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At 3/7/03 09:12 PM, IndecentXposure wrote: Nobody would stand a chance against America. I'm not just saying that because im American but because i understand the capabilities of our military.

prolly true

1.Prove it. If we do, have we ever used them?

yes you have used chemical weapons in Vietnam and Korea
and you have used nuclear weapons in Iraq and Kosovo

2.We have aided countries in the past who have commited genocide but once again throw some facts out there and maybe your thread will have more credibility.

facts? the indians have been slaughtered that's a fact.

3.Come and get it.

not yet

4.The U.S armed, funded and trained Afghan rebels against the soviets which went straight to Usama. The soviets were known as the greater threat and this was before we knew Usama was a threat. Would we really train someone that hated America?

YES because you guys are short-sighted. you trained the taliban, the US trained Sadam 2

5. Ive always had a simple solution, deport them to Mexico orrr Canada.

you racist pig

The minority gangs in America contribute to about 85% of all crime related incidents each year but you dont have to worry about them unless you are in a rival gang or if your walking down the street of Compton or Harlem at night.

ok and what about all the crazy ppl carying guns in america?

7. Thats not the point. The point is Iraq has had 12 years and 17 resolutions to disarm. Times up, we will disarm them for them.

oh and all the resolutions the U.S. have ignored throughout history? they have to be covered with the mantel of love i guess...

8. America has caused enviromental damage, but so have just about every Westernized country in the world. I don't know much about environmental damage but if i had to guess i would say the U.S pays for it...but im a little confused, who puts a price on environmental damage? Trillions(hmmm i dont know about that)

but we try to do something about it and try to make lesser pollution.

At 3/8/03 10:31 AM, nimmer wrote:

At 3/7/03 09:12 PM, IndecentXposure wrote: Nobody would stand a chance against America. I'm not just saying that because im American but because i understand the capabilities of our military.

prolly true

1.Prove it. If we do, have we ever used them?

yes you have used chemical weapons in Vietnam and Korea
and you have used nuclear weapons in Iraq and Kosovo

Last time I checked we didn't nuke Irq and Kosovo, only Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

2.We have aided countries in the past who have commited genocide but once again throw some facts out there and maybe your thread will have more credibility.

facts? the indians have been slaughtered that's a fact.

True. I'm not defending that.

3.Come and get it.

not yet

Not yet? You planning an attack?

4.The U.S armed, funded and trained Afghan rebels against the soviets which went straight to Usama. The soviets were known as the greater threat and this was before we knew Usama was a threat. Would we really train someone that hated America?

YES because you guys are short-sighted. you trained the taliban, the US trained Sadam 2

Oh, and maybe we shouldn't have extended lend-lease to the Soviets during WWII.

5. Ive always had a simple solution, deport them to Mexico orrr Canada.

you racist pig

Hey, I'm not advocating his solution either.

The minority gangs in America contribute to about 85% of all crime related incidents each year but you dont have to worry about them unless you are in a rival gang or if your walking down the street of Compton or Harlem at night.

ok and what about all the crazy ppl carying guns in america?

What about all the crazy Swiss carrying guns? Virtually 100% of Swiss adults are armed. Carrying guns doesn't make one crazy. I'm worried about all the people who already are crazy carrying guns, but that's why the sane, law-abiding citizens carry guns too.

7. Thats not the point. The point is Iraq has had 12 years and 17 resolutions to disarm. Times up, we will disarm them for them.

oh and all the resolutions the U.S. have ignored throughout history? they have to be covered with the mantel of love i guess...

I hate hypocrisy too.

8. America has caused enviromental damage, but so have just about every Westernized country in the world. I don't know much about environmental damage but if i had to guess i would say the U.S pays for it...but im a little confused, who puts a price on environmental damage? Trillions(hmmm i dont know about that)

but we try to do something about it and try to make lesser pollution.

We should do something about pollution, and I think the pullout of the Kyoto treaty was a major loss of face, but we shouldn't sacrifice human interest to dubious environmental ones.

GAH...watch the news, read a paper. France won't do it because it's their policy directly from Jacques Chirac. Germany won't do it because Gerhardt Schroeder got re-elected on an anti-war platform and now has to live up to it. and you forget about Russia, the nation with another veto. they won't go because they don't want to lose the millions they invested in iraq.

Every time liberals like Peter Jennings support these anti-war rallys, I wanna throw my TV through the window. We can't wait any longer to act against Saddam.

The only reason the French and Germans are so reluctant to go to war is because of oil. Most Americans don't realize that Europe receives one-third of its oil from the Middle-East. If they support us, they will suffer hugely because Saddam has complete control over the oil regulation in the Middle East. Even though the United States receives just ten percent of its oil from over there, oils being a world commotity will affect us in North America as well as other nations around the world.

The French and Germans do not look ahead to the future but instead focus on protecting their asses in the present. This whole UN inspectors thing is just a way that France and Germany can protect their asses and look like they don't want war. I'm sure they want Saddam out of power in Iraq, but they don't have the balls to back themselves up. This just goes to show how our "allies" act to protect people in need. The last time the French wanted proof a rearmament (back in the 1930's), German tanks were rolling through Paris.

A boycott of France and Germany is not necessary. What we need is a boycott of the United Nations. I've given up hope that we are able to cooperate with these losers in Europe. Most people don't realize that there was an organization in the 20's and 30's called the League of Nations. This organization had no power to enforce international security back then, and the United Nations has no power to enforce international security now. If the United Nations is such a good system, then why hasn't it done anything to stop Saddam these past ten years? I can guarantee you, if the United Nations doesn't undergo any drastic changes, it will cease to exist in the next ten years.

As for France and Germany, screw these losers, take out Saddam, and install a new ruler in Iraq. Maybe then we can sort out the mess that these terrorists have spread throughout the world.

prolly true

yes you have used chemical weapons in Vietnam and Korea
and you have used nuclear weapons in Iraq and Kosovo

not yet
YES because you guys are short-sighted. you trained the taliban, the US trained Sadam 2
you racist pig
ok and what about all the crazy ppl carying guns in america?

oh and all the resolutions the U.S. have ignored throughout history? they have to be covered with the mantel of love i guess...

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but we try to do something about it and try to make lesser pollution.

very true.300 billion dollars/year on the military. best hi-tech weapons, tanks, fighter-jest ect. best trained soldiers in the world.
We did in Vietnam and Korea? Really? prove it. with facts. We only used nuclear weapons in Hiroshima and Nagasaki which ended WW2.
Who started the slaughtering of Indians. Who started slavery in America. British settlers. Don't blame the America of today for stuff that happened in the 18th and 19th century.

You're from Belgium. One, our military would decimate yours in 24 ours. Two, The U.S has more allies than Belgium. Not going to happen, never will happen. It would be funny to see you try though.: The WORLD wasnt aware of the Talibans intentions and views at the time, if they were they would have informed us. Iraq used to be an ally of the U.S. and we including the world were blind to see the true Saddam at the time.
Why is that racist. I have black and hispanic friends. There is nothing wrong with wanting thugs who do nothing to contribute to society except cause mayehem and crime out of the country. I want the KKK deported as well. Although the KKK from the 1960's till now has gone from 2 million members to maybe a thousand. But those thousand and any racist for that matter should be deported.
Ignorance. steriotypes. generalizations. There is alot of that about America. Sure people carry guns. That doesnt make someone a bad person or crazy for that matter. I personaly dont know anybody who carrys a gun.usually the crazy people who are carrying guns in America are those who are in gangs. What about the crazy people who carry guns in Belgium? weak argument.Name some resolutions that currently forbid the U.S. of doing such things and how have we ignored themGood for you. I'm sure you are setting aside a multi-billion dollar plan to rid gas-powered vehicles like the U.S. is doing, right? If thats not contributing to less polution i dont know what is.

I dont know what just happened but here..

very true.300 billion dollars/year on the military. best hi-tech weapons, tanks, fighter-jest ect. best trained soldiers in the world.
We did in Vietnam and Korea? Really? prove it. with facts. We only used nuclear weapons in Hiroshima and Nagasaki which ended WW2.
Who started the slaughtering of Indians. Who started slavery in America. British settlers. Don't blame the America of today for stuff that happened in the 18th and 19th century.
You're from Belgium. One, our military would decimate yours in 24 ours. Two, The U.S has more allies than Belgium. Not going to happen, never will happen. It would be funny to see you try though.: The WORLD wasnt aware of the Talibans intentions and views at the time, if they were they would have informed us. Iraq used to be an ally of the U.S. and we including the world were blind to see the true Saddam at the time.
Why is that racist. I have black and hispanic friends. There is nothing wrong with wanting thugs who do nothing to contribute to society except cause mayehem and crime out of the country. I want the KKK deported as well. Although the KKK from the 1960's till now has gone from 2 million members to maybe a thousand. But those thousand and any racist for that matter should be deported.
Ignorance. steriotypes. generalizations. There is alot of that about America. Sure people carry guns. That doesnt make someone a bad person or crazy for that matter. I personaly dont know anybody who carrys a gun.usually the crazy people who are carrying guns in America are those who are in gangs. What about the crazy people who carry guns in Belgium? weak argument.Name some resolutions that currently forbid the U.S. of doing such things and how have we ignored themGood for you. I'm sure you are setting aside a multi-billion dollar plan to rid gas-powered vehicles like the U.S. is doing, right? If thats not contributing to less polution i dont know what is.

We already know that France is very against the War on Iraq for whatever reasons. I don't feel like restaiting all of them. However, do you think they will use the almighty Veto power? I'm pretty sure China won't, and Russia is a big if...but France seems to be the rebel.

You're all idiots, regardless of your opinions.

At 3/8/03 08:56 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: You're all idiots, regardless of your opinions.

Good to have you back.

At 3/8/03 08:56 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: You're all idiots, regardless of your opinions.

haha

"Opinions" should've been in quotes, since in order for something to be an opinion, it needs to be based on something besides maniacal delusions.

At 3/7/03 04:57 PM, panik wrote: Evil
What diplomatic solution? They would not even be destroying those couple of missiles if it was not for our forces putting the pressure on them.

one would wonder why America has not destroyed its missles...

Oh! i remember now! everybody hates you!

And when i say you, i mean the republican gov't

At 3/8/03 09:38 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: "Opinions" should've been in quotes, since in order for something to be an opinion, it needs to be based on something besides maniacal delusions.

Not really, you have no proof that george bush is sexy, yet you have and enjoy youir sexual fantasies with him.

Therefore that is your opinion based on nothing, therefore it is still an opinion

At 3/8/03 08:40 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote: BOYCOTT NEWGROUNDS FORUMS

One would wonder why stupid one sentence republican boy didn't do this ages ago.

At 3/8/03 10:43 PM, DarknessIncarnate wrote:
Not really, you have no proof that george bush is sexy, yet you have and enjoy youir sexual fantasies with him.

Therefore that is your opinion based on nothing, therefore it is still an opinion

That's terrific, but when you get verbally raped on these forums, it's from getting your actual arguments torn down, whereas when you try to insult someone, you need to make up 8th grade style insults.

Thanks for that. I needed cheering up, and your post was highly amusing. Somebody give panik a sitcom.

At 3/8/03 10:52 AM, Jlop985 wrote:

At 3/8/03 10:31 AM, nimmer wrote: and you have used nuclear weapons in Iraq and Kosovo

Last time I checked we didn't nuke Irq and Kosovo, only Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

i didn't say you nuked them i said you used nuclear weapons. those nuclear weapons you guys used where with empoored uranium. (opposite of enriched uranium u use for classical nukes)

not yet

Not yet? You planning an attack?

hell no, i'm just joking

YES because you guys are short-sighted. you trained the taliban, the US trained Sadam 2

Oh, and maybe we shouldn't have extended lend-lease to the Soviets during WWII.

in fact all those stupidities are made because you americans HAVE TO make war every few years for your economy... don't forget the U.S. have the biggest weapon-industry of the world.

What about all the crazy Swiss carrying guns? Virtually 100% of Swiss adults are armed. Carrying guns doesn't make one crazy. I'm worried about all the people who already are crazy carrying guns, but that's why the sane, law-abiding citizens carry guns too.

hey but the swiss are sane (well they may have a filthfobia but that hasn't hurt nobody yet)

but we try to do something about it and try to make lesser pollution.

We should do something about pollution, and I think the pullout of the Kyoto treaty was a major loss of face, but we shouldn't sacrifice human interest to dubious environmental ones.

what human intrest you're talking about? the human intrest of the humans who live now or the intrest of generations to come ... oh wait ... stupid question.
i would like my children to have a world where they still can breath freely.

At 3/8/03 07:53 PM, IndecentXposure wrote: I dont know what just happened but here..

We did in Vietnam and Korea? Really? prove it. with facts.

what is agent orange? a pesticide. what was it used they way it was used in korea and vietnam? a chemical weapon. they still use pesticides as chemical weapons in columbia.

We only used nuclear weapons in Hiroshima and Nagasaki which ended WW2.

already clarified that in my previous post

Who started the slaughtering of Indians. Who started slavery in America. British settlers. Don't blame the America of today for stuff that happened in the 18th and 19th century.

hey man i know it where the english who started the slaughtering and the slavedriving. but the americans continued it.

You're from Belgium. One, our military would decimate yours in 24 ours. Two, The U.S has more allies than Belgium.

true

Not going to happen, never will happen. It would be funny to see you try though.: The WORLD wasnt aware of the Talibans intentions and views at the time, if they were they would have informed us. Iraq used to be an ally of the U.S. and we including the world were blind to see the true Saddam at the time.

the world was aware of the intentions of the taliban but at that time they where anti-USSR so we did as if we didn't know that. plus i remember when the taliban conquered more and more of afghanistan till they conquered it fully. i remember the comments on taliban go from "the muslim-extremists" to "freedomfighters"
Sadam not quite the same story but parallel because at that time Sadam was on the same side as the americans they "forgot" all about his true nature.

Why is that racist. I have black and hispanic friends. There is nothing wrong with wanting thugs who do nothing to contribute to society except cause mayehem and crime out of the country. I want the KKK deported as well. Although the KKK from the 1960's till now has gone from 2 million members to maybe a thousand. But those thousand and any racist for that matter should be deported.

deportation is no solution education is.

Ignorance. steriotypes. generalizations. There is alot of that about America. Sure people carry guns. That doesnt make someone a bad person or crazy for that matter. I personaly dont know anybody who carrys a gun.usually the crazy people who are carrying guns in America are those who are in gangs.

ok true but there's also a lot of ignorance stereotypes and generalisations IN america.
still i try not to fall to much in that trap.

What about the crazy people who carry guns in Belgium? weak argument.

we have stronger laws against weapons. maybe that's not much but at least it's something.

At 3/8/03 10:31 AM, nimmer wrote:

i didn't say you nuked them i said you used nuclear weapons. those nuclear weapons you guys used where with empoored uranium. (opposite of enriched uranium u use for classical nukes)

Depleted Uranium shells are not "nuclear" weapons. They're just "special" rounds.

At 3/8/03 07:11 AM, Slizor wrote: Commander! Decided to come back for good? I've been missing some decent opposition.

Perhaps. This forum irks me greatly but I can't resist.

At 3/9/03 06:46 PM, Jlop985 wrote:

At 3/8/03 10:31 AM, nimmer wrote:

i didn't say you nuked them i said you used nuclear weapons. those nuclear weapons you guys used where with empoored uranium. (opposite of enriched uranium u use for classical nukes)

Depleted Uranium shells are not "nuclear" weapons. They're just "special" rounds.

so depleted is the word? thx.
i just made i literal translation.
but to the point now
depleted uranium shells are nuclear weapons because they contaminate the environment (and the people) wit their radiation.

Wow its monday, I didnt have internet over the weekend to respond but Im quite happy to see so many responses, negative and positive. Hey thats funny because if you were in Iraq you wouldn't beable to do this...talk freely with out the threat of being thrown in jail funny huh. Any way two things one Im still sticking with my original statement and second its funny to see how if anyone disagress with you they are a shit head but if they agree with you, your best friends funny anyway check out my next post

Fuck that...boycott America.

You should boycott breathing.

I tried that once. I switched over to having gills and living in my bathtub, but the slits i cut in the side of my neck started bleeding, and I passed out.
Now I'm in a mental institution!

Now I'm in a mental institution!

We already knew that you live in Canada.

You are right about other countries giving iraq weapons; france gave iraq many nuclear reactor parts and satalite images of US and other countries during the embargo, russia and germany gave iraq surplus weapon stuff, china gave iraq weapons too. I cant say however we are that clean cause we gave them weaapons when they were helping us fight iran but that was before we knew saddam hussien was a crazy bastard. and france sucks.

1: the agent orange in vietnam wasnt to kill vietnameses it was to kill the trees and it killed more of us than it did them
2: riight we used nuclear weapons in kosovo and iraq that makes sense because its possible we couldve used a nuclear weapon without starting a WW3 and on top of it not get caught.
3: the indians werent slaughtered by anyone living today that was over 100 years ago

At 3/10/03 07:57 PM, jimsween wrote: 3: the indians werent slaughtered by anyone living today that was over 100 years ago

So this suddenly makes it alright? Like saying that it was alright for Hitler to kill off 10 million people in gas chambers and firing squads in a few decades because no one will be alive that had flipped the switches or pulled the triggers? Time passing doesn't make huge gashes in history suddenly heal up.

It doesn't make them heal up, but it does effectively stop punishment. And any sort of retribution.
You can't punish the descendents of people who did something wrong, just as we wouldn't lock up Hitler's great nephew in law, we won't give land to the natives, regardless of who "stole" it, or when.