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At 8/16/06 11:58 PM, abacacus wrote: will this site ever not be racist someway or another?

Doubt it. Society will probably never abondon racism either.
In my opinion, this thread's just deadspace on the political forums.

Let’s look at the facts:
1. Most Asian and African countries were pillaged by Europe and never got paid back so they has to take a loan and are now in debt because we stole from them.
2. India and China are on the rise why America if anything is decreasing. In future years China will be the richest country in the world and later India will be. SO by then that would mean Asians should rule the world.

You see it’s not race that makes a country rich, it’s the past.

At 8/16/06 08:16 PM, Transkar wrote: Sorry to say it guys. I love all races....but look at the white countries. They are all running nicely and are rich. Now lets look at Africa and South America. Apart from Brazil, most of the countries here are poor. Same thing with Asia. Now lets look at the white runned countries in Europe and America. Most of them are the best runned countries in the world. Sorry guys, but its just the truth.

You racist dipshit, are you insane? Just look at George W. Bush, Hitler, Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, they are all white and they are all lunatics. I am ashamed to even witness this eructation of naivety and idiocy. In a supposedly enlightened age as this how could you be so biggoted and prejudice? I mean what is your definition of white? superior? It is facists like you that spawn dictators and wars, and people like you that caused the Holocaust and World War 2, and I loathe you for it.

At 8/16/06 08:32 PM, mrshizel wrote:

At 8/16/06 08:24 PM, Transkar wrote:

At 8/16/06 08:22 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Funny because most of Eastern Europe is a shithole.

Then whats Africa and Asia?

actually israel has one of the most powerfull armies in the world

This is true, i'm glad one person on this forum supports Israel.

At 8/17/06 03:24 PM, digitalboola wrote: OMG I STATED THAT WHITES JUST HAPPUN 2 BETTUR @ RUNNIN CUNTRIES SO I MUST BE RACIST

Right?

No he stating because there white there better at running Countries. Let's have a look at Hitler shall we? And if any reason why the Africans and Asian are poor is because their not evil enough! Europe stole from Asia and Africa then made it have to take a loan and then made them pay it back!!! There paying for what we stole!

I think jews should rule the world

They got superpowers

At 8/17/06 02:54 PM, Hydra9 wrote: Let’s look at the facts:
1. Most Asian and African countries were pillaged by Europe and never got paid back so they has to take a loan and are now in debt because we stole from them.

Yes, but why were Europeans the ones to pillage Asia and Africa, not the other way around? Read my earlier post.

Most major world cities are located within a narrow space between 35 and 50 degrees North latitute. Why?

This area has the best combination of sunlight, temperature, elevation, and rainfall needed to produce healthy, nutritious, and diverse plants. In turn, bigger and stronger animals arise that can be eaten or demosticated. Thus, this area can sustain organized, sedetary human life - civilization. The societies expand from tribes to nations to empires on the ready food supply and stable climate conditions. This alows them to organize into strong economic, military, and technological powers.

It just so happens that this 20 degree margin recieves an amount of sunlight that does not require a large amount of melanin skin pigment. Thus the inhabitents evolve with less of it than, say, Africans, and appear to have whitish skin. As you can see white nations are powerful because the climate condusive to civilization neccessitates lighter skin pigmentation.

2. India and China are on the rise why America if anything is decreasing. In future years China will be the richest country in the world and later India will be. SO by then that would mean Asians should rule the world.

You see it’s not race that makes a country rich, it’s the past.

The past is governed by its characteristics, characteristics that support the evolution of whit skin.

At 8/17/06 03:17 PM, G-Locked wrote:

At 8/16/06 08:16 PM, Transkar wrote:

You racist dipshit, are you insane? Just look at George W. Bush, Hitler, Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, they are all white and they are all lunatics.

Look at Osama Bin Ladin (Al-Queda), Saddam Husein (Iraq), Mamud Amahadmujad (Iran), King Abdullah (Saudi Arabia), and Yasser Arrafat (PLO).

Look at Hu Jintao (China), Kim Jon-Il (North Korea), Islam Karimov (Uzbekistan), Saparmurat Niyazov (Turkmenistan), and Than Shwe (Burma).

Lokk at Omar al-Bashir (Sudan) and Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe).

Look at Teodoro Obiang Nguema (Equatorial Guinea)

Not a single one of these people are white.

At 8/16/06 11:02 PM, Sinthe wrote: You're going on about white superiority, but you just said "...best runned countries..." Oooook.

Here's the thing: Most to all of South America, Asia, and Africa (there isn't a bit of land in Africa that wasn't once colonized by some European country) were colonized and pretty much destroyed (for the natives, anyway). These people live in abject poverty because of how they were when Europe left... and they're still being exploited for what little they have. Having another nation come in and build up the place for their benefit and your... not benefit (diction fails me, sorry) is going to lead to a pretty fucked up country, because then they don't really have to means to properly sustain themselves. You can't eat cotton, now can you?

I've gotta agree with you... The white people are not really the best ruling race... the reason why their so powerful is because of their idea of expansionism. look at the foundation of the Americas... The natives there were living their quiet lives there and then suddenly, "poof" there goes the white men coming to claim all the land as theirs... because of this, Europeans have enough resources to exploit in order to build up their countries to the most advanced race... if the white people didn't try to exploit the wealth of every part of the world, they wouldn't be the best "ruling" race... Another example is during the Opium war in China where the European alliance just went into china and tried to claim as much resources as possible. And also by exploiting the chinese workers to do their bidding (such as the building of the trans-canada railway). without those worker's help... Europe and the Americas wouldn't be able to enjoy what present-day has to offer. White people are not seriously not the best ruling race, there are many historical factors that contributed to the power that the white people enjoys today... At a great cost of the welfare of other nation and their people...
there goes my ranting for the day XD

At 8/16/06 09:55 PM, Goliath- wrote: Except the Asians are smarter.
Join them with a Jew and you have yourself a world leader.

You got your stereotypes botched. It's asians are good at math while jews are good with money.

At 8/16/06 08:16 PM, Transkar wrote: Sorry to say it guys. I love all races....but look at the white countries. They are all running nicely and are rich. Now lets look at Africa and South America. Apart from Brazil, most of the countries here are poor. Same thing with Asia. Now lets look at the white runned countries in Europe and America. Most of them are the best runned countries in the world. Sorry guys, but its just the truth.

That's ridiculous. The only reason that primarily white countries are rich is because they're ruthless imperialists who suck the money out of other countries.

Also, white countries can be poor too. Look at Ireland and Eastern Europe for example.

I can't believe that you are still stupid and childish enough to think that some races are naturally smarter and more capable than other races.

Grow up.

At 8/16/06 08:16 PM, Transkar wrote: Sorry to say it guys. I love all races....but look at the white countries. They are all running nicely and are rich. Now lets look at Africa and South America. Apart from Brazil, most of the countries here are poor. Same thing with Asia. Now lets look at the white runned countries in Europe and America. Most of them are the best runned countries in the world. Sorry guys, but its just the truth.

Hitler was white. Are you saying that all world leaders nead to be like Hitler? And a lot Europe isn't that great of time ether.

At 8/16/06 09:54 PM, FightingForFreedom wrote: The reason why "whites run the world" is geographical and antropological.

Most major world cities are located within a narrow space between 35 and 50 degrees North latitute. Why?

This area has the best combination of sunlight, temperature, elevation, and rainfall needed to produce healthy, nutritious, and diverse plants. In turn, bigger and stronger animals arise that can be eaten or demosticated. Thus, this area can sustain organized, sedetary human life - civilization. The societies expand from tribes to nations to empires on the ready food supply and stable climate conditions. This alows them to organize into strong economic, military, and technological powers.

It just so happens that this 20 degree margin recieves an amount of sunlight that does not require a large amount of melanin skin pigment. Thus the inhabitents evolve with less of it than, say, Africans, and appear to have whitish skin.

As you can see white nations are powerful because the climate condusive to civilization neccessitates lighter skin pigmentation. Below is a chart of major cities along that 20 degree area.

Personaly, I cant agree. Why is it that no advanced civilisation had developed in Argentina? And shouldnt people in south Africa rule the world? Also, why is that:
1, Civilisation devolped below this line in egypt, the ganges valley and Iraq all independently?
2. The most advanced civilisation(the muslim world, India, almost all of ancient China) were so much more advanced than the European civilisations for so many hundreads of years?

Climate was a factor but many other places outside of the north have equally good(if not better) clmates and so were equally as prosperous if not more so, but one thing you didnt mention was the fact that many of the places on your map have massive coastlines. Sea travel was much more important, in my opinion, for making the west rulers of the world, if it were not for that they would not be able to establish empires outside of europe(bringing in more money for them) or establised good lines of communication so that important developments could be shared around the continent.
The invention of the caravel was one of the most important things for europe because it allowed them to travel much faster and also allows them to withstand more punisment from the sea.
Another factor was the arrogence of the countries that were also civilised, only the muslim world was really exploring outside its area, China and India had the means to do what the west was doing but felt as though they had no need to, as far as they were concerned they were they centre of world civilisation and had no need to waste time in such pointless ventures. The europeans just got there first and reaped the rewards.

At 8/17/06 05:09 PM, metalhead0001 wrote: Hitler was white. Are you saying that all world leaders nead to be like Hitler? And a lot Europe isn't that great of time ether.

The reason both those things are shit is because they followed or still do follow socialism. Not because of the race they were born in.

At 8/17/06 05:02 PM, bradford1 wrote:

That's ridiculous. The only reason that primarily white countries are rich is because they're ruthless imperialists who suck the money out of other countries.

Also, white countries can be poor too. Look at Ireland and Eastern Europe for example.

What?! How dare you! We are one of the wealtiest, fattest countries in the world thank you!

At 8/17/06 05:17 PM, White_hole wrote: What?! How dare you! We are one of the wealtiest, fattest countries in the world thank you!

I think he meant compared to some of the other heavy hitter nations you seem poor.

At 8/17/06 05:21 PM, Pwnage_In_A_Can wrote:

At 8/17/06 05:17 PM, White_hole wrote: What?! How dare you! We are one of the wealtiest, fattest countries in the world thank you!

I think he meant compared to some of the other heavy hitter nations you seem poor.

Well then so is Belgium, the netherlands,Austria and switzerland.

At 8/17/06 05:32 PM, White_hole wrote:

At 8/17/06 05:21 PM, Pwnage_In_A_Can wrote:

At 8/17/06 05:17 PM, White_hole wrote:

Well then so is Belgium, the netherlands,Austria and switzerland.

Belguim got's world class beer.

The Netherlands got Amerstam.

Switzerland has chocalate.

And Austria has Vienna.

At 8/17/06 05:33 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Well then so is Belgium, the netherlands,Austria and switzerland.

Belguim got's world class beer.

The Netherlands got Amerstam.

Switzerland has chocalate.

And Austria has Vienna.

Wow, that makes them real heavy hitter naations doesnt it?

Yes, it does mean you are racist if you say that whites are better at running countries, retard. Africa and Asia are poor because they were and are being kept down for centuries by the west and Japan, who have become wealthy because of the poor countries' natural resources. Who's a better leader? Adolf Hitler or Nelson Mandela?

At 8/17/06 05:17 PM, White_hole wrote:

At 8/17/06 05:02 PM, bradford1 wrote:

That's ridiculous. The only reason that primarily white countries are rich is because they're ruthless imperialists who suck the money out of other countries.

Also, white countries can be poor too. Look at Ireland and Eastern Europe for example.

What?! How dare you! We are one of the wealtiest, fattest countries in the world thank you!

I think he meant Northern Ireland. They are pretty poor up there. The nation of Ireland is just as wealthy as any other western country.

At 8/17/06 05:47 PM, wormyguy wrote: Yes, it does mean you are racist if you say that whites are better at running countries, retard. Africa and Asia are poor because they were and are being kept down for centuries by the west and Japan, who have become wealthy because of the poor countries' natural resources. Who's a better leader? Adolf Hitler or Nelson Mandela?

Do people really have to bring up past leaders? Every race, doesn't matte which, has fucking crazy people in it. End of story.

Also, you talk of exploiting other countries. Does being pansies and holding hands equal strong government or does opening a can of whoop ass on other countries? BTW, I am basing power=land and money.

At 8/17/06 06:22 PM, digitalboola wrote:

At 8/17/06 04:13 PM, FightingForFreedom wrote: Not a single one of these people are white.

Let's play Devil's Advocate here.

Look at Hitler, Stalin, Milosevic, Mussolini, Ceauºescu, etc.

Hmm, perhaps he was talking about the people he listed, its a faint possibleity but there is an extremly small chance that he was.
Nah it couldnt be, scratch that.

At 8/17/06 05:47 PM, wormyguy wrote:

:Adolf Hitler or Nelson Mandela?

No offense, but that's a poor argument. Hitler was an extreme case. You can't just take one bad persond from one race and one good person from another and use that as an argument.
I do disagree with the statement that whites are better at leading countries, but that comparison just won't cut it.

Also, when you think about it. Hitler was a powerfull leader. Don't get me wrong, he did many terrible things and had some very bad views on the world, but that makes him a bad person. As a leader he was able to rally the Germans and pull their economy out of the poor state it had been in after WWI.

At 8/17/06 05:02 PM, bradford1 wrote:

At 8/16/06 08:16 PM, Transkar wrote:

Also, white countries can be poor too. Look at Ireland and Eastern Europe for example.

here, hold on a second. ireland isnt poor! its a first world country like the rest of europe. the only reason it isnt as rich as the rest of central europe is because england had complete control over the country for 500 years and stopped its economic growth.

but either way we are by no means as poor as most african or asian countrys. which, by the way has nothing to do with the colour of our skin.

just look at nelson mandela, muhatama ghandi (excuse my spelling), martin luther king,che guevara and other non-caucasian leaders.(i do realise that 3 of these were not world leaders, but they could be!)

Also, another reason why european countries have such powerful nations is that the industrial revolution was centered around england and then later the rest of europe and N.america.
This led to the printing press which allowed information and ideas to travel between people faster through books and newspaper which means the nation is smarter.

this means that the advancement of the nation is faster and allows ideas such as electricity, the lightbulb, the locomotive, the television, the radio, the personal computer, the micro-chip, the internet,etc. which all provide information to be sent to one and other and the sharing of ideas to be done even faster. and so the nation advances more.

while all of this is happening the white countries are expanding empires throughout asia and africa. and taking advantage of there natural resources. without the resources they cant create a working economy and so arent as well off as the white countries.
even after the empires collapse and the occupation is over the damage is done and are still to this day taking advantage of them.

At 8/17/06 05:36 PM, White_hole wrote:

At 8/17/06 05:33 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Wow, that makes them real heavy hitter naations doesnt it?

In my mind, yes.

Cultural is very important to me.

And so is beer.

I'd hate to say it but Hitler had one of the most efficent and best run countries ever.

And to compare Hitler and Bush is a little extreme, though i will give you the raping of asia and africa, and now moving onto the middle east. And South America being all tribal? Don't think so, most countries are developed and functional there. I'm not saying theres no tribal regions there but not all tribal. Also Africa is split into too many factions fighting over the reasources they have to acually make use of any of them.

But on topic, the white race may run some of the most developed and efficent countries in the world, but you gotta look at other countries too. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, India, China, Japan, and South Africa all are quiet developed and functional and countributing to the global economy. So no, whites are not the best to run a country, the people are the best to run a country. As long as the country isn't America, cause them bitches are stoopid.

Just kidding of course, but seriously, we're stuipid.

At 8/16/06 11:49 PM, TheSovereign wrote: Look at Russia!

U G H !! ...I T ' S ..B L 1 N D I N G ... /\/\ E !!

I think it is true that the white nations of the earth are more efficient, more prosperous and just better off overall.

People will claim that European colonization was the cause of the poverty in dark-skinned populated countries.

This isn't true because actually all the successful non-white countries in the world were either once colonized by white countries, or were once defeated militarily by white countries and then later assimilated into the market ran by white countries

1. Japan is the worlds leader in technology today because after WWII the US rebuilt their country and brought US investors to the country and large amounts of money came to Japan. Today roughly 80% of Japanese economy revolves around trade with the US!

2. China, was once colonized by European countries. Almost all the money that China gets today comes from trade with white countries (mostly the US). If it werent for the US need for large amounts of cheap products, China's economy would almost be nonexistent. But to this day 80% of chinese people live in poverty. They have all this money but they still aren't smart enough to use it to feed their own people.

3. India, was colonized by Britain. Britain left and for years India was crap. Now Indias economy revolves around trade with white countries.

4. Brazil, once was a Portuguese colony. Now its economy revolves around trade with white countries.

5. Taiwan, was run by CHina for a long time and was poverty stricken. Taiwan becomes semi-independent from CHina, becomes democratic by pretty much duplicating US froms of government. Now Taiwan is an incredibly successful country whose economy revolves around TRADE WITH THE US.

It seems that all the countries in the world populated by non-whites - who HAVEN'T been colonized by whites, or who DON'T receive large amounts of investment from white countries - are all pretty much the asshole of the earth in these days.

At 8/16/06 08:24 PM, Transkar wrote:

At 8/16/06 08:22 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Funny because most of Eastern Europe is a shithole.

Then whats Africa and Asia?

You're denying that Eastern Europe isn't fucked up albiet White countries?
LoL...