Forum Topic: Attn: I Am Not An Idea Thief!

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Sir-Davey

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Posted at: 8/22/06 10:54 AM

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I have recently stumbled upon this game. You might wonder why at the moment, but I was utterly disgusted and disappointed when I saw this game.

Why? Because I've also got a Super Smash Bros. Flash remake in development! In fact, here is what I've been working on. I know it took me some time between the original idea day, and what I've got now, but I had forgotten about the project until 4 days ago.

Anyways, I would like to say that on Lock Day 2007, when this game comes out, please don't call me unoriginal and say "already done". Because:
1) I've had the idea for this long before that "Super Smash Flash" game came out
2) Mine will most likely not have any copyrighted material and will all be original Lock artwork
3) Mine will most likely be much better both in control and in dynamism

Also, I noticed that this games screams "STOLEN MUSIC AND GRAPHICS". Is it really supposed to be allowed in the ArmorGames contest? Doesn't the contest page say:
"The games must be original and CANNOT have anything to do with copyrighted materials. Games cannot have anything to do with (Nintendo, Sony, Lord of the Rings, King Author, etc) Games must be new, unique and original. Music must also not be Non-copyrighted. Your games must NOT contain music from any copyrighted soundtrack, muscian or artist."

PS: I do not plan on submitting MY future game to the ArmorGames contest.


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KaynSlamdyke

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Posted at: 8/22/06 10:58 AM

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At 8/22/06 10:54 AM, Sir-Davey wrote: Because I've also got a Super Smash Bros. Flash remake in development!
Anyways, I would like to say that on Lock Day 2007, when this game comes out, please don't call me unoriginal and say "already done"...

How can you accuse any of us ever calling you unoriginal for taking a preexisting game idea and making a Flash version of it?

Also, I noticed that this games screams "STOLEN MUSIC AND GRAPHICS". Is it really supposed to be allowed in the ArmorGames contest?...

Contact Inglor about this one directly. Hopefully, he already knows

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Sir-Davey

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Posted at: 8/22/06 11:02 AM

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At 8/22/06 10:58 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: How can you accuse any of us ever calling you unoriginal for taking a preexisting game idea and making a Flash version of it?

I'm not accusing anyone, I'm just saying it in advance so at least the people who read this topic won't leave an angry review.


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patu1

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Posted at: 8/22/06 11:08 AM

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what makes you think that an of as wuld remember his game or your post ?

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johnfn

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Posted at: 8/22/06 11:09 AM

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At 8/22/06 11:02 AM, Sir-Davey wrote:
At 8/22/06 10:58 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: How can you accuse any of us ever calling you unoriginal for taking a preexisting game idea and making a Flash version of it?
I'm not accusing anyone, I'm just saying it in advance so at least the people who read this topic won't leave an angry review.

Yeah, but there are tons of people who will see your flash and wont have seen this thread...


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CorkySurprise

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Posted at: 8/22/06 11:20 AM

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"The games must be original and CANNOT have anything to do with copyrighted materials. Games cannot have anything to do with (Nintendo, Sony, Lord of the Rings, King Author, etc) Games must be new, unique and original. Music must also not be Non-copyrighted. Your games must NOT contain music from any copyrighted soundtrack, muscian or artist."

True,if it was entered into the contest, then it would be breaking the rules, almost everyone infact, however, It might have just been sponsored - it may have not been entered.


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elmicah

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Posted at: 8/22/06 11:26 AM

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Sir Davey, thats a nice engine you got there, why don't you just get some original artwork with original characters done for it, maybe popular newgrounds ones, then it won't be considered idea stealing.


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Posted at: 8/22/06 11:28 AM

I'm not accusing anyone, I'm just saying it in advance so at least the people who read this topic won't leave an angry review.

Even if you didn't say that I always try to put out helpful reviews. I have got bad reviews before and its annoying.


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Sir-Davey

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Posted at: 8/23/06 09:40 AM

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At 8/22/06 11:09 AM, johnfn wrote: Yeah, but there are tons of people who will see your flash and wont have seen this thread...

Well I guess whatever people I can get to read this is good enough.

Lol bump

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Paranoia

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Posted at: 8/23/06 09:43 AM

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You should probably worry more about this when you submit it. By then most people will probably have forgotten about the thing you stole the idea from anyway (loljk <3).

Nice move with the thread, though. If you keep the URL saved somewhere you can always refer people who accuse you of stealing back to it.

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TrueDarkness

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Posted at: 8/23/06 10:14 AM

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Add a little disclaimer in the beginning of your flash explaining that this project has been in the works for such and such date, and is not a rip off of super smash flash.

And let me also agree with you, on how BAD, super smash flash was. I mean, I gave it a 7/10, being generous. It is completely undeserving. The controls are terrible, loads of bugs, un smooth, only two controls for jumping and attacking, and it just plain sucks ..::Truth::..


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Void24

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Posted at: 8/23/06 01:53 PM

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I was wondering the same thing about the armor games contest. So far "Zombie Survival: SM" has apparently won money, but it is made almost entirely from pieces of Metal Slug games. Does Armor Games not know this? or are they being forgiving about that particular rule?

And about the poster's game: Amazing work so far! VERY fluid, with good controls. I'm sure with original art you will not have any problems at all. I look forward to seeing this finished.

-Nic Daniel (www.nicdaniel.com)


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Posted at: 8/23/06 03:13 PM

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It seems like a lot of people are working on games that borrow from the Smash Bros formula right now. None of them are copying each other when the idea originated from Smash Bros. Smash Bros is the only one that can be credited as such.

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