BOYCOT FRANCE AND GERMANY

[panik]

I've been thinking about this and why would France and Germany be so against going to war with Iraq. If you think about it they must have some connection with Iraq .I think that they gave weapons to Iraq and now they are just Stalling for time in the UN so that they can clean up the evidence before the US and Great Britain get in there. Think about it why would these two relativly small political and military powers be so against taking out a dictator with bio and chemical weapons.I dont think the French are against the war beacuse they are peace loving or that they are ungrateful, limp wristed, don't hurt me please take my country pussies (which they are), they are just stalling so they dont get caught. Why eles would they turn their back on the US who saved their asses. And Germany doesn't want anything to do with war since there last two failures WWI and WWII that and they don't want to get caught either.

And for you stupid Hippies out there God your lame, why dont you stop being so nieve and watch the news once and a while. Here are some things you probably dont know because you live in some carebear fantasy land:
1) Iraq does have chemical and bio weapons
2) Iraq has been commiting Genocide of the Kurdish people in norther Iraq
3)Oil they have it we need it if you dont think we dont then you can forget about asking your daddy for a car
4) Iraq did play a part in terriost activities not only on 911 but across the globe.
5)They would not hesitate about putting a gun to your head and shooting.
6)Iraq has invaded two countries in 30 years
7)Iraq has caused billions of dollars in enviromental damage

Wake up smell the coffee dont be lame think before you speak and get informed.

P.S. Do you actually think that they will not be a threat in the future if we don't act now. Stupid Mimes

[TomFlump]

France and Germany are against war because they hav business ties to Iraq.

[Ted-Easton]

None of those are reasons good enough for war. War is, and has always BEEN a last resort, but Bush has clearly stated it is his first.

And have you bought EXTRA products from Britain because they stand with you?
Your lack of buying from France isn't having them shaking in their boots. Actually, they are, from laughter of how stupid you are for boycotting them.
You shouldn't try to punish countries for having differing foreign policy.
Or do you disagree that anyone should have a different policy than America?

[EvilEgbert]

At 3/7/03 03:26 PM, panik wrote: I've been thinking about this and why would France and Germany be so against going to war with Iraq. If you think about it they must have some connection with Iraq .I think that they gave weapons to Iraq and now they are just Stalling for time in the UN so that they can clean up the evidence before the US and Great Britain get in there. Think about it why would these two relativly small political and military powers be so against taking out a dictator with bio and chemical weapons.I dont think the French are against the war beacuse they are peace loving or that they are ungrateful, limp wristed, don't hurt me please take my country pussies (which they are), they are just stalling so they dont get caught. Why eles would they turn their back on the US who saved their asses. And Germany doesn't want anything to do with war since there last two failures WWI and WWII that and they don't want to get caught either.

That must be one of the dumbest things I have read EVER on the newgrounds bbs, including the general forum!!
Tell me have you actualy woken up and smelled the coffee, exactly how informed are you?

[RoboTripper]

To Panik:

Iraq doesn't need weapons from France and Germany - they already have their weapons from the US. And if you're gonna bring up old military history by saying that we saved the French, you should crack a history book and read about how they saved us during the our Revolution.

You're starting to sound like a broken record. Are you just gonna cut-and-paste those "points" on all your posts? Cause that would be annoying.

[panik]

Are you seriously bringing up the American revolution oh my god the french got involved just for the fact that they hated the british

[panik]

Wow EvilEgbert you sure showed me, what exciting and brillant ideas you had stupid. dont respond unless your going to defend your answer

[panik]

TED,
no I dont think every country should have the SAME forigen policy, but in a case where you have a mad man with weapons of mass destruction I think that most countries would be concerned. Oh yeah N. Korea is also going to strat producing uranium that they will be selling to terriost groups on the black market should we just stand by and let that happen too. And Boycotting france is just the same as the french protesting in their streets against america, and just for your information if people do start boycotting france it will hurt them because who are the biggst consumers of european goods in the world not the Europeans its the Americans

[EvilEgbert]

Okay, I'll defend my answer for you as it seems you didn't get it the first time.
First you start telling us about how France and Germany are must be supporting Iraq without giving us any information that could proof it, then you tell us to get informed. I don't think you have the right to tell anyone to get informed when you show no indication at all that you are informed yourself.

[panik]

Evil,
I didnt say that that was what was going on I said That is what I think is going on because I cant think of any other good reason why they would care so much about Iraq. Now do you have a diffrent idea why they care. And Iknow its not because their just being nice

[EvilEgbert]

No, It's probably not because their just being nice. If you've watched the news lately you'd know that they think there is still room for a diplomatic solution.

[RoboTripper]

At 3/7/03 04:04 PM, panik wrote: Are you seriously bringing up the American revolution oh my god the french got involved just for the fact that they hated the british

Yeah, what's your point? I wasn't talking about their motive, I was just saying that if we're gonna be dredging up old debts then we are indebted to them too. The Statue of Liberty is a permament reminder of that.

Oh yeah N. Korea is also going to strat producing uranium that they will be selling to terriost groups on the black market should we just stand by and let that happen too.

You just got done talking about how you aren't stating things as fact when you have no evidence, and now you go and do it again. Thank God Bush broke off relations with N. Korea and declared them as part of the axis-of-evil. Self-fulfilling prophecy anyone?

[panik]

Evil
What diplomatic solution? They would not even be destroying those couple of missiles if it was not for our forces putting the pressure on them.

At 3/7/03 03:26 PM, panik wrote: I've been thinking about this and why would France and Germany be so against going to war with Iraq. If you think about it they must have some connection with Iraq .I think that they gave weapons to Iraq and now they are just Stalling for time in the UN so that they can clean up the evidence before the US and Great Britain get in there. Think about it why would these two relativly small political and military powers be so against taking out a dictator with bio and chemical weapons.I dont think the French are against the war beacuse they are peace loving or that they are ungrateful, limp wristed, don't hurt me please take my country pussies (which they are), they are just stalling so they dont get caught. Why eles would they turn their back on the US who saved their asses. And Germany doesn't want anything to do with war since there last two failures WWI and WWII that and they don't want to get caught either.

And for you stupid Hippies out there God your lame, why dont you stop being so nieve and watch the news once and a while. Here are some things you probably dont know because you live in some carebear fantasy land:
1) Iraq does have chemical and bio weapons
2) Iraq has been commiting Genocide of the Kurdish people in norther Iraq
3)Oil they have it we need it if you dont think we dont then you can forget about asking your daddy for a car
4) Iraq did play a part in terriost activities not only on 911 but across the globe.
5)They would not hesitate about putting a gun to your head and shooting.
6)Iraq has invaded two countries in 30 years
7)Iraq has caused billions of dollars in enviromental damage

Wake up smell the coffee dont be lame think before you speak and get informed.

P.S. Do you actually think that they will not be a threat in the future if we don't act now. Stupid Mimes

By this reasoning, The world should go to war with America, too.
1) America DOES have chemical and biological weapons
2) America has been comiting genocide on the people of Iraq.
3) We have loads of minerals that the rest of the world wants, not to mention fertile soil.
4) America trained, funded and armed Usama Bin Laden.
5) America is full of gangs who wouldn't hesitate to put a gun to your head and shoot
6) America has invaded at least 5 countries in the past 20 years.
7) America has caused TRILLIONS of dollars of enviromental damage.

Oh,and on a side note, America is the only nation to ever use a weapon of mass destruction against another nation.

[Big-Boss-Man]

Some shithead flies airplanes into the WTC and Pentagon (and believe, I think that was the biggest tragedy I ever seen!) and Bush want to get them back (okay, I understand that) then Bush failed and thinks: "shit, I failed. Now I'm a loser, nobody may know that! You know what, I attack Iraq!". You, a year ago nobody was talking about Iraw, and know...

[JMHX]

At 3/7/03 03:32 PM, FrankTheTank wrote: France and Germany are against war because they hav business ties to Iraq.

France isn't getting involved for the same reason (or part of the reason we are): business and oil. Heh...I just can't like the French at all.

And to the American Revolution thing: anyone who doesn't know France did it just to spite the Brits needs to read more than a school history book.

[RoboTripper]

At 3/7/03 07:06 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

And to the American Revolution thing: anyone who doesn't know France did it just to spite the Brits needs to read more than a school history book.

I wasn't talking about WHY the French helped us. Nobody was. Does their motives mean their contribution was any less? And our motivation to liberate France didn't have anything to do with our love of the French, it was because they happened to be the best way to get to Germany.

[JMHX]

At 3/7/03 07:23 PM, DenkSmoker wrote:

At 3/7/03 07:06 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

I wasn't talking about WHY the French helped us. Nobody was. Does their motives mean their contribution was any less? And our motivation to liberate France didn't have anything to do with our love of the French, it was because they happened to be the best way to get to Germany.

Nothing's ever done out of goodness of the heart anymore. Or ever. It's all a sham.

[IndecentXposure]

At 3/7/03 06:42 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

At 3/7/03 03:26 PM, panik wrote: I've been thinking about this and why would France and Germany be so against going to war with Iraq. If you think about it they must have some connection with Iraq .I think that they gave weapons to Iraq and now they are just Stalling for time in the UN so that they can clean up the evidence before the US and Great Britain get in there. Think about it why would these two relativly small political and military powers be so against taking out a dictator with bio and chemical weapons.I dont think the French are against the war beacuse they are peace loving or that they are ungrateful, limp wristed, don't hurt me please take my country pussies (which they are), they are just stalling so they dont get caught. Why eles would they turn their back on the US who saved their asses. And Germany doesn't want anything to do with war since there last two failures WWI and WWII that and they don't want to get caught either.

And for you stupid Hippies out there God your lame, why dont you stop being so nieve and watch the news once and a while. Here are some things you probably dont know because you live in some carebear fantasy land:
1) Iraq does have chemical and bio weapons
2) Iraq has been commiting Genocide of the Kurdish people in norther Iraq
3)Oil they have it we need it if you dont think we dont then you can forget about asking your daddy for a car
4) Iraq did play a part in terriost activities not only on 911 but across the globe.
5)They would not hesitate about putting a gun to your head and shooting.
6)Iraq has invaded two countries in 30 years
7)Iraq has caused billions of dollars in enviromental damage

Wake up smell the coffee dont be lame think before you speak and get informed.

P.S. Do you actually think that they will not be a threat in the future if we don't act now. Stupid Mimes

By this reasoning, The world should go to war with America, too.
1) America DOES have chemical and biological weapons
2) America has been comiting genocide on the people of Iraq.
3) We have loads of minerals that the rest of the world wants, not to mention fertile soil.
4) America trained, funded and armed Usama Bin Laden.
5) America is full of gangs who wouldn't hesitate to put a gun to your head and shoot
6) America has invaded at least 5 countries in the past 20 years.
7) America has caused TRILLIONS of dollars of enviromental damage.

Nobody would stand a chance against America. I'm not just saying that because im American but because i understand the capabilities of our military.
1.Prove it. If we do, have we ever used them?
2.We have aided countries in the past who have commited genocide but once again throw some facts out there and maybe your thread will have more credibility.
3.Come and get it.
4.The U.S armed, funded and trained Afghan rebels against the soviets which went straight to Usama. The soviets were known as the greater threat and this was before we knew Usama was a threat. Would we really train someone that hated America?
5. Ive always had a simple solution, deport them to Mexico orrr Canada. The minority gangs in America contribute to about 85% of all crime related incidents each year but you dont have to worry about them unless you are in a rival gang or if your walking down the street of Compton or Harlem at night.
7. Thats not the point. The point is Iraq has had 12 years and 17 resolutions to disarm. Times up, we will disarm them for them.
8. America has caused enviromental damage, but so have just about every Westernized country in the world. I don't know much about environmental damage but if i had to guess i would say the U.S pays for it...but im a little confused, who puts a price on environmental damage? Trillions(hmmm i dont know about that)

[IndecentXposure]

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At 3/7/03 09:12 PM, IndecentXposure wrote:

At 3/7/03 06:42 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

At 3/7/03 03:26 PM, panik wrote: I've been thinking about this and why would France and Germany be so against going to war with Iraq. If you think about it they must have some connection with Iraq .I think that they gave weapons to Iraq and now they are just Stalling for time in the UN so that they can clean up the evidence before the US and Great Britain get in there. Think about it why would these two relativly small political and military powers be so against taking out a dictator with bio and chemical weapons.I dont think the French are against the war beacuse they are peace loving or that they are ungrateful, limp wristed, don't hurt me please take my country pussies (which they are), they are just stalling so they dont get caught. Why eles would they turn their back on the US who saved their asses. And Germany doesn't want anything to do with war since there last two failures WWI and WWII that and they don't want to get caught either.

And for you stupid Hippies out there God your lame, why dont you stop being so nieve and watch the news once and a while. Here are some things you probably dont know because you live in some carebear fantasy land:
1) Iraq does have chemical and bio weapons
2) Iraq has been commiting Genocide of the Kurdish people in norther Iraq
3)Oil they have it we need it if you dont think we dont then you can forget about asking your daddy for a car
4) Iraq did play a part in terriost activities not only on 911 but across the globe.
5)They would not hesitate about putting a gun to your head and shooting.
6)Iraq has invaded two countries in 30 years
7)Iraq has caused billions of dollars in enviromental damage

Wake up smell the coffee dont be lame think before you speak and get informed.

P.S. Do you actually think that they will not be a threat in the future if we don't act now. Stupid Mimes

By this reasoning, The world should go to war with America, too.
1) America DOES have chemical and biological weapons
2) America has been comiting genocide on the people of Iraq.
3) We have loads of minerals that the rest of the world wants, not to mention fertile soil.
4) America trained, funded and armed Usama Bin Laden.
5) America is full of gangs who wouldn't hesitate to put a gun to your head and shoot
6) America has invaded at least 5 countries in the past 20 years.
7) America has caused TRILLIONS of dollars of enviromental damage.

Nobody would stand a chance against America. I'm not just saying that because im American but because i understand the capabilities of our military.
1.Prove it. If we do, have we ever used them?
2.We have aided countries in the past who have commited genocide but once again throw some facts out there and maybe your thread will have more credibility.
3.Come and get it.
4.The U.S armed, funded and trained Afghan rebels against the soviets which went straight to Usama. The soviets were known as the greater threat and this was before we knew Usama was a threat. Would we really train someone that hated America?
5. Ive always had a simple solution, deport them to Mexico orrr Canada. The minority gangs in America contribute to about 85% of all crime related incidents each year but you dont have to worry about them unless you are in a rival gang or if your walking down the street of Compton or Harlem at night.
7. Thats not the point. The point is Iraq has had 12 years and 17 resolutions to disarm. Times up, we will disarm them for them.
8. America has caused enviromental damage, but so have just about every Westernized country in the world. I don't know much about environmental damage but if i had to guess i would say the U.S pays for it...but im a little confused, who puts a price on environmental damage? Trillions(hmmm i dont know about that)

1) You admit it.
2) We bombed asprin factories in Iraq, as well as de-salinization plants. Without those plants, Iraq has no fresh water, and the plants had to be re-built at HUGE expense. As many as 8 million people died from dehydration in Iraq because of your actions.
Also, America has a food embargo on Iraq, although they don't admit it.
3) That wasn't the point. He said Iraq has oil and we want it.
America has wheat and the rest of the world wants it, Does that mean they should declare war?
4) You also funded the likes of Pol Pot, Manuel Noriaga, Ngo Dinh Diem....
5)I agree, something needs to be done about gangs, but Bush is too concerned about killing Arab women and children he has no time to protect ours.
6) America has a huge arsenal of Nukes, and we are the only nation to ever use one. Iraq has some cheapass nukes from the 60s if any at all. They are no threat to us.
7) Yes, Trillions of dollars of enviromental damage has been caused by the US.
The "price" of that sort of damage is measured by the cost to clean it up.

[iWalker]

At 3/7/03 03:26 PM, panik wrote: I've been thinking about this and why would France and Germany be so against going to war with Iraq. If you think about it they must have some connection with Iraq .I think that they gave weapons to Iraq and now they are just Stalling for time in the UN so that they can clean up the evidence before the US and Great Britain get in there.

Hey hate to break it to you but in fact germany, France and belgium and russia have business ties with iraq. furthermore have Russia france, belgium AND THE USA donated weapons to iraq
yeah the USA donated weapons to Sadam but that's something the americans tend to forget

:Think about it why would these two relativly small political and military powers be so against taking out a dictator with bio and chemical weapons.

relativly small ... hahaha you underestimate the european defence forces ... you just wait 'till the nation armies are abolished and replace for an european army ...

:I dont think the French are against the war beacuse they are peace loving or that they are ungrateful, limp wristed, don't hurt me please take my country pussies (which they are), they are just stalling so they dont get caught. Why eles would they turn their back on the US who saved their asses.

oh god there's the war again ... hey i've got news for you THE WAR IS OVER it has been for over 50 years.
ok take the eternal gratefullness you seem to want. remember your independancy ... do you really think you could win from the english without the help of the french??? NO ... so don't turn your back on them.

:And Germany doesn't want anything to do with war since there last two failures WWI and WWII that and they don't want to get caught either.

yeah everybody in europe experienced modern war. that's the problem with you americans you've never experienced a modern war on your territory ... if you had maybe you would think different.

And for you stupid Hippies out there God your lame, why dont you stop being so nieve and watch the news once and a while. Here are some things you probably dont know because you live in some carebear fantasy land:

man i watch the news like twice a day (on different channels)

1) Iraq does have chemical and bio weapons

a)no REAL proof of that
b)so does america ... do we have to invade the states? don't think so.

2) Iraq has been commiting Genocide of the Kurdish people in norther Iraq

ok. you're talking about the kurds ... BOOHOO what about the kurds who are slaughtered in Turkey, what about the chechenes (or whatever it is in english) in russia, what about the berbers in morocco what about the hutu's and the tutsi's in congo, ruanda & uganda?
you guys are going to have a lot of work
oh and what about the indians in america?

:3)Oil they have it we need it if you dont think we dont then you can forget about asking your daddy for a car

haha the war is for oil true. some notes though
a) you have your own oil fields.
b) who has an economical boycot against iraq thus preventing the oil to be bought by americans? RIGHT!
you want the oil? shouldn't have started the boycott.

4) Iraq did play a part in terriost activities not only on 911 but across the globe.

ok once again NO PROOF
what is proven though is that many of the funds of al qaeda comes from saudi-arabia (just as Osama btw). so why don't you attack saudi-arabia then? ah yeah i forgot you choose to ally with Osama because you both hate and both want to destroy a somewhat socialist state. you couldn't destroy Stalin so you go after a look-alike of him *grin*

5)They would not hesitate about putting a gun to your head and shooting.

euhm neither would the euhm what land is it again where all these teenage kids shoot around in their schools o yeah america

6)Iraq has invaded two countries in 30 years

ahahahaha how many countries have the US invaded in 30 years?

7)Iraq has caused billions of dollars in enviromental damage

oh and how much damage in environmental damage has G.W. Bush done by rejecting the ecological pact like the one in kyoto? take a guess.

Wake up smell the coffee dont be lame think before you speak and get informed.

damn you're stupid ...

P.S. Do you actually think that they will not be a threat in the future if we don't act now. Stupid Mimes

actually i think they might be a threat in the future if you don't act now ... but if you make up proof give us real proof not fake.

[Ted-Easton]

The combined might of the Poltics BBS has come to bear on Panik, and he can't stand up to the withering firepower!

[Commander-K25]

At 3/7/03 10:59 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: The combined might of the Poltics BBS has come to bear on Panik, and he can't stand up to the withering firepower!

The mighty, overbearing weight of the ignorant?

The withering firepower of blind leftism?

[JMHX]

At 3/8/03 01:29 AM, Commander-K25 wrote:

At 3/7/03 10:59 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: The combined might of the Poltics BBS has come to bear on Panik, and he can't stand up to the withering firepower!

The mighty, overbearing weight of the ignorant?

The withering firepower of blind leftism?

We're not blind. The blindfold is just over our right eye.

[MonkeyMan-Inc]

What the fuck? Why does Bush want war so much with Iraq. Because they have oil. Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction once so ever. We didn't find shit. What about North Korea they have nukes, they have wepons of mass destruction. Why is Bush tring to go the diplomatic route. Because they don't have oil.I think America is full of shitheads that can't think for themselves. I'm also so American so don't say shit about me not knowing about Bushes goals. If you don't think Bush wants oil look at our economy. If he gets Iraq the oil prices will go down making people buy more gas making the economy go up.

[Slizor]

Commander! Decided to come back for good? I've been missing some decent opposition.

[NEMESiSZ]

BOYCOTT NEWGROUNDS FORUMS

[Ted-Easton]

Oh? Commander was once a regular here?
My greetings, sir.