillery into Seoul, or firing a missle on one of our allies ie. Japan or directly on US soil.

in all honesty, iraq is not even a problem in comparison with the Korean conflict. we can steam roll the iraqis, but the north koreans have millions of soldiers ready to attack at a single word from puff daddy kim jong il. perhaps it's to show the world our might so that our enemies will back off.

[JMHX]

It was sarcasm. I know the Chinese backed up the Koreans.

[mysecondstar]

At 3/12/03 04:20 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: It was sarcasm. I know the Chinese backed up the Koreans.

just keeping you in check^_^

[JMHX]

At 3/12/03 05:39 PM, mysecondstar wrote:

At 3/12/03 04:20 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: It was sarcasm. I know the Chinese backed up the Koreans.

just keeping you in check^_^

If I didn't respect you, this would have been a huge flame war. But I guess it's more comical now.

[mysecondstar]

At 3/12/03 05:47 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:
If I didn't respect you, this would have been a huge flame war. But I guess it's more comical now.

oh, we wouldn't want that now, would we ^_^

i just feel very strongly about the conflict in Korea. it means a great deal to me, and i usually take things very seriously about the matter. but i should really lighten up.

[JMHX]

At 3/12/03 08:51 PM, mysecondstar wrote:

At 3/12/03 05:47 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:
If I didn't respect you, this would have been a huge flame war. But I guess it's more comical now.

oh, we wouldn't want that now, would we ^_^

i just feel very strongly about the conflict in Korea. it means a great deal to me, and i usually take things very seriously about the matter. but i should really lighten up.

Well, we all feel strongly about some things. Besides, you're light enough on most of the other topics. What we need is a topic to just let people's hair down and get some tension out. Maybe then we can have some truly great debates. Hm...a lounge thread.

[Jimsween]

hmmm... a lounge thread interesting. How about one on jessie ventura hes always good for a larf.

[Commander-K25]

During the Korean War in the early 50s, General MacArthur said that if we didn't go nuclear against them, we'd still be there in 50 years. Guess what? It's been fifty years; we're still there. Maybe he was right.

I think that we really could build an international "coalition" on the N. Korea issue as the evidence is hardly in dispute that they have illegal unclear weapons. But, this issue have to be handled after Iraq. The UN can't even handle one crisis. Two and Annan would have stroke or something.

[mysecondstar]

in all honesty the UN, like i've said before, is just a forum for all the countries in the world to gather and slam each other with their own agendas. this generally wouldn't be a problem if only everyone weren't so rigid on their agenda.

tolerance and compromise, two things lacking in this world, are key to resolve such issues as iraq and north korea, yet all they do is bicker without coming up with any solution to the problem. i am actually glad that the US decided to set the example and be a little more flexible on the deadline issue. a world coalition against anyone wanting to do what they want withour regard to the entire world is the best course of action.

hopefully it will also be this way with the north korean issue.

[NEMESiSZ]

I sure hope the US is will going to be are talking with the NK is with talk soon, otherwise there might be some misunderstandings.

[JMHX]

At 3/13/03 06:07 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: I sure hope the US is will going to be are talking with the NK is with talk soon, otherwise there might be some misunderstandings.

Aah! Evil grammar overload!