Did Korn sell out

[vannila-guerilla]

Look, as of late, my friends have been saying they like Korn, just not their new stuff, because they've sold out. I personally, Don't think tey have. They have been experimenting on new sounds in their music since day 1, so how come this one makes them sell-outs?

[tehNGpro]

Who cares? If it's good, I listen to it. No matter what other people think.

[Yoyodog76]

Korn is horrible band, They play excellently, yes. But there lyrics are Evil. I've got some in a magazine somewhere, but I don't feel like searching.

[MsiUrine]

Korn Has sold out since, like, ever. Deal with it.

[Zerok]

Understand that money rules the world, yo.

[AlD-Jaganshi]

At 8/16/06 11:17 PM, MsiUrine wrote: Korn Has sold out since, like, ever. Deal with it.

I agree, Korn sold out a helluva long time ago.

If you want REAL death metal, look up Amon Amarth

[vannila-guerilla]

At 8/16/06 11:19 PM, AlD-Jaganshi wrote:

At 8/16/06 11:17 PM, MsiUrine wrote: Korn Has sold out since, like, ever. Deal with it.

I agree, Korn sold out a helluva long time ago.

If you want REAL death metal, look up Amon Amarth

but Korn ain't death metal

[Taime]

Well if you like Korn that should be what matters to you and not the views of others, as many people have different views on everything and not will think the same about a subject.

[LtColonelArcher]

Welcome to like 6 years ago.

[Trick]

There song comming undone is good, also the song they made with DFB (comming undone wit it.)

[Desentil]

I don't see why people care about sell-outs. People are in the music industry to make music, but also money. If you like them, don't complain about them being sell-outs.

[The-Wrathchild]

Follow the leader was there best album. After See you on the other side, all went to hell.

[NudistBuddhist]

At 8/16/06 11:23 PM, -Broken_souls- wrote: I don't see why people care about sell-outs. People are in the music industry to make music, but also money. If you like them, don't complain about them being sell-outs.

Because people in the music industry should care about what their fanbase wants. Making money is fine, but I can gurantee you that Metallica would've made more money had they kept doing thrash metal and not gone nuts on Napster. But that's a different story.

[RyanAn]

After a Cubs game early in the season, Jonathan Davis was outside throughing out $10 bills and tickets to the show...

I've never been a big fan of the band itself, it's politics, or it's actions towards members who want to leave.

The "Freak on a Leash" video is awesome.

Basically, when you sign a contract, you are selling out and potentially comprimising yourself and your music.

]ry

[TropicalParadise]

'Selling out' is such a funny and indecisive term.

None of us are in the position to call them sell outs, we don't know half of what goes on in studios and in fancy music executive's offices.

And really, what would you do,

"Hello, here is a contract for $x million, but we get to have a say in what you do!"
"No thank you, I prefer to struggle through life with no real intention of taking the next step in my music career"

Because that's what the music industry is, it's a JOB, it's a CAREER, yes, the musicians must have talent and a love of music, but it's still a career, and in a career you accept promotions. You would be foolish not to.

Money DOES make the world go round.

And just because a band gets BIG and in demand does not mean they have sacrificed what got them this far and instead have given up all individuality. People say this about the new AFI, and even so far as A7x. Stupid music critics who have no idea what is really going on.

Also, to pertain something useful to the question posed in the topic, See You on the Other Side was GOOD, not like their usual stuff but it was still a good album that I actually physically bought. I wouldn't say they sold out, they were just trying something new, and hey it worked.

[DaRk]

Meh, they did and they didn't, it's weird and hard to tell.

[Miss-Mastix]

I cant stand people who judge music (or anything) by the category its in, so what if they're sell outs? Listen to what you enjoy listening to, dont sit there thinking 'oh I wish I could like this but I cant because they're sell outs' -_-

[BigBlueBalls]

At 8/16/06 11:10 PM, vannila_guerilla wrote: Look, as of late, my friends have been saying they like Korn, just not their new stuff, because they've sold out. I personally, Don't think tey have. They have been experimenting on new sounds in their music since day 1, so how come this one makes them sell-outs?

Reminds me of a song by Tool called Hooker with a Penis. The moral to it is that EVERYONE in the music industry sold out long before you heard them.

I, met a boy, wearing Van, 501s,
and a dope Beastie T, nipple rings, new tattoos
and claimed that he was O.G. T,
back in'92, from the first EP.

And in between sips of Coke
He told me that he thought
we were sellin' out, layin' down,
Suckin' up to the man.

Well now I've got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that I'm the man,

And if I'm the man,
Then you're the man, and
He's the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what I've sold you, dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever even heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record, dip shit,
And then you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty... dollar

Shut up and
Buy my new record
Send more money and
Fuck you, buddy!

[TrunkMarshmallow]

Korn sucks.

I mean, it's ok to listen to it as an introductory phase to that genre, but you should move along soon enough to better things in that genre. Or just, take the introductory phase and decide you don't like the genre.

[Erathun]

YES.

[MisterSambert]

People say that for every band. Believe it or not, for every band, there is a group of morons who say they only like the old stuff to feel cool and "fit in" with each other.

My thoughts? Don't give a crap what other people say.

[vannila-guerilla]

At 8/17/06 12:40 AM, TrunkMarshmallow wrote: Korn sucks.

I mean, it's ok to listen to it as an introductory phase to that genre, but you should move along soon enough to better things in that genre. Or just, take the introductory phase and decide you don't like the genre.

How is Korn an "introductry phase" band? I've been listening to them since 1994, and I was already listening to metal

[The-answer-AI]

Shut the fuck up about selling out. What the fuck should you care if they go mainstream and they have alot of fans. Boo hoo your no longer unique and cant brag that you know real bands. Because now Korns mainstream. I dont give a shit about mainstream. If its good, I listen to it. Simple as that. No bullshit strings attached

[ChelSmith18]

At 8/16/06 11:10 PM, vannila_guerilla wrote: Look, as of late, my friends have been saying they like Korn, just not their new stuff, because they've sold out. I personally, Don't think tey have. They have been experimenting on new sounds in their music since day 1, so how come this one makes them sell-outs?

i dont think they have either.in fact i just got done listening to them.

[RobbyBlaze]

At 8/16/06 11:13 PM, tehNGpro wrote: Who cares? If it's good, I listen to it. No matter what other people think.

THANK YOU! What is it with all you motherfuckers who refuse to like a band's music just because they "sold out", what fucking difference does it make to you? Their music gets no shittier just because they make more money. Fuck you all who think like that.

[BigBlueBalls]

At 8/17/06 12:47 AM, vannila_guerilla wrote: How is Korn an "introductry phase" band? I've been listening to them since 1994, and I was already listening to metal

Age: 17

You were listening to them since you were 5? You musta had some cool parents who played the nursery rhymes from Shoots And Ladders every night before you went to sleep :P

[vannila-guerilla]

Age: 17

You were listening to them since you were 5? You musta had some cool parents who played the nursery rhymes from Shoots And Ladders every night before you went to sleep :P

If you were being a smartass, i actually did listen to them since they came out, cause my parents were metalheads at the time.

[CardinalFang]

Many people think that when a band tries something new or changes their sound, then that band has sold out. Music styles change with the times. Music is art. Just sit back and enjoy it.

[Jesus-Christ]

Same exact thing I was thinking about a while ago. What I've come to understand is that it is good for bands to experiement like Korn. Too much of a good thing is bad. And think about it, Life is Peachy and Untouchables were both a little different, but the albums that came after were kickass.

[Blam-Master2]

I like Korn. They're the reason I got into metal. I remember hearing 'Here To Stay' in 2003 on the radio, and that started it all. But unfortunately, they frequently collaborate with rap artists such as Ice Cube, Nas, and most recently and worst of all, Dem Franchise Boys. I call that selling out, and I cannot respect them as much as other metal/rock artists because of this.

Rammstein rules, by the way.