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Why didn't they just spend more time training how to fight and lift weights? Then go to school and kick the shit out of those boys who were pissing them off. You'd be surprised at how many bullies turn out to be pussies, once you stand up to them.

I find it a lot more satisfying breaking someone's nose who tried to bully me, than going around picking on small animals and siblings or cutting yourself.

At 8/28/06 02:12 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 8/28/06 02:07 PM, Proud_American wrote: How many kids are bullied daily? You can guess, a lot. Now out of these millions of bullied kids, how many go on a rampage and shoot up their school?

Idiot

So what? Just because the majority of bullied kids bottles it up and gets upset but doesn't shoot people, doesn't mean that there's not a shitload of other people to blame for Columbine.

I never said that it was just their fault, bad parenting, stupid gun sellers selling guns to minors.

Really. It doesn't. That's like saying, "loads of people do drugs, and most don't go mad, so if you get a mental illness from them, then it's your fault and I give you no sympathy."

I fail to see the similarities between drugs and killing people

At 8/28/06 02:32 PM, Proud_American wrote: I fail to see the similarities between drugs and killing people

Drugs and BULLYING. Bullying can fuck your brain up, too, and if you're already pre-disposed to being depressed or suicidal or have psychotic episodes or whatever, bullying will worsen it, and being in a hostile school environment and getting slapped about by footballers who the teachers love and don't punish will kind of fuck up your moral standings on the value of man. They didn't particularly like that they were shooting the school up, if you know what I mean, as is evidenced by them committing suicide at the end of it. They knew it was their last day and had nothing more to live for.

I was NOT drawing a parallel between doing drugs and killing people. I love drugs.

Would someone mind please uploading it to Youtube, or somewhere else with a flash video player?

My computer crashes on any sort of video thats not run in flash.

At 8/28/06 02:39 PM, mistasmijen wrote: Would someone mind please uploading it to Youtube, or somewhere else with a flash video player?

My computer crashes on any sort of video thats not run in flash.

I really don't think youtube would appreciate that.

Wow. That was horrible. Hearing the girls scream was just terrifying. But the date says 2001 it happened in 1999.

this isnt the columbine shooting.

The columbine shooting happned 4/20 1999.

This is probably a reinacment by some kids for a school project or something.

I realized thatwhen you see them kill themselves, because in a picture it shows them by a library book aisle dead.

God thats disgusting to see, it's so sickening but in a way thats just unexplainable. Just really horrible. How calm and everything they are.

At 8/28/06 02:45 PM, SaviorSorrow wrote: this isnt the columbine shooting.

Indeed, when I downloaded it, the filename was 'columbinemassacrewannabe.wmv'.

At 8/28/06 02:32 PM, Proud_American wrote: I fail to see the similarities between drugs and killing people

What always crosses my mind when I hear about things like this is how different the mindset must have been compared to ours today.

Think about it this way Proud_American. If you went up and got a gun and went to school and killed a handful of kids, you wouldn't be able to live with yourself. Essentially, your mind takes that and sees it as wrong.

Your thoughts, therefore, shouldn't be of hatred for the boys, or hopes that they burn in hell. What I think about is what state of mind they must have been in to go through with their actions.

You're thinking two dimensionally. How their actions relate to your actions. But that's not how it works. For some reason, shooting up their school seemed like the right thing to do.

"Shooting up their school seemed like the right thing to do."

Now why/how would that end up being the case?

And the whole "plenty of kids get bullied, and none of them do this" argument is equally empty, because the simple truth becomes then, "plenty of kids get bullied, and none of them do this, so they obviously weren't in quite the same situation."

I could never blame someone for how their mind recycles reality into thought. That, to me, is insane.

I accept people are different, and different minds having gone through different crucibles will do different things.

Sometimes that means shooting up your school.

Though, thankfully, it rarely does.

Fuck I'm gonna regret watching that. That lady on the phone or whatever didn't seem very eager to help anyone....what a bitch

At 8/28/06 03:13 PM, Viper7070 wrote: Fuck I'm gonna regret watching that. That lady on the phone or whatever didn't seem very eager to help anyone....what a bitch

Its a fake video R-tard.

At 8/28/06 03:15 PM, SaviorSorrow wrote:

At 8/28/06 03:13 PM, Viper7070 wrote: Fuck I'm gonna regret watching that. That lady on the phone or whatever didn't seem very eager to help anyone....what a bitch

Its a fake video R-tard.

Dude, shut up.

They sounded so paniced, this can't be fake.

Terrible.

At 8/28/06 03:16 PM, Soragu wrote: They sounded so paniced, this can't be fake.

With the filename and some expert saying the lying places aren't real, I'd think it is. It might have authentic sound over the top, but yeaaah probably fake.

Ogrish only have two pictures of the shooters dead. I'm not sure whether full unedited footage is in the public domain.

At 8/28/06 03:16 PM, Soragu wrote:

At 8/28/06 03:15 PM, SaviorSorrow wrote:

At 8/28/06 03:13 PM, Viper7070 wrote: Fuck I'm gonna regret watching that. That lady on the phone or whatever didn't seem very eager to help anyone....what a bitch

Its a fake video R-tard.

Dude, shut up.

They sounded so paniced, this can't be fake.

you can eailytell how fake it is, when they commit suicide, you see no gore or blood fly out of there heads. If you commitsuicide by shooting your brain through the mouth with a shotgun and if you shoot yourself in the right temple with a carbine, there is bound to be alot of gore and blood..and there was none.

At 8/28/06 03:15 PM, SaviorSorrow wrote:

At 8/28/06 03:13 PM, Viper7070 wrote: Fuck I'm gonna regret watching that. That lady on the phone or whatever didn't seem very eager to help anyone....what a bitch

Its a fake video R-tard.

How the hell would you know, were you there?

i have pondered shooting up my school a lot of times, but never got the money/reasons why.
Maybe this year will be different and i will get humiliated/bullyd so yeah, id go down in history in a pretty kickass way.
I also will be bringing molotovs : D

At 8/28/06 03:19 PM, Earfetish wrote: Ogrish only have two pictures of the shooters dead. I'm not sure whether full unedited footage is in the public domain.

Yeah, when the two guys 'shot themselves' at the end there was no visible blood. I think. Anyway, still a pretty weird video, even if it is re-inacted :(.

At 8/28/06 01:53 PM, redface wrote:

At 8/28/06 01:45 PM, Scotttheskaterr wrote:

At 8/28/06 10:01 AM, Earfetish wrote: I bet it was just like playing Doom.

I dont get it. Why did those fuckers even do this?

I would appreciate it if you didn't insult them like that. What they did was pretty brutal, but they were misunderstood and tortured young boys, and they deserve a bit of sympathy.

Are you out of your mind, They KILLED 16 people and wounded many others. Nobody deserves that no matter how much they bully another person, Not to mention most of the people they gunned down didn't do single thing to them.

yum

At 8/28/06 03:33 PM, F00D wrote: yum

I hate you

At 8/28/06 03:33 PM, F00D wrote: yum

how very random, congradulations.

Alright, well still even if it isnt Columbine, it's still a bit...over the top of disturbing footage. I don't think it's fake either.

At 8/28/06 03:27 PM, Lagrance wrote: i have pondered shooting up my school a lot of times, but never got the money/reasons why.
Maybe this year will be different and i will get humiliated/bullyd so yeah, id go down in history in a pretty kickass way.
I also will be bringing molotovs : D

If you're being serious you are one sick fuck.

Damn that's some fucked up shit man, it was like a movie, seeing those kids try to run and seeing them get shot in the back...

I wish there really was a hell, so those fuckers could rot in it.

I don't feel good... I feel pretty sick. I'm gonna barf now. Jesus Christ, that's awful. More awful than the guy from Europe who burned his cat.

At 8/28/06 03:43 PM, buddycuffs wrote: Alright, well still even if it isnt Columbine, it's still a bit...over the top of disturbing footage. I don't think it's fake either.

Maybe its a different school shooting.

That video is fake, or a re-enactment..

The two gunmen didnt kill themselves at the same time, Eric shot the other kid, then shot himself, they didnt do it kneeling, plus their bodies fell different ways to the video.

Also, when the guy shoots the people under the table, in reality, he broke his nose from the recoil, then laughed out loud with blood down his face. That didnt happen in this video.

Fake.

At 8/28/06 03:20 PM, SaviorSorrow wrote: you can eailytell how fake it is, when they commit suicide, you see no gore or blood fly out of there heads. If you commitsuicide by shooting your brain through the mouth with a shotgun and if you shoot yourself in the right temple with a carbine, there is bound to be alot of gore and blood..and there was none.

This possibly could have been an awareness video project of maybe what to do in case of a school shooting. Everyone was just running in pretty orderly straight lines and there was no blood, as you said. Also, the way the video footage was edited, let alone how the footage would get out, was somewhat of a give away.

However, the message was powerful and the actions were pretty graphic, wheather it's real or not.