Forum Topic: Clock Crew evil?

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Posted at: 3/7/03 12:33 AM

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We try to support the clocks, but are some of them evil? I got this disturbing email, and then saw Zen, who is associated with the clocks, won daily feature. Not sure if he deserved to or not, haven't watched it yet. Check it out:

"I have been spammed all day with IMs from so many different clocks to vote 5 on
Atomic Bar Episode 3 and telling me to vote 0 on Uniwar and other good entries.
I think that Uniwar was treated unfairly because I know some of the clocks used
IP Spoofing software to vote maliciously to gain Daily Feature. Please
reconsider this."

I am gathering more evidence, but we might have to pull the plug on some of the clocks...


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Jaha

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Posted at: 3/7/03 12:36 AM

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Could the clock reign be over?


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Posted at: 3/7/03 12:37 AM

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well I will say that the clocks are power in numbers online... (I am not a member of any crew BTW) But I was just thinking before I even saw this topic.. that the NG community would be like an online army. Hypothetically if Tom or Wade told everyone to flame someone online.. that person would probably die from it being so overwhelming... JAJAJ


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At 3/7/03 12:37 AM, mattymetro wrote: well I will say that the clocks are power in numbers online... (I am not a member of any crew BTW) But I was just thinking before I even saw this topic.. that the NG community would be like an online army. Hypothetically if Tom or Wade told everyone to flame someone online.. that person would probably die from it being so overwhelming... JAJAJ

very true. it has been done before. remember the super bowl poll thing?

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Any clock that uses an IP spoofer to vote 5 on their own movies, or tells people to vote down on other people's work isn't a real clock. I haven't been seeing anyone tell people to vote 0 on movies, most people have been telling me to vote five on it. The only bad reviews for it are the idiots rating it a two and saying that it's a copy-off of Star Fox.


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WadeFulp

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Posted at: 3/7/03 12:42 AM

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Hopefully if someone did do this it was done without Zen and the other senior clocks knowing about it. If someone is IP spoofing to vote DOWN entries, that's pretty shitty.

Uhg, this has been a rough day. I've been dealing with to many issues. I'm going to bed. :)


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At 3/7/03 12:33 AM, WadeFulp wrote: "I have been spammed all day with IMs from so many different clocks to vote 5 on
Atomic Bar Episode 3 and telling me to vote 0 on Uniwar and other good entries.
I think that Uniwar was treated unfairly because I know some of the clocks used
IP Spoofing software to vote maliciously to gain Daily Feature. Please
reconsider this."

That sounds a bit exaggerated, doesn't it? I found the link to Zen's movie through the clock BBS, and no demands were placed on me on how I wanted to vote. I didn't receive any IMs at all about the movie, either. I think it was advertised fairly well on the CC BBS as it was. (It had its own sticky for awhile)

It's possible that a clock (or clocks) might have used IP spoofing software, but no names were given in the e-mail... just "some of the clocks"?


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i doubt they would go through the trouble of ip spoofing, however if they had a few do not represent the whole. i have never been spammed by the CC myself, but I have the feeling he deserved it anyhow.


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At 3/7/03 12:33 AM, WadeFulp wrote: We try to support the clocks, but are some of them evil? I got this disturbing email, and then saw Zen...

this cant be true. this must be WADE FULP PROPOGANDA! jk w/ u wade, thats pretty messed up though. i hope its not true.


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At 3/7/03 12:33 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

I am gathering more evidence, but we might have to pull the plug on some of the clocks...

hahahaha! I garuntee this topic will reach 10 pages.


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Zen or atomic clock had nothing to do with this man
Atomic bar 3 is a very good movie if you haven’t noticed
All of the atomic bar episodes are show cased in the clock crew collection section! I don’t know about those other clocks that were aiming you...


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At 3/7/03 12:50 AM, Digital_Chameleon wrote:
At 3/7/03 12:33 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

I am gathering more evidence, but we might have to pull the plug on some of the clocks...
hahahaha! I garuntee this topic will reach 10 pages.

YUP LOL :D


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At 3/7/03 12:42 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Hopefully if someone did do this it was done without Zen and the other senior clocks knowing about it. If someone is IP spoofing to vote DOWN entries, that's pretty shitty.

Just when you think the clock crew's reputation is improving... lol... something like this comes along. =\


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No shite. Dammit, things were just starting to go smooth. Well, pulling the plug on "some" clocks might be neccessary, in the God-forbid chance that all this is true. Anyone pulling crap like that at least needs a temporary ban, at least for several months. Few things can piss me off like having a 5 taken from me.

Clock Crew evil?

I must lollerskate on this matter.


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At 3/7/03 12:42 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Hopefully if someone did do this it was done without Zen and the other senior clocks knowing about it. If someone is IP spoofing to vote DOWN entries, that's pretty shitty.

Uhg, this has been a rough day. I've been dealing with to many issues. I'm going to bed. :)

Yeah, I was going to comment from the three threads I've read, you've really been putting in some think time today, well I understand, I've been burned out lately too, school, work, the personal life. Well, I hope this all works out, wouldn't be the first time we've heard of something like this happening...hope it turns out to be nothing, but if there is something to it, I think the parties responsible need to be kicked out of here, I do not agree with such dishonest voting practices in the least.

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Yeah, A bunch of 12 year olds are really evil.


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Tropicana

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Sad thing is its also ran by one 12 year old >:(
and the rest are older


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At 3/7/03 12:39 AM, wafflemeister wrote: Any clock that uses an IP spoofer to vote 5 on their own movies, or tells people to vote down on other people's work isn't a real clock. I haven't been seeing anyone tell people to vote 0 on movies, most people have been telling me to vote five on it. The only bad reviews for it are the idiots rating it a two and saying that it's a copy-off of Star Fox.

that's true. there's a thread saying that atomic bar 3 was released, but i've seen no threads at all EVER saying to vote low on any movies.


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well all of the AB movies are real good
I think the latest one deserves DF
even though I put in the password and I still didnt get the matrix ending

Clock Crew evil?

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I guess I will post this before I go to bed.
Someone IMed me asking to vote 5, since it was the first time and they never said something like "do it shithead" even after I kept questioning thema nd being annoying I did vote the 5 they wanted me to. That is the only acoount I know....then again my aim has been off becuse someone is spamming me for talking about haveing 2k+ blams. they said I have no life, yet they insist to spam me whenever I go on lol what irony.


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I say treat any user fairly, clocks or whatever. If someone is doing what they shouldn't do and you catch them at it, deal with them. Just because someone is part of a crew doesn't mean they'll go with the usual crew behavior. I hear most of the clocks are good people. These other "poser clocks" are usually the trouble makers. I might not like some of the movies I've seen, and I won't join the CC, but I don't mind some of the people.

My Beef with the whole Clock Crew is mainly that people just join to belong. They don't contribute anything. (I'm not saying all ppes are this way but alot are. Do the math you'll see I'm right) Then it becomes a popularity thing. Then they'll wanna blam movies of Anti-Clocks even if the movies are good. And then the other way around. Anti-Clocks in turn try to blam the Clock stuff, even if it's good. So, I really am against the Clock Crew because the whole thing seems too turn into something like a Gang War. Which is why I don't want members of my production team joining any groups. This is why I threw the fit NippleClock. It was hard for me to get it out in the right words.

I make Anti-Clock parodies. I'm not hateful with it. I do get fussy over my views at times. All my friends know it. But, once I calm down and think, things turn out all right. I think the Clock Crew needs to find their trouble makers and keep them under control. Threatening to ban them might work. Or it might not. Then you'd have to ban or even kill their accounts. Kinda harsh but some people don't learn.


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I have recieved about 3 IM's telling me to vote 5 on atomic bar, saying that they want to beat the compeditors. I created half of uniwar and submitted it and it pisses me off really, if the movie was good, i wouldn't mind at all, in fact i wouldn't even mind if the movie was "ok" and won by honest votes.

This one clock told me that they vote on movies with proxies to hide there identity and to allow them to vote more then once.

Wade, look at the vote and view number between both movies, if you have a log, check the scores between the movies, surely this would be enough proof.


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The clock crew isnt evil and a matter of fact i just became a clock today....most people on their forum are nice. I hope they werent doing this with the knowledge of good clocks....there are good and bad clocks just like there are good and bad people...... :-)

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I just talked to my cousin who works for a major ISP and he was telling me that ISPs are cracking down on people using those things and that one ISP (not the one he works for, but maybe soon) bans members that use that material. In some countries they are probably illegal.


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At 3/7/03 12:54 AM, TropicanaClock wrote:
At 3/7/03 12:50 AM, Digital_Chameleon wrote: hahahaha! I garuntee this topic will reach 10 pages.
YUP LOL :D

Nope!


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At 3/7/03 01:39 PM, MagicalMusicalizax wrote:
At 3/7/03 12:54 AM, TropicanaClock wrote:
At 3/7/03 12:50 AM, Digital_Chameleon wrote: hahahaha! I garuntee this topic will reach 10 pages.
YUP LOL :D
Nope!

ure a meany :'(

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What is IP spoofing? Is that what you called it?

I'm not looking for deatails, just the one line summary. Because I'm getting the gust that something bad happened, but I don't understand WHAT is was.


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That doesnt really make the clock crew evil does it? they make some pretty good flash in my opinion.


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Some of them are good, but most of them are up to know good.


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