Rub the belly. Yeah, that's good...

[Brownie210]

I got a freind who has for a while been trying to convert to Buddhism. He's not the greatest though, i.e. doesn't always thank the animal who died so he can now eat them (or something like that) before eating meat, tries to tell everyone to be mellow but then gets pissed himself, little stuff I guess. Anyways, I'm thinking he's aiming to be some sort of hippie-Buddhist, Buddha in name but not the right "essence" if you get my drift. Just wondering though, is Buddhism pretty cool or does rubben the belly get akward at times?

Dude, this is some awesome karma...

[Sinthe]

Your friend probably just needs a little time. It can take awhile to change that much.

[TheLastKrispyKreme]

Here's a Question, What was his previous religion?

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 8/20/06 07:21 PM, Brownie_210 wrote: Dude, this is some awesome karma...

Well, seeing as Buddhists are pretty much the only religious group not to kill people because they belong to another religious group I think all believers should convert

[YHWH]

At 8/20/06 08:24 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote:
Well, seeing as Buddhists are pretty much the only religious group not to kill people because they belong to another religious group I think all believers should convert

I hope that part about religious groups killing another person was sarcasm.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 8/20/06 08:31 PM, Peternormous wrote: I hope that part about religious groups killing another person was sarcasm.

So sarcasm. I'm being serious.

[MrBibz]

original has a good point there, buddhism has a very peaceful history. Not to mention that budhism seems much much less restrictive than other religions. If the Simpsons is an accurate source in anyway, you can still practice other religions at the same time as long as they don't promote violence. I really need to study up on different religions though.

[YHWH]

But you just made a sweeping generalization of many religions and people.

I really don't feel the need to slaughter every person that's non-Christian, and none of my Jewish or Muslim friends have ever really wanted to kill me either. Way to be a dick.

Anywho,
I agree with a lot of practices of Buddhism. I kinda like the thought of reincarnation, but can't really seem to fit it in my own perception of Christianity.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 8/20/06 08:24 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote:

At 8/20/06 07:21 PM, Brownie_210 wrote:

Well, seeing as Buddhists are pretty much the only religious group not to kill people because they belong to another religious group I think all believers should convert

Is Budhism even a religion, I mean, it's like Confucism.

They don't actually worship anything, it's more of just a way to live rather then a set of laws towards one or mulitple dietys.

Except for the Budhists that actually worship Budha.

[Sinthe]

At 8/20/06 08:51 PM, Peternormous wrote: But you just made a sweeping generalization of many religions and people.

I really don't feel the need to slaughter every person that's non-Christian, and none of my Jewish or Muslim friends have ever really wanted to kill me either. Way to be a dick.

Read his post. He was talking about the history of the religions, and pretty much ALL of them have pretty bloody histories (at least, the big ones because those are the only ones that people know/care about). Nothing was said about every individual Christian/Muslim/Jew wanting to run out and murder people of other faiths.

[Freemind]

At 8/20/06 08:51 PM, Peternormous wrote: But you just made a sweeping generalization of many religions and people.

I really don't feel the need to slaughter every person that's non-Christian, and none of my Jewish or Muslim friends have ever really wanted to kill me either. Way to be a dick.

Well, he didn't say all people of other religions wanted to kill others. Just that buddists are the only ones who haven't in the past. Which could or could not be true. I don't really keep up on that sorta thing.

[Kenzu]

Buddhism is very cool indeed.

Not like *cough* Islam, Judaism or Christianity *cough*

I think being a Communist and Buddhist fits best.

[YHWH]

Oh, God. I thinkl that Kenzu is about to make another Communism thread.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 8/20/06 08:51 PM, Peternormous wrote: But you just made a sweeping generalization of many religions and people.

I really don't feel the need to slaughter every person that's non-Christian, and none of my Jewish or Muslim friends have ever really wanted to kill me either. Way to be a dick.

Christians Vs Jews, Jews Vs Muslims, Muslims Vs Christians, Hindus Vs Muslims.

Who Vs Buddhists?

I didn’t make a sweeping statement. I stated a fact, that people kill others because of their religion, not all people, just some.

[YHWH]

At 8/20/06 09:18 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote:
Christians Vs Jews, Jews Vs Muslims, Muslims Vs Christians, Hindus Vs Muslims.

Who Vs Buddhists?

I didn’t make a sweeping statement. I stated a fact, that people kill others because of their religion, not all people, just some.

Ok, I can agree with you on that. I thought you were suggesting that those who follow "A" religion must kill all "Non-A" religions, save Buddhists.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

Ok, I can agree with you on that. I thought you were suggesting that those who follow "A" religion must kill all "Non-A" religions, save Buddhists.

lol, I may have some negative views on religion but I’m not an “Angry Atheist”.

I only make animations about them.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 8/20/06 09:18 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote:

At 8/20/06 08:51 PM, Peternormous wrote:

Who Vs Buddhists?

I didn’t make a sweeping statement. I stated a fact, that people kill others because of their religion, not all people, just some.

The Buddhists have been oppressed, does that count.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 8/20/06 09:44 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 8/20/06 09:18 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote:

At 8/20/06 08:51 PM, Peternormous wrote:

Who Vs Buddhists?

I didn’t make a sweeping statement. I stated a fact, that people kill others because of their religion, not all people, just some.

The Buddhists have been oppressed, does that count.

Good point. But I was thinking along the lines of terrorist style violence being instigated by a specific religious group….which to my knowledge hasn’t been done by Buddhists.

What about Sikhs?

[Dragon-Smaug]

At 8/20/06 08:24 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote: Well, seeing as Buddhists are pretty much the only religious group not to kill people because they belong to another religious group I think all believers should convert

Judaism doesn't do that either.

But Buddhism is cool indeed.

[YHWH]

At 8/20/06 10:22 PM, Dragon_Smaug wrote:
Judaism doesn't do that either.

But Buddhism is cool indeed.

Judaism did. Read how the slaughtered everyone to get Israel.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 8/20/06 10:24 PM, Peternormous wrote: Judaism did. Read how the slaughtered everyone to get Israel.

Too true. The Jews have been at the brunt of religious violence for along time, not even counting this centuries holocaust. But there is blood on there hands too.

[Dragon-Smaug]

At 8/20/06 10:24 PM, Peternormous wrote:

At 8/20/06 10:22 PM, Dragon_Smaug wrote:
Judaism doesn't do that either.

But Buddhism is cool indeed.

Judaism did. Read how the slaughtered everyone to get Israel.

No, the Jews have never killed anyone for belonging to a different religion.

First of all, Israel is not only Jews, and second of all, Israel kills those who attack it, not those whose religion is different.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

So no Arabs were killed in the creation if Israel? They were all forcibly displaced peacefully.

[YHWH]

Read the first few books of the Old Testament. The Exodus from Egypt whipped some major ass to get thier land.

[Dash-Underscore-Dash]

Thank the animal that died? Fuck that. I laugh at it. Then I go out and kill another, JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 8/20/06 11:20 PM, lollerskaters wrote: Thank the animal that died? Fuck that. I laugh at it. Then I go out and kill another, JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT.

Can’t wait till karma comes around for you dude.

[Camarohusky]

At 8/20/06 08:44 PM, D-Bibz wrote: original has a good point there, buddhism has a very peaceful history. Not to mention that budhism seems much much less restrictive than other religions. If the Simpsons is an accurate source in anyway, you can still practice other religions at the same time as long as they don't promote violence. I really need to study up on different religions though.

The original Buddhism was meant to work within a religion. It was meant to coexist with the Hinduism of the time. Buddhism afterward began to become its own religion and soon began to absorb other religions rather than coexist. Buddhism would include other religons as either new branches on the Buddhist family tree (so to speak) or they said that the other gods were omnipotent forms of Buddhist gods.

[Brownie210]

Originally he was a baptist. According to him it was one of the crazy "we-hate-all" branches, and he just got tired of it. He does pretty well at spreading the message though, and hes a great trend setter to top it off. Example: He bought one of those one dollar zen gardens, now just about everyone has one (I enjoy cinnamon incense the most.....very mellow) at their homes or in their car (note: they put cling wrap over it to prevent sand from coming out and then strap it down somewhere toprevent it from going everywhere), needless to say, the incense trade here is booming.

Otherwise Buddhists have got the shaft several times in history. In more recent history: Vietnam back in the 60's, those guys don't just start themselves on fire for nothing, and Tibet in the 50's when the Maoists came marching to Tibet, forcing the Dally Llama (forgive spelling) and lots of Buddhists to flee persecution and enter a sort of exile.

But, seriously though, all this fighting about "my reigion would never do that" and "your teh stupid!" is just really bringing down this posts vibe...

Now where did I put that new incense pack....

[Dragon-Smaug]

At 8/20/06 10:40 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote: So no Arabs were killed in the creation if Israel? They were all forcibly displaced peacefully.

I will ignore the slanted implications of that sentence and instead focus on how it relates to my statement here:

The Jews have never killed anyone for belonging to a different religion.

I’ll grant you that at Israel’s conception it was almost all Jews. Now, even if you treat the entity Israel as Jews, they did not kill Arabs for being Muslim, or even for being Arab. They killed them when they tried to destroy the Israel state (some villages inside the boundaries of Israel as declared by the U.N. also tried to destroy the Jewish villages). In fact, those Arabs who didn’t mind living in Israel stayed on their land and became Israeli.

At 8/20/06 11:29 PM, KemCab wrote:

At 8/20/06 10:22 PM, Dragon_Smaug wrote: Judaism doesn't do that either.

That's just pure bias.

There isn't any religion where hasn't been spilled in its name.

Then prove me wrong. I’m open-minded, I can be proved wrong and admit it. I’m also not saying the Jews haven’t killed anyone, just not in the name of religion or for someone else belonging to another religion.

[YHWH]

Agh!

I am pro-Israel right now, don't get me wrong. I was saying that the Jews from Egypst whipped absolute ass to get wha they had in Biblical time, and I mean they opened a bucket of whoop ass on the Caananites, etc.