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Just ignore it... and let everyone worship there own imaginary men... I mean God.

At 8/17/06 08:42 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Short and Simple.

Before the coming of Christ, it was impossible to actually go into heaven, except for very few occasions(Elijah being one of them).

With the coming of Christ, and his sacrifice for our death(he knew he was going to die already, he rolled with us) he conquered everlasting death and gave us a chance for everlasting life with the father almighty.

Got it.

if thats true thats completly unfair, its not somebodies fault if they can't get into heaven just because they were born during a certain time period unless they are practically a saint. Complete bullshit

At 8/17/06 08:45 PM, Toocool100 wrote: if thats true thats completly unfair, its not somebodies fault if they can't get into heaven just because they were born during a certain time period unless they are practically a saint. Complete bullshit

Guess so. I suggest you look at Islam.

At 8/17/06 08:45 PM, Toocool100 wrote:

At 8/17/06 08:42 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

if thats true thats completly unfair, its not somebodies fault if they can't get into heaven just because they were born during a certain time period unless they are practically a saint. Complete bullshit

Matters.

If your were a good jew, then when Jesus decended into hell, he took them up with him.

If you were a good heathen, you stayed in Limbo.

Beliving the bible is just like beliving harry potter...

Cuz, he had to go to hell and open a can of whoop-ass.

Duh.

at 8/17/06 07:25 PM Toocool100 Posted :

people were bad, therefore jesus died to save our souls? or something. why would somebody have to die to save our souls. why would our souls be saved because he died. And because jesus died for our sins, doesn't that mean we can keep on sinning away and just proclaim that he still died for us. this whole concept is stupid and makes no sense.

You have failed.

Read the bible and let the sense making begin.
P.S. the concept is not stupid and it makes perfect sense.

At 8/17/06 08:50 PM, Zacispere wrote: at 8/17/06 07:25 PM Toocool100 Posted :

You have failed.

Read the bible and let the sense making begin.
P.S. the concept is not stupid and it makes perfect sense.

if the bible makes sense to you, you must be living in fantasy land

At 8/17/06 08:46 PM, arab_freak wrote:

At 8/17/06 08:45 PM, Toocool100 wrote:

Guess so. I suggest you look at Islam.

Yeah, but Islam's view kinda takes out the worry that if you fuck up life here, your going to be fucked up down there for eternity.

"thank God I am an atheist!"

One atheist at my school said that one day. Pitty.

At 8/17/06 07:25 PM, Toocool100 wrote: "jesus died for our sins"

what the hell does that even mean anyway?

It's pretty simple there, tits.

people were bad, therefore jesus died to save our souls? or something. why would somebody have to die to save our souls.

You know, back in the days when they'd have to sacrifice like a goat or pig for their sins? Same thing, larger scale.

And because jesus died for our sins, doesn't that mean we can keep on sinning away and just proclaim that he still died for us.

Uh, yes. Anyone who is actually part of a (real) religion would know that.

this whole concept is stupid and makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense. Since you're obviously inept and can't figure out the whole sacrifice thing, let me put itnto terms you may understand: money. Everytime you sin, lets say, you have to give some dude a dollar. What Jesus did was he paid us all off for an entire life of sins. That doesn't mean you should just sin freely and without regret. You should still apologize (or thank him, in terms of the metaphor) for 'paying it off.'

At 8/17/06 08:45 PM, Toocool100 wrote: if thats true thats completly unfair, its not somebodies fault if they can't get into heaven just because they were born during a certain time period unless they are practically a saint. Complete bullshit

There are a lot of things not fair in the world that still work the way they do. You only asked for someone to make sense out of it, not for you to like it.

What's a real bitch though is that even though the church might deny it, it was proven that Jesus if he was real used pagan beleifs and ceremonies to prove he was the son of God. So since thats the case the church can suck the balls of every other religuous figure for backing themselfs into that corner. And before it comes up I am not an Atheist I'm a Budist.

I don't know if anybodies said this so I say it anyway. Jesus died on the cross because no man can make it in heaven by following the 10 comandments. Everybody sins it's impossible not to. Before Jesus people made it in to heaven by beleiving that the messaha (Jesus) would one day come. So since it's impossible not to sin God sent his only son to die on the cross for us. What you have to do know is say I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins. Living by Gods word after saying that is so you can find gaidence from the lord and live a good life.

At 8/17/06 08:59 PM, Nucksta wrote: What's a real bitch though is that even though the church might deny it, it was proven that Jesus if he was real used pagan beleifs and ceremonies to prove he was the son of God. So since thats the case the church can suck the balls of every other religuous figure for backing themselfs into that corner. And before it comes up I am not an Atheist I'm a Budist.

Yes because water to wine, and feeding a lot of people on a little bit of bread and fish rank right up there with sacrificing cows to Zeus.

At 8/17/06 09:01 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 8/17/06 08:59 PM, Nucksta wrote: What's a real bitch though is that even though the church might deny it, it was proven that Jesus if he was real used pagan beleifs and ceremonies to prove he was the son of God. So since thats the case the church can suck the balls of every other religuous figure for backing themselfs into that corner. And before it comes up I am not an Atheist I'm a Budist.

Yes because water to wine, and feeding a lot of people on a little bit of bread and fish rank right up there with sacrificing cows to Zeus.

Where the fuck did you get sacraficing cows to Zeus from my statement. Just for your information there is more than one type of Paginism and very few if any involve the sacrafice of animals OR people don't beleive everything you see or read fucktard. When I say he used pagan beleifs and ceremonies look at the evidence, Jesus was intuned with nature and used it at least once in one of the stories of his life to heal someone. Guess who started using herbs and what you can get straight from your backyard as medicin the Pagans. Retarded fuck do reaserch before posting somthing like that.

At 8/17/06 08:51 PM, Toocool100 wrote: if the bible makes sense to you, you must be living in fantasy land

What is your problem anyways?

At 8/17/06 08:45 PM, Toocool100 wrote: if thats true thats completly unfair, its not somebodies fault if they can't get into heaven just because they were born during a certain time period unless they are practically a saint. Complete bullshit

What he said was completely false. The Bible does not define any specific criteria for getting into Heaven before Jesus's death. However, it was basically understood that if you had faith in God and genuinely wanted to do His will, then you would go to Heaven.

At 8/17/06 09:29 PM, TailsPrower wrote:

At 8/17/06 08:51 PM, Toocool100 wrote: if the bible makes sense to you, you must be living in fantasy land

What is your problem anyways?

He isn't mature enough to understand religion.

At 8/17/06 07:28 PM, FeargusMcDuff wrote: What I don't get Is people still say "Jesus died for our sins" but that was 2000 years ago. He died for their sins. And If not, then I can sin all I want because Jesus died for my sins. Which Is right?

well, ya but you need to confess jesus died for you and your sins to get into heaven, so sin your ass of

At 8/17/06 07:29 PM, Maus wrote: It's something people have argued about for close to 2000 years. Don't expect groundbreaking insight from the average NG user.

seconded, although Jesus was the only perfect human being and had no sin so he was the only oen pure enough to take the burden. I lolled at the name of this thread.
Jesus pwns joo. (heh heh joo)

At 8/17/06 07:25 PM, Toocool100 wrote: "jesus died for our sins"

what the hell does that even mean anyway?

people were bad, therefore jesus died to save our souls? or something. why would somebody have to die to save our souls. why would our souls be saved because he died. And because jesus died for our sins, doesn't that mean we can keep on sinning away and just proclaim that he still died for us. this whole concept is stupid and makes no sense.

i think it was to send a message, ya know how everyone knows hendrix cause hes dead? ya i think its close to the same thing, so people listened to his messages more

At 8/17/06 10:29 PM, theGodlyOne wrote:

At 8/17/06 07:25 PM, Toocool100 wrote:

i think it was to send a message, ya know how everyone knows hendrix cause hes dead? ya i think its close to the same thing, so people listened to his messages more

Words can not explain how...no I'm not even gonna say it. You're an idiot.

did you hear jeuse is a negro

(no im not tring to be racists)

At 8/17/06 07:28 PM, FeargusMcDuff wrote: What I don't get Is people still say "Jesus died for our sins" but that was 2000 years ago. He died for their sins. And If not, then I can sin all I want because Jesus died for my sins. Which Is right?

DUDE he died for the sins youve made, he didn't die for the sins you will commit......

Matters.

If your were a good jew, then when Jesus decended into hell, he took them up with him.

If you were a good heathen, you stayed in Limbo.

WTF?

He got murderdered and then we came up with that phrase later..

They have stupid bulletins all over myspace saying that stuff and if you don't repost you deny jesus

WTF

dude

religions only screws your life.......

if you want to belive in somethin that you literally gave your life for it, fine,
just dont say i didn't warn you

sometimes I feel like some people do the whole anti-christian/athiest thing because they think it's cool.

just a thought.